Freedom or Security
1776 Defender

Ankeny, IA

#1 Jun 25, 2013

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

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#2 Jun 25, 2013
Very interesting link.
1776 Defender

Ankeny, IA

#3 Jun 25, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
Very interesting link.
Thanks, I don't go to the Jacksonville forum often... But I've found that the liberals there make an attempt to argue on what they believe to be facts more so than what passes for that here (redeemer) and they also don't have the oh so disruptive slew.....

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#5 Jun 25, 2013
Yes it is. I vote for freedom. But in the last election cycle, we were outvoted by the "protect us from everything" crowd.
1776 Defender

Ankeny, IA

#6 Jun 25, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
When you keep giving up freedom for security, you end up with neither.
You also have to realize the sheer incompetence of the government.... The nuts with the boston bombing where identified by private video from a citzen.... They got nadda from all the video they had, the police state lockdown failed only when a private citzen went outside and saw someone bleeding to death in his boat was he caught...Furthermore it's not the government's job to protect you from everything everytime, the only way they come anywhere near that goal is via infringing on your personal rights and liberties.
1776 Defender

Ankeny, IA

#7 Jun 25, 2013
"Governments are made to protect and maintain individual rights"

--Where is this:

declaration of independence & several state constitutions

---Therefore it is in direct contradiction to infringe on individual rights regardless the reasoning and takes away the basis for why said government exists in the first place. Of course no one seems to care anymore
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#9 Jun 25, 2013
Actually, it's really childish to pretend you're afraid of big brother, since a decent American has no criminal behavior to hide.

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