Democratic resistance to entitlement ...

Democratic resistance to entitlement cuts appears to grow

Posted in the Minneapolis Forum

Smart Liberal

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Nov 27, 2012
The cadre of Democrats fighting to keep Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid out of the mix in the lame-duck fiscal cliff artifice fight appears to be gaining in strength.

WASHINGTON — President Obama’s re-election and Democratic gains in Congress were supposed to make it easier for the party to strike a deal with Republicans to resolve the year-end fiscal crisis by providing new leverage. But they could also make it harder as empowered Democrats, including some elected on liberal platforms, resist significant changes in entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Two staunch liberals, Senators Tom Harkin of Iowa and John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia, said in a letter to Mr. Obama that he should “reject changes to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security that would cut benefits, shift costs to states, alter the structure of these critical programs, or force vulnerable populations to bear the burden of deficit reduction.”

More than 40 House members, led by the Congressional Progressive Caucus, declare in a resolution that any deal on taxes and spending “should not cut Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security benefits.”

The greatest indication that they're gaining steam comes from Sen. Dick Durbin, not known as a reliable ally in the fight to prevent benefit cuts to Social Security and Medicare, who is signaling in a speech on Tuesday what might be growing consensus among Democrats to leave entitlements off the table in the fiscal cliff curb talks.

“Progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of Medicare and Medicaid but those conversations should not be part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff,” Durbin says, according to excerpts provided by his office.

The Illinois Democrat reiterates the view of many in his party that Social Security isn’t a driver of the nation’s deficit. And he insisted that current beneficiaries be protected from changes to any program.

For Durbin, one of a handful of Democrats on the Simpson/Bowles Catfood Commission to support the report of the chairs, that's encouraging movement—he's arguing against a grand bargain being shoehorned into this lame-duck debt and deficit fight. Considering Durbin's close relationship with President Obama, this is even more reassuring, at least for the short term. But winning this short-term battle against austerity would be the first step in winning the war.
Amused Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Nov 27, 2012
Still looking for my Obamaphone. Has anyone seen it?
Bridgework

Olathe, KS

#3 Nov 27, 2012
"Democratic resistance to entitlement cuts appears to grow"

Is that actually news?

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#4 Nov 27, 2012
So, the Dems are going to take certain spending issues off the table and will scream bloody murder when the right takes certain tax cuts off the table. The true meaning of compromise - Thanks Sen Durbin,
Miss Piggy

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Nov 27, 2012
Social Security and Medicare are not entitlements, they were paid for out of every paycheck by the workers.
There are hundreds of overlapping programs that could be cut, which are outright freebies.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#7 Nov 27, 2012
Miss Piggy wrote:
Social Security and Medicare are not entitlements, they were paid for out of every paycheck by the workers.
There are hundreds of overlapping programs that could be cut, which are outright freebies.
On a freebie message board, right hypocrite ??? LMAOROTFU
Bridgework

Olathe, KS

#8 Nov 27, 2012
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>On a freebie message board, right hypocrite ??? LMAOROTFU
Is this paid by tax money, or is it a for profit service that is paid by advertisements?

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#9 Nov 27, 2012
Bridgework wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this paid by tax money, or is it a for profit service that is paid by advertisements?
Slammed!! Nice work Bridge!
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#11 Nov 27, 2012
Slammed by the Clucker crew, hardly... At least you still hump each other well, slutty trolls/neutered...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#12 Nov 27, 2012
From Chuck Shepherds News of the Weird:

Government in Action

-- Among the federally funded projects highlighted in the "2012 Waste Book" of U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn were a $325,000 grant to develop a "robosquirrel" (to help study the somehow-confusing interaction between squirrels and rattlesnakes) and a $700,000 grant by the National Science Foundation for a New York theater company to create a musical about climate change and biodiversity (which actually opened this year, in Kansas City, and included among its concepts, according to one critic, "flying monkey poop"). Abuses of the food stamp program were also detailed, such as by one exotic dancer who, while earning $85,000, drew food stamps in an amount roughly equivalent to the sum she spent on "cosmetic enhancements." [Fox News, 10-16-2012]

-- While the Department of Veterans Affairs remains under criticism for inadequate funding for personnel disabled in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, it spent in 2010 more than $5 million on training conferences just to teach bureaucrats how to administer parts of its latest collective-bargaining contract, according to an October report in the Washington Examiner. In fact, reported the Examiner,$34 million in payroll goes to department officials who work mainly on union-related activities.[Washington Examiner, 10-1-2012]
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#13 Nov 27, 2012
Irolls/ball sack boi<quoted text> If you can find a flux capacitor, I will travel back in time with Michael J Fox, log in to Topix, and complain about Bush, Sure! You wont catch me defending Bush. He made PLENTY of mistakes.
I have never said Bush didn't make mistakes. I will even admit that they affected Obama's presidency...

IrishMN <quoted text>
When have you ever seen me beating the drum for Bush by saying he did not start diggin us into the hole we are in?
The best thing Bush did was leave office.
We could not afford 4 more years of GWB.....

Yet, ALL of you hypocrite humper bois CRY, whenever we mention ANY Bush culpability !??? WOW ! What a pair.... Mae West would be proud of you boobs ! LMAOROTF !

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#14 Nov 27, 2012
Niether of the Above wrote:
<quoted text>Slammed!! Nice work Bridge!
Definitely slammed. How about that "scathing" retort.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#15 Nov 27, 2012
Poor cantgetitup, defining terms doesn't mean much, from a moron, with multiple monikers...

Nice "try" piff puff, now try harder, boi.

Smart Liberal

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#16 Nov 27, 2012
Imagine that, the moochers don't want to give away any of the government cheese they get for free each month. And they don't want to work for it either.

They just want to be left alone with their government cheese paid for by the producers in this country.

I am not surprised.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#17 Nov 27, 2012
You shouldn't be, you've known moochers con/jw for a while, right ??? LMAOROTFU~!

Did they get "Corvair rides" if/when it ran ??? LMAOROTFU~!
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#18 Nov 27, 2012
IMMR up 34% TODAY ~! Fly like an EAGLE ~! LMAOROTFU~!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Minneapolis Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say (Jul '10) 21 min chazmo 36,099
Tucker carlson 48 min Space ace 9
CNN = Fake News 14 hr FOVR 42
CIA coup against trump! Fri Space ace 14
Hennepin County Judge Bruce Peterson: Feb 17 cowboy chris 5
Awesome first 3 weeks Feb 16 Waikiki brown water 27
God showed me Feb 16 Space ace 14

Minneapolis Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Minneapolis Mortgages