Minimum wage: Agreeing on $9.50 an ho...

Minimum wage: Agreeing on $9.50 an hour, lawmakers differ on inflation indexing

There are 28 comments on the St. Cloud Times story from Mar 5, 2014, titled Minimum wage: Agreeing on $9.50 an hour, lawmakers differ on inflation indexing. In it, St. Cloud Times reports that:

There's no chance the Senate will approve a minimum wage bill that includes an adjustment for inflation, Senate Majority Leader Tom Bakk said Tuesday.

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“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#1 Mar 5, 2014
$9.50? Cheapskates!

If you want to eradicate poverty,$9.50 won't do it. Make it $25 an hour AND mandatory full benefits with a employer paid, defined benefit retirement program where they are eligible at age 55.

Come on Democrats. Don't cheap out on your loyal supporters.
OneOfTheBobs

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Mar 5, 2014
Another new thread by America hating fright wingers. Why do you hate our country so much?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#3 Mar 5, 2014
Oh come on Irish. $9.50 ain't so bad when you factor in food stamps, EBT benefits, rent subsidies, and free health care. That's just about enough to finance cigs, booze, weed, and gas for your new car.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#5 Mar 5, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
Oh come on Irish.$9.50 ain't so bad when you factor in food stamps, EBT benefits, rent subsidies, and free health care. That's just about enough to finance cigs, booze, weed, and gas for your new car.
Interesting observances, and very true.

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The Work versus Welfare Trade-Off: 2013

By Michael D. Tanner and Charles Hughes
August 19, 2013

"Welfare benefits continue to outpace the income that most recipients can expect to earn from an entry-level job, and the balance between welfare and work may actually have grown worse in recent years."

"The current welfare system provides such a high level of benefits that it acts as a disincentive for work. Welfare currently pays more than a minimum-wage job in 35 states, even after accounting for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and in 13 states it pays more than $15 per hour. If Congress and state legislatures are serious about reducing welfare dependence and rewarding work, they should consider strengthening welfare work requirements, removing exemptions, and narrowing the definition of work. Moreover, states should consider ways to shrink the gap between the value of welfare and work by reducing current benefit levels and tightening eligibility requirements."

http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/...

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#6 Mar 5, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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Is it really enough? Hey OneOfTheBobs, don't you have an app on your Obamaphone to figure this out?
Thanks for the chuckle. Good one!
OneOfTheBobs

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Mar 5, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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Is it really enough? Hey OneOfTheBobs, don't you have an app on your Obamaphone to figure this out?
Not for that but my iPhone does have a "Rate the Bagger" app. It goes off the scale when I'm on Topix.

Only a Bagger could reason that people should be paid so poorly they require public assistance. That's paid for by tax dollars by the way. Wages come out of the pocket of the private sector. Why do you feel the private sector needs to be subsidized this way?

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#8 Mar 5, 2014
OneOfTheBobs wrote:
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Not for that but my iPhone does have a "Rate the Bagger" app. It goes off the scale when I'm on Topix.
Only a Bagger could reason that people should be paid so poorly they require public assistance. That's paid for by tax dollars by the way. Wages come out of the pocket of the private sector. Why do you feel the private sector needs to be subsidized this way?
Yo, Bobbie ... you think that Conservatives are behind the push for greater welfare benefits? I think you might be a bit off on that one.

Libs are the ones that pushed for the expansions of the welfare system. In fact, Barack Hussein Obama's actions have shown him to be one who says punish those that work so we can pay off those that don't want to work.

Conservatives are still trying to hold onto the original premise of "temporary" welfare benefits until someone can get back on their feet. But if they can make as much off welfare as they can at an entry level job, what is the purpose of working at an entry level job?

Just keep munching that government cheese that is sent to you each month.
Disraeli

Sedona, AZ

#9 Mar 5, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
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The Work versus Welfare Trade-Off: 2013
By Michael D. Tanner and Charles Hughes
August 19, 2013
"Welfare benefits continue to outpace the income that most recipients can expect to earn from an entry-level job, and the balance between welfare and work may actually have grown worse in recent years."
"The current welfare system provides such a high level of benefits that it acts as a disincentive for work. Welfare currently pays more than a minimum-wage job in 35 states, even after accounting for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and in 13 states it pays more than $15 per hour. If Congress and state legislatures are serious about reducing welfare dependence and rewarding work, they should consider strengthening welfare work requirements, removing exemptions, and narrowing the definition of work. Moreover, states should consider ways to shrink the gap between the value of welfare and work by reducing current benefit levels and tightening eligibility requirements."
http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/...
So what do you expect in an Obama reign? Work requirements, job improvement? personal responsibility? Face it,. this is liberal planning in it's sublimety. A work of Rooseveltian grandness. something that George Soros dearly wants to see before he dies.
But we have bred and imported our herds of sheep, and the shearing and slaughter will soon commence.And we will have another Obama, or perhaps the same one, who will step in and lead us to righteousness under a firm and loving rule. North Korea has shown the way

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#11 Mar 5, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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How about finding a better job if your present job doesn't pay enough? Or maybe a second job? Or, heaven forbid, spend less?
HERETIC!!!!!

