real space ace

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jun 20, 2013
The horrible tragedy in Moore, Oklahoma reminds one that libertarians are people who like gambles in which heads, they rake it in; tails, you pay. They object to government regulations, even those of local municipalities, that would require residents in tornado-prone areas to include a life-saving "safe room" in their homes -- objecting even to requirements that such safe rooms be included in schools. Yet they then have the temerity to complain bitterly when federal aid for cleaning up and rebuilding their homes is delayed.

"This is a red state," notes state Rep. Richard Morrissette, D-Oklahoma City, in explaining the state legislature's refusal to pass his several bills requiring the construction of safe rooms, adding, "People don't like anything that is mandated. They don't like it when the government says they have to do something." Similarly, the Oklahoma State Home Builders Association, spokesperson Mike Gilles, who opposed a law requiring that homes have a safe room, explains: "Most homebuilders would be against that because we think the market ought to drive what people are putting in the houses, not the government." However, these libertarian sentiments did not prevent officials in the Oklahoma City suburb from complaining that $2 million in federal grants to pay for "safe rooms" in 800 homes had been delayed by a shortage of funding and FEMA requirements. And now the same two Oklahoma senators who voted against federal aid for disaster relief in the wake of Hurricane Sandy are now demanding federal assistance to help with the damage inflicted by the tornado. So far, some 4,200 people from the region have applied for federal assistance.

The libertarian rank hypocrisy runs much deeper and further than these post-tornado cries for help, which surely deserve our sympathy. And it needs yet another debunking, as there is a sharp rise in libertarian sentiment among the general public. While only small minorities vote for libertarian presidential candidates, their views were long embraced by nearly half of all Americans according to polls conducted by CNN, and have gained a sharp increase in following, up to a strong majority of all Americans -- roughly two thirds as of 2011. Libertarian Ron Paul was on the short list of candidates for the GOP's presidential nominee in the last election, and Rand Paul is considered to be a serious contender for the next one.

The essence of the libertarian argument, as even middle school kids know these days, is that I am a grown up, I know what is good for me (and my family), and if I want to engage in risky behavior, it is none of your business, because I am the one who will have to live with the consequences of my actions. What, for some reason many overlook, is that the last part of the statement has no leg to stand on.

When libertarians get hurt because they refused vaccination or to wear a seat belt or a motorcycle helmet, or have their property damaged because they build too close to the shoreline -- they call on ambulances, hospitals, and FEMA for help.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#4 Jun 20, 2013
Heck, they post here for free, then ignore the rules and add moderator costs, TO SOMEONE ELSE....

Looks like rank hypocrisy to anyone with a brain....
real space ace

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Jun 22, 2013
Libertarians suck!
Shameless Site

Grantsburg, WI

#8 Jun 22, 2013
real space ace wrote:
Libertarians suck!
No Integrity Name Stealer,

Waco and Ruby Ridge will be the END of the Criminals who are the Demokrat Party of Amerika.........eventually!

Not "Remember the Alamo"

"Remember Waco!"

(You Sheeple will see and learn, or your Children will!)
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#9 Jun 22, 2013
Sadly, you believe your blather has value, right moniker slut ?

Now write and agree with yourself another 20x. Or 50x, you've changed locations & monikers AT LEAST that many, right ?

Tough to see you're being dishonest & I'm being ironic, since you won't see reality after drinking it away.

OMG cant, are you a POS liar >I have probably lied thousands of times in my life, care to elaborate on which one you are talking about?

