Vikings stadium to cost the public more than anticipated

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Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jan 19, 2013
Minnesotans share of the handout to billionaire Zygi Wilf looks to be growing. Wilf threatened to move the Vikings unless he got a taxpayer-funded stadium in which he could make even more money than he already does. As sports team owners always do, he got his wish.

The agreement was that electronic pull tabs would pay a large share of the state's part of the gift to Wilf.

Unfortunately, pull tab revenues are not bringing the amount of money they were supposed to.

Revenues since pull-tabs started on Sept. 18 have fallen far short of the $100 million monthly target experts initially set for the games. Last month, disappointing revenues prompted state finance officials to cut the expected stadium cash they'd have on hand by half.

The most current data from the Minnesota Gambling Control Board show Minnesotans only played a total of $4.1 million worth of the games through the end of 2012.

By New Year's Eve, there were just 386 machines up and running, a fraction of the 15,400 electronic pull-tab devices projected to be eventually in play.

The existing machines each are grossing $180 a day - again short of the projected $225 daily take - grossing less per day than the experts' projection made when the stadium financing plan was being worked on last spring.

"The critical point is just the lack of sites," said Tom Barrett, executive director of the Minnesota Gambling Control Board, which approves the games. "And again, we have a potential pool of 2,500 sites, and as of today, we're in about 120, 118 sites.
(MPR)
Get This

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jan 19, 2013
Slippery slope of gambleing.

Once on it it's like Government, it never goes away.

These electronic pull tabs were illconceived to start with. Government "experts" actually thought these new machines would somehow create more decresionary income in people back pockets.

Delusional Idiots.

I love gambleing more and more every time I go to pay for gas and have to wait behind a knuckle dragger doing the scratch and sniff thing with lottery tickets.

Don't they understand is't a waste of time and money.
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Jan 19, 2013
Get This wrote:
Slippery slope of gambleing.
Once on it it's like Government, it never goes away.
These electronic pull tabs were illconceived to start with. Government "experts" actually thought these new machines would somehow create more decresionary income in people back pockets.
Delusional Idiots.
I love gambleing more and more every time I go to pay for gas and have to wait behind a knuckle dragger doing the scratch and sniff thing with lottery tickets.
Don't they understand is't a waste of time and money.
Only on Topix can you find someone who is functionally illiterate calling someone else an "Idiot" (capitalized, no less).
Get This

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jan 19, 2013
Consistent wrote:
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Only on Topix can you find someone who is functionally illiterate calling someone else an "Idiot" (capitalized, no less).
Thanks for the spell check etc.

Your lack of response makes what I posted true.

Thanks again.

Door Knob!!!
Amused SLew

Seattle, WA

#5 Jan 19, 2013
A lack of response is proof ??? WOW !?? Teabagger, right ??
Get This

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jan 19, 2013
Amused SLew wrote:
A lack of response is proof ??? WOW !?? Teabagger, right ??
A lack of response is proof ??? WOW !?? Teabagger, right ??
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#7 Jan 19, 2013
Clever in 2nd grade, nice progression, for you.
Hard to understand, how the "religious right" loses elections ???
Get This

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Jan 19, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Clever in 2nd grade, nice progression, for you.
Hard to understand, how the "religious right" loses elections ???
A lack of response is proof ??? WOW !?? Libertard, right ??
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jan 19, 2013
Consistent wrote:
Minnesotans share of the handout to billionaire Zygi Wilf looks to be growing. Wilf threatened to move the Vikings unless he got a taxpayer-funded stadium in which he could make even more money than he already does. As sports team owners always do, he got his wish.
The agreement was that electronic pull tabs would pay a large share of the state's part of the gift to Wilf.
Unfortunately, pull tab revenues are not bringing the amount of money they were supposed to.
Revenues since pull-tabs started on Sept. 18 have fallen far short of the $100 million monthly target experts initially set for the games. Last month, disappointing revenues prompted state finance officials to cut the expected stadium cash they'd have on hand by half.
The most current data from the Minnesota Gambling Control Board show Minnesotans only played a total of $4.1 million worth of the games through the end of 2012.
By New Year's Eve, there were just 386 machines up and running, a fraction of the 15,400 electronic pull-tab devices projected to be eventually in play.
The existing machines each are grossing $180 a day - again short of the projected $225 daily take - grossing less per day than the experts' projection made when the stadium financing plan was being worked on last spring.
"The critical point is just the lack of sites," said Tom Barrett, executive director of the Minnesota Gambling Control Board, which approves the games. "And again, we have a potential pool of 2,500 sites, and as of today, we're in about 120, 118 sites.
(MPR)
This was done under the watchful eyes of Gov Macy. The DFL and Gov Macy ought to make up the difference from their own projections out of thier pockets.
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jan 19, 2013
The Truth wrote:
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This was done under the watchful eyes of Gov Macy. The DFL and Gov Macy ought to make up the difference from their own projections out of thier pockets.
Actual, the Republican controlled house and senate passed this on "thier" [sic] watch.
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Jan 19, 2013
Consistent wrote:
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Actual, the Republican controlled house and senate passed this on "thier" [sic] watch.
The law was singed by Democrat Gov Macy and voted for by the following. More Democrats than Republicans in both the House and the Senate. The Democrats own this one.

