Public unions getting nervous too

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non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Dec 6, 2012
RI House speaker opposes governor's call to negotiate with unions over pension lawsuit
By David Klepper, Associated Press | Associated Press 11 hours ago..

PROVIDENCE, R.I.(AP)-- A top state lawmaker joined the treasurer on Wednesday in opposing Gov. Lincoln Chafee's call for negotiations with labor unions seeking to overturn sweeping changes to the state's retirement system.

House Speaker Gordon Fox said it wouldn't be appropriate for him to negotiate legislation that's already been signed into law, and he said the unions' legal challenge to the pension overhaul will be decided by the courts. Fox's opposition to changing the law could hamper Chafee's desire to hammer out a deal with unions, as any compromise would have to be approved by the General Assembly.

"The time to negotiate was during the 30 hours of public hearings that were conducted by the legislature," said Fox, D-Providence. "We always anticipated that there would be a legal challenge to this."

Chafee, an independent, has said he wants to pursue settlement talks to end the closely watched and high-stakes legal fight over the 2011 pension law, which raised retirement ages, suspended pension increases and altered benefits for thousands of retired and active teachers and government workers.

The changes were designed to save an estimated $4 billion over the next 20 years.

Chafee was in Washington on Wednesday attending a National Governors Association meeting, but he issued a statement saying that while he has confidence in the state's case, the outcome is uncertain. He said it's "prudent" to consider a settlement while the lawsuit goes forward. He said he is disappointed that other state leaders oppose settlement talks.

"Some have said that now is not the time for negotiation," Chafee said. "I disagree. The state has leverage only so long as there is still uncertainty as to the outcome of this case."

Chafee met Tuesday with Bob Walsh, executive director of the National Education Association Rhode Island, and George Nee, president of the AFL-CIO. Walsh said specifics weren't discussed but Chafee expressed interest in striking a compromise.

"We're right where we want to be with the governor," Walsh said of the hour-long discussion. "It was a good first date."

Walsh said he's hopeful lawmakers could take up changes to the law after they convene in January.

Treasurer Gina Raimondo on Wednesday stressed that lawmakers passed the law overwhelmingly following months of public hearings that included input from public workers and retirees. Raimondo, a Democrat and the main architect of the pension law, said the state owes it to taxpayers to let the judicial process continue.

"It is not the time for closed-door meetings," Raimondo said in a statement. "This is not a time for politics.... It's now the job of the judicial branch to evaluate the legislation passed by the General Assembly, and we should let it do its work."

An influential business-backed organization, EngageRI, created to lobby for the pension law, also weighed in on Wednesday, saying in a statement that its members were "saddened" to hear Chafee was willing to negotiate the law.

A hearing on the state's motion to dismiss the unions' legal challenge is scheduled for Friday.


Nice, finally a state where the Democrats are behaving like grownups.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
If they signed contracts, the courts will uphold them. Poor child, grown ups don't lie, like yous did ~!
Yeah, like Michigan will never be a right to work state.
Public Servant

Grantsburg, WI

#4 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
If they signed contracts, the courts will uphold them. Poor child, grown ups don't lie, like yous did ~!
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Seattle West Insane Asylum
Public Servant

Grantsburg, WI

#6 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
How'd that governor "work" for all the money you wasted ?? LMAOROTFU~!
Patient # 2376,

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4th Floor, Dangerous Psychotics Unit
Seattle West Insane Asylum
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
How'd that governor "work" for all the money you wasted ?? LMAOROTFU~!
The money wasted was by all the recall proponents in Wisconsin. After all the pretensions, the legislature is back at its pre-recall makeup, and the governor is still sitting in his office. Any money spent on Walker and the Republican legislature was well spent, just look at the state's budget surplus.
Public Servant

Grantsburg, WI

#9 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
Just look at the court's block of the anti-union measures... Poor child, you're a moron...
Patient # 2376,

You now have 5 Minutes to get in line for your Thorazine Injections. Failure to do so will result in restraints being used on you again today.

This is your last warning.

Signed,

The Womyn in the White Suits
4th Floor, Dangerous Psychotics Unit
Seattle West Insane Asylum
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
Just look at the court's block of the anti-union measures... Poor child, you're a moron...
That block is called an injunction, the final say is yet to be had.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>So, you wasted the money, sonny... LMAOROTFU~!
Walker = Budget surplus in Wisconsin. No money wasted there.
Seattle PD

Grantsburg, WI

#14 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>So, you wasted the money, sonny... LMAOROTFU~!
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This freak is known to frequent the Local Gay Bars, and the City Parks.....Arm yourselves and be on High Alert!
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>So, you wasted the money, sonny... LMAOROTFU~!
Too bad the dems wasted all their money on recall elections, if they had spent it in the general election, maybe they could have won a few more seats in the legislature.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#17 Dec 6, 2012
If ??? LMAOROTFU~! Son, which party spent more for no return, is the question you're looking for... Ps- Ask a chair for HELP !
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Dec 6, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
If ??? LMAOROTFU~! Son, which party spent more for no return, is the question you're looking for... Ps- Ask a chair for HELP !
In most cases, the chair's responses would be far superior to your own. Walker = Budget Surplus.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#19 Dec 7, 2012
Since we're not talking about budget surpluses, funny you cling to lowered costs, that simply kicked the can down the road.... I guess you can credit him with cost cutting, when you hired him to break unions and he failed...Nice consolation prize, guess the roads will suck til someone else fixes them... LMAOROTFU~!
Seattle PD

Grantsburg, WI

#20 Dec 7, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
Since we're not talking about budget surpluses, funny you cling to lowered costs, that simply kicked the can down the road.... I guess you can credit him with cost cutting, when you hired him to break unions and he failed...Nice consolation prize, guess the roads will suck til someone else fixes them... LMAOROTFU~!
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