Obama 40% of gun sales without a background check

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Apr 3, 2013
Barry uses this in all of his anti-gun speeches.
It turns out it is based on a study of 251 people done 20 years ago.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#2 Apr 3, 2013
I like your proof, isn't this worse, than Obama's ?? Certainly.....
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Apr 3, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
Barry uses this in all of his anti-gun speeches.
It turns out it is based on a study of 251 people done 20 years ago.
Slew and Obama's argument dogma.

Simply follow these rules:-=- Make things up. Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove that Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you are not going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say instead: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level." NOTE: Always make up exact figures. If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published on May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say, "You left your soiled underwear in my bathroom."

-=- Use meaningless but weighty-sounding words and phrases. Memorize this list: Let me put it this way In terms of Vis-a-vis Per se As it were Qua So to speak You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.", "e.g.", and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you don't." Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say, "Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money." You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say, "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D." Only a fool would challenge that statement.

-=- Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks. You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevant phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are: You're begging the question. You're being defensive. Don't compare apples to oranges. What are your parameters? This last one is especially valuable. Nobody (other than engineers and policy wonks) has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means. Don't forget the classic: YOU'RE SO LINEAR. Here's how to use your comebacks: You say: As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873... Your opponent says: Lincoln died in 1865. You say: You're begging the question. You say: Liberians, like most Asians... Your opponent says: Liberia is in Africa. You say: You're being defensive.

-=- Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler. This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say, "That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say," or "You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler."

If you peruse these, you will notice that these are all methods Slew uses, and variations thereof. While he doesn't always compare others to Hitler after losing the arguments, he does compare the poster he just lost to to some other undesriable person, undesirable object, or undesirable ideal.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#4 Apr 3, 2013
You've misquoted, lied, changed monikers, and used stupid repetitive comments unrelated to the reality of the discussion...

Now you're copy/pasting sites without citing the original author after chiding me for plagerism ??

SWEET !!!
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Apr 3, 2013
I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:

* Drink Liquor.

Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.

* Make things up.

Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say:``I think Peruvians are underpaid.'' Say:``The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level.''

NOTE: Always make up exact figures.

If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up, too. Say:``This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?'' Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say ``You left your soiled underwear in my bath house.''

* Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.

Memorize this list:

o Let me put it this way
o In terms of
o Vis-a-vis
o Per se
o As it were
o Qua
o So to speak

You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as ``Q.E.D.,''``e.g.,'' and ``i.e.'' These are all short for ``I speak Latin, and you do not.''

Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say:``Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money.''

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say:``Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D.''

Only a fool would challenge that statement.

* Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.

You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevant phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

o You're begging the question.
o You're being defensive.
o Don't compare apples and oranges.
o What are your parameters?

This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what ``parameters'' means.

Here's how to use your comebacks:

o You say:``As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...''
Your opponent says:``Lincoln died in 1865.''
You say:``You're begging the question.''

OR

o You say:``Liberians, like most Asians...''
Your opponent says:``Liberia is in Africa.''
You say:``You're being defensive.''

* Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.

This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say:``That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say'' or ``You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler.''

So that's it: you now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull this on people who generally carry weapons.

Dave Barry is the author, originally published in 2004. However it is the slewpid arguing technique in a nutshell, ask any of his remaining friends.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#7 Apr 3, 2013
Poor non-sense, every word you write is partisan POOP !!!
non-starter wrote: I found it, you just won't publish that you got it off Yahoo or Wiki answers ....
THEN the lies began, LMAOROTFU~!
non-starter wrote: No, I guessed, because you
weren't forthcoming with your source
OR MY NEW FAVORITE-
non-starter wrote: I found similar postings on Yahoo answers and Wiki answers
You posted to the urban dictionary to support your position...It's called tampering and you're clearly a duplicitous/dishonest POS... Have a nice lie... Oh sorry, I surely meant life.
Awful Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#8 Apr 3, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Poor non-sense, every word you write is partisan POOP !!!
non-starter wrote: I found it, you just won't publish that you got it off Yahoo or Wiki answers ....
THEN the lies began, LMAOROTFU~!
non-starter wrote: No, I guessed, because you
weren't forthcoming with your source
OR MY NEW FAVORITE-
non-starter wrote: I found similar postings on Yahoo answers and Wiki answers
You posted to the urban dictionary to support your position...It's called tampering and you're clearly a duplicitous/dishonest POS... Have a nice lie... Oh sorry, I surely meant life.
Defective,

Your Morbid Obesity is not an issue because this month because you be is a World Renowned Day Trader.