House Votes

Democrats

Anzelc (Balsam Twp); Atkins (Inver Grove Heights); Benson, J.(Minnetonka); Brynaert (Mankato); Champion (Minneapolis); Dill (Crane Lake); Dittrich (Champlin); Eken (Twin Valley); Fritz (Faribault); Gauthier (Duluth); Hilstrom (Brooklyn Center); Hortman (Brooklyn Park); Hosch (St. Joseph); Johnson (St. Paul); Kath (Owatonna); Knuth (New Brighton); Lesch (St. Paul); Lillie (North St. Paul); Mahoney (St. Paul); Mariani (St. Paul); Marquart (Dilworth); Melin (Hibbing); Moran (St. Paul); Morrow (St. Peter); Murphy, M.(Hermantown); Nelson (Brooklyn Park); Norton (Rochester); Pelowski (Winona); Persell (Bemidji); Poppe (Austin); Rukavina (Virginia); Simon (St. Louis Park); Slawik (Maplewood); Slocum (Richfield); Thissen (Minneapolis); Tillberry (Fridley); Ward (Brainerd); Winkler (Golden Valley)

Republicans

Abeler (Anoka); Anderson, P.(Starbuck); Beard (Shakopee); Cornish (Vernon Center); Davids (Preston); Doepke (Orono); Fabian (Roseau); Garofalo (Farmington); Gottwalt (St. Cloud); Gunther (Fairmont); Hamilton (Mountain Lake); Hoppe (Chaska); Howes (Walker); Kelly (Red Wing); Kiel (Crookston); Kriesel (Cottage Grove); Lanning (Moorhead); LeMieur (Little Falls); McFarlane (White Bear Lake); McNamara (Hastings); Murdock (Ottertail); Murray (Albert Lea); Nornes (Fergus Falls); O'Driscoll (Sartell); Sanders (Blaine); Schomacker (Luverne); Shimanski (Silver Lake); Smith (Mound); Torkelson (Nelson Twp); Urdahl (Grove City); Vogel (Willmar); Westrom (Elbow Lake); Woodard (Belle Plaine)

Senate

Democrats

Thomas M. Bakk DFL
Terri E. Bonoff DFL
Richard J. Cohen DFL
Barb Goodwin DFL
John M. Harrington DFL
Linda Higgins DFL
Kenneth S. Kelash DFL
Lyle Koenen DFL
Keith Langseth DFL
Ron Latz DFL
James P. Metzen DFL
Roger J. Reinert DFL
Ann H. Rest DFL
Tom Saxhaug DFL
Kathy Sheran DFL
Katie Sieben DFL
Rod Skoe DFL
Dan Sparks DFL
LeRoy A. Stumpf DFL
David J. Tomassoni DFL
Charles W. Wiger DFL

Republicans

Michelle L. Fischbach R
Joe Gimse R
Bill Ingebrigtsen R
Michael J. Jungbauer R
Amy T. Koch R
Doug Magnus R
Geoff Michel R
Jeremy R. Miller R
Carla J. Nelson R
Gen Olson R
John C. Pederson R
Claire A. Robling R
Julie A. Rosen R
David H. Senjem R
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jan 19, 2013
Consistent wrote:
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Actual, the Republican controlled house and senate passed this on "thier" [sic] watch.
Keep posting dumbass. Show us again how stupid you are.
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Jan 19, 2013
The Truth wrote:
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The law was singed by Democrat Gov Macy
Please post a link to a video of this. I have yet to see Gov. Dayton sing anything.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#15 Jan 19, 2013
"The law was singed"?

Sure, you're RIGHT ???

LMAOROTFU~!
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#16 Jan 19, 2013
The Truth wrote:
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Keep posting dumbass..
I was passed by a majority of both parties, so show us again(comma) how stupid you are, cantgetitup...
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#17 Jan 19, 2013
It was passed by a majority of both parties, so show us again(comma) how stupid you are, cantgetitup...
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Jan 19, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
It was passed by a majority of both parties, so show us again(comma) how stupid you are, cantgetitup...
Transvestites are not welcome at the Post Office. Maybe that is why they fired your ass.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#19 Jan 19, 2013
The Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Transvestites are not welcome at the Post Office. Maybe that is why they fired your ass.
I'm sorry to hear you're not welcome, is that new, cantgetitup ?
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jan 19, 2013
The Stadium Bill is owned by the Democrats and Gov Macy.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#21 Jan 19, 2013
"The law was singed"?

Sure, you're RIGHT ???

LMAOROTFU~!

Bills are "owned", is that something new or it is pecu-liar to nutcase YOU ~! LMAOROTFU~!

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