Church Attendance Doesn't Make You a ...

Church Attendance Doesn't Make You a Christian

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read the bible

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Aug 9, 2013
exactly, but you have to follow the word of GOD. Liberals don't follow the word of GOD = sin.

Question: "What does the Bible say about gay marriage / same sex marriage?"

Answer: While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be shameful, unnatural, lustful, and indecent. First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are unrighteous and will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since both homosexual desires and actions are condemned in the Bible, it is clear that homosexuals “marrying” is not God’s will, and would be, in fact, sinful.

Whenever the Bible mentions marriage, it is between a male and a female. The first mention of marriage, Genesis 2:24, describes it as a man leaving his parents and being united to his wife. In passages that contain instructions regarding marriage, such as 1 Corinthians 7:2-16 and Ephesians 5:23-33, the Bible clearly identifies marriage as being between a man and a woman. Biblically speaking, marriage is the lifetime union of a man and a woman, primarily for the purpose of building a family and providing a stable environment for that family.

Question: "What does the Bible say about abortion?"

Answer: The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However, there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as for someone who commits murder. This clearly indicates that God considers a baby in the womb to be as human as a full-grown adult. For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman’s right to choose. It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).

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ScHmahl IdioT wrote:
Church Attendance Doesn't Make You a Christian or Better Than Anyone Else
Living in Texas, a state which is very “religious”(as are many in the South), I’m exposed to many “Christians” who attend church 2 or 3 times a week, volunteer for functions at their church, put their kids in the choir, go to summer bible camp, etc. You name it, they’re involved.
Ironically, many of these same people who seem to live and breathe church are also some of the biggest pricks and hypocrites I know once they’re outside of church.
Now I’m not saying everyone I know that’s highly devoted to their church falls into this category. I do know some great people who seem to live at church. But those are people who are just good people—they just happen to go to church often.
Even without church, these people would still be great human beings.
But the other group, the ones who base their devotion to God on how involved they are at church, those are the ones who are often some of the worst people I ever run across.
Like the couple I met, married with 2 kids, that wouldn’t let their cousin live with them unless she went to church 3 nights a week. Okay, fine, whatever. They were highly involved in their church and I guess if you’re going to live under their roof it’s reasonable to abide by their rules.
But wait, come to find out both the husband and wife were both having affairs. Not only that, their children were severely obese, with doctors saying their children were most likely headed toward diabetes at a very young age if their eating habits weren’t changed. But even with that news the cousin told me the parents didn’t care and continued to let the kids eat whatever they wanted.
Aamil

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Aug 9, 2013
Allah teaches us the truth.

Islamic Shari'ah law is extracted from both the Qur'an and Muhammad's Sunnah (found in the Hadith and Sira). Islamic jurisprudence are expansion of the laws contained within them by Islamic jurists. Therefore, they are seen as the laws of Allah. You need only look to the rulings under Shari'ah to see the accepted mainstream interpretation of Islam and its commandments to its followers. Homosexuality under this law, is not only a sin, but a punishable crime against God.

In the case of homosexuality, how it is dealt with differs between the four mainline schools of Sunni jurisprudence today, but what they all agree upon is that homosexuality is worthy of a severe penalty.

In the Hanafi school of thought, the homosexual is first punished through harsh beating, and if he/she repeats the act, the death penalty is to be applied.

As for the Shafi`i school of thought, the homosexual receives the same punishment as adultery (if he/she is married) or fornication (if not married). This means, that if the homosexual is married, he/she is stoned to death, while if single, he/she is whipped 100 times. Hence, the Shafi`i compares the punishment applied in the case of homosexuality with that of adultery and fornication.

The Hanafi differentiates between the two acts because in homosexuality, anal sex [something that is prohibited, regardless of orientation] may also be involved, while in adultery [and fornication], the penis/vagina (which are reproductive parts) are involved.
ScHmahl IdioT

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Aug 9, 2013
ScHmahl IdioT wrote:
<quoted text>
Now if you look at the words of Jesus, who never once discussed homosexuality but many many many times said to love thy neighbor and that the poor were blessed and the rich weren't, you get an entirely different idea.
So you believe in all that great old testament stuff like human sacrifices being OK, pork being bad, people with one testicle not allowed to attend church, and masturbation equaling murder, why aren't you crying about all THOSE sins in the world?
The Old testament, is better than the gay testament.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#16 Aug 9, 2013
"Church Attendance Doesn't Make You a Christian or Better Than Anyone Else"

This is quite correct.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#18 Aug 9, 2013
ScHmahl IdioT wrote:
Now if you look at the words of Jesus, who never once discussed homosexuality but many many many times said to love thy neighbor and that the poor were blessed and the rich weren't, you get an entirely different idea.
So you believe in all that great old testament stuff like human sacrifices being OK, pork being bad, people with one testicle not allowed to attend church, and masturbation equaling murder, why aren't you crying about all THOSE sins in the world?
Umm...I really like pork. If you tried my spare ribs or pulled pork you would love it.

I haven't been to church in some time. Have they started checking testicles at the door again?
digger

Minneapolis, MN

#26 Aug 11, 2013
ScHmahl IdioT wrote:
Church Attendance Doesn't Make You a Christian or Better Than Anyone Else
Living in Texas, a state which is very “religious”(as are many in the South), I’m exposed to many “Christians” who attend church 2 or 3 times a week, volunteer for functions at their church, put their kids in the choir, go to summer bible camp, etc. You name it, they’re involved.
Ironically, many of these same people who seem to live and breathe church are also some of the biggest pricks and hypocrites I know once they’re outside of church.
Now I’m not saying everyone I know that’s highly devoted to their church falls into this category. I do know some great people who seem to live at church. But those are people who are just good people—they just happen to go to church often.
Even without church, these people would still be great human beings.
But the other group, the ones who base their devotion to God on how involved they are at church, those are the ones who are often some of the worst people I ever run across.
Like the couple I met, married with 2 kids, that wouldn’t let their cousin live with them unless she went to church 3 nights a week. Okay, fine, whatever. They were highly involved in their church and I guess if you’re going to live under their roof it’s reasonable to abide by their rules.
But wait, come to find out both the husband and wife were both having affairs. Not only that, their children were severely obese, with doctors saying their children were most likely headed toward diabetes at a very young age if their eating habits weren’t changed. But even with that news the cousin told me the parents didn’t care and continued to let the kids eat whatever they wanted.
Well being a F@& doesn't make you a "christian" either, so what is your STUPID POINT,!D!OT!!
digger

Minneapolis, MN

#28 Aug 11, 2013
ScHmahl IdioT wrote:
<quoted text>
Now if you look at the words of Jesus, who never once discussed homosexuality but many many many times said to love thy neighbor and that the poor were blessed and the rich weren't, you get an entirely different idea.
So you believe in all that great old testament stuff like human sacrifices being OK, pork being bad, people with one testicle not allowed to attend church, and masturbation equaling murder, why aren't you crying about all THOSE sins in the world?
Being GAY wasn't exactly a major issue in those days, the primary concern was the Roman empire and their heavy handed tactics.
Rev Feelgood

Cottage Grove, MN

#33 Aug 11, 2013
Laying in bed with your lover on a saturay night screaming "Oh God Yes! Yes! Oh God Yes!" does not fulfill your Sunday go to church obligation.

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