Will you be coming out as "Slewsie the Flamer" eventually?

Try some Honesty, it will not kill you, and your Savior Beelzebub will forgive you.

You should be afraid, very afraid.

Americans that have sacrificed so that your miserable azz can be sustained by the Collective stealing from the productive to feed you, will not feed you when your Messiah collapses our society.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#10 Apr 3, 2013
Con DA DRUNK CRAZY LOSER'S SPAM & EGGS "time"
Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to
leave because I'd go berserk?? Well...
You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see
I've gone completely out of my mind.. And..
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Apr 3, 2013
Using Obama's 40%, that would mean that about 1.1 billion guns were sold during his time in office(so far).

With this much commerce going on, how come the economy isn't doing better?
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#12 Apr 3, 2013
Actually, the background checks have little relationship to total gun sales.... Still waiting for facts, I guess you're a troll...
Awful Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#13 Apr 3, 2013
100% of Free People should not be subjected to "Background Checks".

70% of all gun crimes are committed in the Urban Cesspools. These sewers of Humanity have the most restrictive controls on Freedom, because of the way the Demokrats handle their Plantation Residents.

The damnedest thing is that the only people whose lives are improved by Background Checks, are the useless Bureaucrat's that are Dependents with Government Jobs, required because of the stupid "Feel Good" laws which are not enforced.

I like Demokrats, they be somb smert "folks"
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Apr 3, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Actually, the background checks have little relationship to total gun sales.... Still waiting for facts, I guess you're a troll...
Are you stating that background checks are being done for no reason under Obama? That would explain why they have doubled since he took office.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#16 Apr 3, 2013
Are you stating, you're a troll ???

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#17 Apr 3, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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Are you stating that background checks are being done for no reason under Obama? That would explain why they have doubled since he took office.
That's because he has been lauded as the number one firearms salesman of the century.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#18 Apr 3, 2013
SO, the mandatory background checks weren't being done before Obama ?? WOW ! Looks like an argument for greater weapons scrutiny...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#19 Apr 3, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you stating that background checks are being done for no reason under Obama? That would explain why they have doubled since he took office.
Gun sales and carry permits issued have doubled or even tripled since Obama got elected.(both times) Therefore, mandatory background checks have increased right along with the increased sales.
Awful Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#20 Apr 3, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
Gun sales and carry permits issued have doubled or even tripled since Obama got elected.(both times) Therefore, mandatory background checks have increased right along with the increased sales.
Gawd it is so hard to be logical when one has an agenda.....an undefined agenda, but an agenda all the same.

Barry the Magnificent and most Benevolent, leads down the path to collapse....and his Sheeple Fiddle as they Diddle!
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#22 Apr 3, 2013
Awful Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Gawd it is so hard to be logical when one has an agenda.....an undefined agenda, but an agenda all the same.
Barry the Magnificent and most Benevolent, leads down the path to collapse....and his Sheeple Fiddle as they Diddle!
While WE pay for your health care.......
Awful Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#23 Apr 3, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>While WE pay for your health care.......
Ouch!

Not that Strawman!

Please just stay with calling me a drunk. I like that Strawman better, and using it will still assuage the angst you endure because of your supple gut and anatomical shortcomings.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#24 Apr 3, 2013
Your problems is the vagueness of the actual quote, children.

"...as many as 40 percent of all gun purchases are conducted without a background check.

"...As many as", covers ZERO to 40%....

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