Mpls residents successfully nix new streetlights

Posted in the Minneapolis Forum

DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#1 Jan 29, 2013
A group of South Minneapolis residents scored a victory at City Hall Tuesday by successfully fighting a proposal to charge them for new streetlights on Penn. Avenue.

The $600,000 plan to install new pedestrian streetlights as part of a broader reconstruction of Penn. Ave. between MN-62 and 54th Street raised the ire of neighbors who would have had to foot the bill through assessments.

Those residents brought their concerns to the city's transportation and public works committee meeting Tuesday, adding that the city was charging too much to redo the road.

The street repairs got the committee's approval, but council member Betsy Hodges led an effort to scuttle the streetlight project. Because of a 2009 streetlight policy, the city must include new lights in any street reconstruction project -- unless residents opt out.

The lantern-style lights proposed for Penn. were much shorter than traditional roadway lights so they provide visibility to pedestrians. The photo (at right) shows a lantern-style light on the left and a taller "shoebox" light on the right. The plan was to install both on Penn. Ave.

When the city mailed petition forms to local residents, only 69 percent said by October that they opposed the lights (just short of the 70 percent threshold). Non-respondents counted as "yes" vote. As of Jan. 18, however, 70.4 percent said they oppose them.

That was enough to convince the committee to kill the lights, the first time that has happened since the policy went into effect (four others successfuly went through).

"I want to thank the folks who not only are here today but who have organized over time," said Hodges, who represents the area. "It is one of the best examples I have of how well city process works."

Hodges introduced a motion, which passed, instructing city staff to review the petition portion of the streetlight policy, as well as the types of properties that can be assessed.

Residents will still have to pay up for the street repairs, which will cost $2.39 per square foot for non-residential properties and $.80 for residential properties.

One resident, John Rekstad, said that will cost him $8,000 for his house on Penn. Ave. Most of the frustration was directed at the petition process, however.

"That petition process, with the 70 percent threshold -- non-respondents counting as a yes vote -- doesn't sound like America to me," said Steve Binenstock
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DSM Loco

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jan 29, 2013
I'm obsessed with Ruskies. I live in the Cold War era. You might call it Alzheimer's, I call it reality today (well, if today is 1970, anyway). There are Ruskies in Minneapolis! The are Ruskies in Iowa! They are everywhere!

And I forgot that Russia isn't even a communist country any more.
Lawton

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Jan 29, 2013
Best way to deal with Socialists is to move to a solid RED state.
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#4 Jan 31, 2013
DSM Loco wrote:
I'm obsessed with Ruskies. I live in the Cold War era. You might call it Alzheimer's, I call it reality today (well, if today is 1970, anyway). There are Ruskies in Minneapolis! The are Ruskies in Iowa! They are everywhere!
And I forgot that Russia isn't even a communist country any more.
did you want to help pay for those fancy new lights then?
Amused Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Jan 31, 2013
Lawton wrote:
Best way to deal with Socialists is to move to a solid RED state.
No, no, no. The best way to deal with Socialists is to invite them to the dojo. My Slewsie will take them out back and teach them to beg for their lives. Nothing like a dojo to fix those slewpid non-conformists.
Ronald

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jan 31, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no, no. The best way to deal with Socialists is to invite them to the dojo. My Slewsie will take them out back and teach them to beg for their lives. Nothing like a dojo to fix those slewpid non-conformists.
Love it when by the people for the people really works.

Slewer is a sicko.
Maxamillion

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Feb 2, 2013
FREEDOM lives..
Iowan

West Des Moines, IA

#8 Feb 2, 2013
It's obvious a need was present, what a stupid part of minneapolis. I would have voted Yes! They should have no lights whatsoever until they vote 100% Yes.
Amused Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Feb 2, 2013
Iowan wrote:
It's obvious a need was present, what a stupid part of minneapolis. I would have voted Yes! They should have no lights whatsoever until they vote 100% Yes.
Obviously, this was a rich Republican neighborhood. Otherwise they would have welcomed the new lights with open arms. What's a few dollars out of those rich people's pockets? We should penalize them by charging them not to have the street lights now and then put the new lights in a poor neighborhood.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#10 Feb 2, 2013
You need help, badly.
Amused Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Feb 2, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
You need help, badly.
Watch out my Slewsie. You keep making your billions in the stock market and you will be one of those rich Rethuglicants. I want to you stay just the way you are.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#12 Feb 2, 2013
Poor old "man"..... cantgetitup or straighten up.
Amused Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Feb 2, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Poor old "man"..... cantgetitup or straighten up.
Can you say "Sugar Daddy"? Keep racking up those big gains on Wall Street my financial genius.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#14 Feb 2, 2013
I'm in the money and your nose is in my tail...
Amused Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Feb 2, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
I'm in the money and your nose is in my tail...
My gay Slewsie. The giant killer on Wall Street!
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#16 Feb 2, 2013
Poor cantgetipup, finally lost it, if you EVER had it... LMAOROTFU !

DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#17 Feb 3, 2013
Not sure this was the type of converstation I was hoping to spark by posting this story
CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#18 Feb 3, 2013
DSM Local wrote:
Not sure this was the type of converstation I was hoping to spark by posting this story
Jiggers don't need street lights. The bulb is way too small of a target for a Jigger to get off a successful shot. Give them night vision goggles. They will be more successful hunting each other.

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