Very sad, loser.
Shameless Site

Grantsburg, WI

#10 Jun 22, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Sadly, you believe your blather has value,
Very sad, loser.
Loser?
Lets see what Our Topix Sociopath the Whacking Bush, has said recently.
Every single Quote below, is a sampling of Current Posts that Topix allows Seattle Slew,(or Bushwhacker, or whatever her current name is), to remain posted under The Topix, "Terms of Service".
Remember Folks, Be Polite, No Profanity, Exchange Ideas.....
"Some morons would talk about welfare, failed marriages, and their lives as losers..."
"Yeah, It's a "gay" question, by a "con-fused" moron..."
"Irony ?? Nope, STOOPID TEABAGGER ~!!!!"
"At least, you're showing your intelligence....
What "little" you have.... LMAOROFU~!"
"Since TrashyLiar, IrishMN, Fred, Smart Liberal has 4 daughters, we can conclude 2 are dumb, fat, minority males, and the other 2 may be dumb females, although 1 should be deceased, at this time....."
"I love teabagger "thinking"..."
"Corvair bYtch.."
"So, are you a cripple, pervert, or simply a completely sick SOB, who used family tragedy to BEG for "understanding" ???"
"Pretty sad, you make such a fuzz, when I tell your sick pal's secrets. Are you "close" ??? I suspect infatuation & more...Congratulations, you'll make a swell "couple"."
"Such a teabagging simpleton."
"Gay Mn, just tell yourself you have an audience and point"
"Morning SPAM, brought to you by DELICIOUS PhillipKs VodKa ~!!!"
"Poor drunken, welfare, dishonest, con..."
"SQUIRM WORM !!! LMAOROFU~ "
"Did they give out prizes, like free mittens, for you children ???"
"you're clearly a duplicitous/dishonest POS."
"Yep, dumb Batshit, should be any intelligent man's mantra...."
"multiple lady monikers have confused you, cantgetitup ??"
"Are you sick or just particularly stupid ... Mr Fake McFry McFool !!"
"Hopefully you're better at lying, than you are at "investing", senile dude."
", call names, and put on your knee-pads to perform, child."
"Some morons would talk about welfare, failed marriages, and their lives as losers..."
"Yeah, It's a "gay" question, by a "con-fused" moron..."
"Irony ?? Nope, STOOPID TEABAGGER ~!!!!"
"At least, you're showing your intelligence....
What "little" you have.... LMAOROFU~!"
"Since TrashyLiar, IrishMN, Fred, Smart Liberal has 4 daughters, we can conclude 2 are dumb, fat, minority males, and the other 2 may be dumb females, although 1 should be deceased, at this time....."
"I love teabagger "thinking"..."
"Corvair bYtch.."
"So, are you a cripple, pervert, or simply a completely sick SOB, who used family tragedy to BEG for "understanding" ???"
"Pretty sad, you make such a fuzz, when I tell your sick pal's secrets. Are you "close" ??? I suspect infatuation & more...Congratulations, you'll make a swell "couple"."
"Such a teabagging simpleton."
"Gay Mn, just tell yourself you have an audience and point"
"Morning SPAM, brought to you by DELICIOUS PhillipKs VodKa ~!!!"
"Poor drunken, welfare, dishonest, con..."
"SQUIRM WORM !!! LMAOROFU~ "
"Did they give out prizes, like free mittens, for you children ???"
"you're clearly a duplicitous/dishonest POS."
"Yep, dumb Batshit, should be any intelligent man's mantra...."
"multiple lady monikers have confused you, cantgetitup ??"
"Are you sick or just particularly stupid ... Mr Fake McFry McFool !!"
"Hopefully you're better at lying, than you are at "investing", senile dude."
"call names, and put on your knee-pads to perform, child."
..........
Please note the Disturbed nature of the thoughts of our Sociopath Slew
Homophobia,
Hatred of Children and families,
Repeated references to Gays and bashing them,
The references to race, and the Blatant Racism shown in the post(s),
Note the Violence advocated,
Note the "Teabagging" that she often remarks on,
Note that these Posts are CURRENT, and Topix allows this!
Topix SHOULD Have Slewblomkins reported as a Dangerous Sociopath in need of observation!
Drunken Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Jun 22, 2013
Nice rant!
Shameless Site

Grantsburg, WI

#14 Jun 22, 2013
Drunken Consistent wrote:
Nice rant!
Psychotic, You really enjoy Slewblomkins rants?
real space ace

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jun 23, 2013
The horrible tragedy in Moore, Oklahoma reminds one that libertarians are people who like gambles in which heads, they rake it in; tails, you pay. They object to government regulations, even those of local municipalities, that would require residents in tornado-prone areas to include a life-saving "safe room" in their homes -- objecting even to requirements that such safe rooms be included in schools. Yet they then have the temerity to complain bitterly when federal aid for cleaning up and rebuilding their homes is delayed.

"This is a red state," notes state Rep. Richard Morrissette, D-Oklahoma City, in explaining the state legislature's refusal to pass his several bills requiring the construction of safe rooms, adding, "People don't like anything that is mandated. They don't like it when the government says they have to do something." Similarly, the Oklahoma State Home Builders Association, spokesperson Mike Gilles, who opposed a law requiring that homes have a safe room, explains: "Most homebuilders would be against that because we think the market ought to drive what people are putting in the houses, not the government." However, these libertarian sentiments did not prevent officials in the Oklahoma City suburb from complaining that $2 million in federal grants to pay for "safe rooms" in 800 homes had been delayed by a shortage of funding and FEMA requirements. And now the same two Oklahoma senators who voted against federal aid for disaster relief in the wake of Hurricane Sandy are now demanding federal assistance to help with the damage inflicted by the tornado. So far, some 4,200 people from the region have applied for federal assistance.

The libertarian rank hypocrisy runs much deeper and further than these post-tornado cries for help, which surely deserve our sympathy. And it needs yet another debunking, as there is a sharp rise in libertarian sentiment among the general public. While only small minorities vote for libertarian presidential candidates, their views were long embraced by nearly half of all Americans according to polls conducted by CNN, and have gained a sharp increase in following, up to a strong majority of all Americans -- roughly two thirds as of 2011. Libertarian Ron Paul was on the short list of candidates for the GOP's presidential nominee in the last election, and Rand Paul is considered to be a serious contender for the next one.

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