Since: Mar 14

Location hidden

#12 Mar 5, 2014
Can't raise the minimum wage and have any positive affect unless price increases are prohibited.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#13 Mar 6, 2014
detroller wrote:
Can't raise the minimum wage and have any positive affect unless price increases are prohibited.
There ya go. That is the answer to everything.

Have the government dictate that the minimum wage goes up to $9.50.
In a companion law, have the government dictate that prices are not allowed to increase.

Problem solved. What a brilliant economist Mr or Ms detroller is.
Maverick

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Mar 6, 2014
detroller wrote:
Can't raise the minimum wage and have any positive affect unless price increases are prohibited.
I agree with you,but you can't reason with a fool like the above poster.

Were Moving Forward!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#16 Mar 6, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
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There ya go. That is the answer to everything.
Have the government dictate that the minimum wage goes up to $9.50.
In a companion law, have the government dictate that prices are not allowed to increase.
Problem solved. What a brilliant economist Mr or Ms detroller is.
I do believe detroller was being sarcastic. However, the "cowboy" was dead serious. He is essentially a socialist who believes that the government can do no wrong and should control every aspect of our lives. As long as it's run by democrats that is.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#19 Mar 6, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
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I do believe detroller was being sarcastic. However, the "cowboy" was dead serious. He is essentially a socialist who believes that the government can do no wrong and should control every aspect of our lives. As long as it's run by democrats that is.
I hope you are right about detroller being sarcastic. Price controls and wage controls have no place in a capitalistic economy.

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“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#21 Mar 6, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
How about not letting ANY ILLEGALS work. That would be enough to bring the wages up.
The SEIU would never allow that. Nor would the UFCW or the Chamber of Commerce. Those three make very strange bedfellows.

Those union bosses depend on illegals to pay their big salaries and bonuses. And the Chamber depends on member dues funneled to it by businesses that thrive on cheap labor.
Maverick

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Mar 10, 2014
OneOfTheBobs wrote:
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Nice to see you still are doing the Irish side step jig type of lie. You've still got it baby!
True Dat!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#31 Mar 13, 2014
IrishMN wrote:
If I was in the Twin Cities this coming weekend, I'd be at this rally. This is where the entitlement crowd will shine amongst their own.
"I don't care about profts, I deserve $15 per hour!"
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Why do the stupid people always think they can not be replaced with automation?
You want a base wage of $15 per hour? Good for you. Now do something that produces more than $15 per hour in net profits. Then you won't have to ask for that wage. You will already be earning it.
No fears. When the robots replace them, and they will, then they will protest being replaced and not being retrianed by the likes of McDonalds, Taco Bell, Wal Mart, etc. And a few ambulance chasers will take up their cause and sue those employers.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Mar 17, 2014
Hawaii pays a woman with 2 kids on welfare $60,000 a year.

Hawaii weather is the best in the world.

Hawaii has NO snakes.

Hawaii has NO biteing bugs.

Hawaii property taxes are 1/3 of Minnesota's.

Hawaii beaches and parks are second to none.

Hawaii has NO frost to destroy roads etc.

Hawaii is building a new LRT line for easy commutes.

Paradise for sure,$500 will fly you there. What are you waiting for?
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#36 Mar 17, 2014
Trigger wrote:
Hawaii pays a woman with 2 kids on welfare $60,000 a year.
Hawaii weather is the best in the world.
Hawaii has NO snakes.
Hawaii has NO biteing bugs.
Hawaii property taxes are 1/3 of Minnesota's.
Hawaii beaches and parks are second to none.
Hawaii has NO frost to destroy roads etc.
Hawaii is building a new LRT line for easy commutes.
Paradise for sure,$500 will fly you there. What are you waiting for?
Is that you Digger?
OneOfTheBobs

Saint Paul, MN

#37 Mar 17, 2014
Trigger wrote:
Hawaii pays a woman with 2 kids on welfare $60,000 a year.
Hawaii weather is the best in the world.
Hawaii has NO snakes.
Hawaii has NO biteing bugs.
Hawaii property taxes are 1/3 of Minnesota's.
Hawaii beaches and parks are second to none.
Hawaii has NO frost to destroy roads etc.
Hawaii is building a new LRT line for easy commutes.
Paradise for sure,$500 will fly you there. What are you waiting for?
IrishBagger, is that you?

It's obvious by the lack of sources. Sounds more like NSP.

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