Minneapolis schools talk student susp...

Minneapolis schools talk student suspension disparities

There are 16 comments on the TwinCities story from Apr 14, 2013, titled Minneapolis schools talk student suspension disparities. In it, TwinCities reports that:

Black students who attend Minneapolis Public Schools are being suspended at a much higher rate than their white peers, causing district leaders to re-examine the standard they use for removing students from the classroom.

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“I Want To Be Evil”

Since: Feb 13

I Wanna Be Bad

#1 Apr 15, 2013
A school superintendent who isn't 'color-blind' is racist, and needs to be fired. Preferably without the large severance package.
And, this is a nation wide problem. It seems that many of the black youth have been raised to squander the freedom achieved by the civil rights act of the 1960's and have no sense of personal responsibility.
Former SPPS Student

Saint Paul, MN

#4 May 31, 2013
As a person of color who attended Saint Paul Public Schools from 1990 to 2003, I am appalled by the insinuations of institutional racism by community action groups such as the NAACP. Many of the ivory tower complainants have never had to deal with SPPS students on a daily basis, and therefore do not have a first-hand understanding of the common challenges that teachers face.
Based on my personal learning experience, I can honestly testify that the majority of SPPS educators want their students to succeed and genuinely do their best to encourage, motivate, and educate them.
The problem is many teachers’ efforts are often hindered by the poor behavior of unruly, abusive, foul-mouth students who are incorrigible because their parent(s) failed to inculcate proper standards of moral behavior.
Being poor is no excuse to have poor morals and values. For example my sisters and I grew up in poverty, yet our mother made us rich by instilling in us the values of education, hard work, perseverance, and respect for God.
In my view, to fulfill Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream we cannot continue assessing the rampant issue of student misbehavior based on our children’s skin color but rather the content of their character.
Dr Bill Cosby

Saint Paul, MN

#5 May 31, 2013
Are you not paying attention, people with their hat on backwards, pants down around the crack. Isn't that a sign of something, or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up (laughter and clapping ). Isn't it a sign of something when she's got her dress all the way up to the crack...and got all kinds of needles and things going through her body. What part of Africa did this come from?(laughter). We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans, they don't know a damned thing about Africa. With names like Shaniqua, Shaligua....and all that crap and all of them are in jail.(When we give these kinds names to our children, we give them the strength and inspiration in the meaning of those names. What's the point of giving them strong names if there is not parenting and values backing it up).

Brown Versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem. We've got to take the neighborhood back (clapping). We've got to go in there. Just forget telling your child to go to the Peace Corps. It's right around the corner.(laughter) It's standing on the corner. It can't speak English. It doesn't want to speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk.“Why you ain't where you is go, ra,” I don't know who these people are. And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk (laughter). Then I heard the father talk. This is all in the house. You used to talk a certain way on the corner and you got into the house and switched to English. Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't land a plane with “why you ain't...” You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth. There is no Bible that has that kind of language. Where did these people get the idea that they're moving ahead on this. Well, they know they're not, they're just hanging out in the same place, five or six generations sitting in the projects when you're just supposed to stay there long enough to get a job and move out.

http://www.eightcitiesmap.com/transcript_bc.h...
Bridgework

Olathe, KS

#6 May 31, 2013
No mention of the higher number of serious infractions by black students? Nah, it must be the unequal and racist implementation of the rules.

P.S. Back when I went to high school we had to import a group of inner city blacks for our school to meet state requirements. I don't think any of them finished the school year. Two of them were expelled within days after they attacked another student and then the pregnant teacher who tried to stop them.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#7 May 31, 2013
Well, it is a card that has always played well when all else fails. I am sure the legislature will get involved here as some bleeding heart liberal, probably Kahn, will introduce some bill to limit how many black students can be expelled in a year, or how many "second Chances" the district needs to give them.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#8 May 31, 2013
If you're "sure", it's loser blather, just like TGT !!!
Bridgework

Olathe, KS

#9 May 31, 2013
Niether of the Above wrote:
Well, it is a card that has always played well when all else fails. I am sure the legislature will get involved here as some bleeding heart liberal, probably Kahn, will introduce some bill to limit how many black students can be expelled in a year, or how many "second Chances" the district needs to give them.
Well they are also calling it racist that schools are not doing enough to keep black students from skipping class and dropping out.

Smart Liberal

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#10 May 31, 2013
The Mpls Public Schools are the same as any big city school system.

People try to find any excuse possible for the parent's, the kids, and the school's failure.

This is the most current bogus charge in a long line of bogus charges.

Want a good education for your kid? Don't put them in the public school system.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#11 May 31, 2013
Irish/SL KNOWS FAILURE....

IrishMN wrote:
<quoted text>
We all need to have one or two "dark" experiences like that to make us well rounded people, don't we?
I thought I wanted to do "real man's work" once and went to work during my college years in a foundry, on the 3rd shift, doing a similar task - and I it because of the macho image, plus it paid about 17 cents an hour more than my job in the grocery business.
The first night was one of those steamy summer nights where it goes down to about 92 degrees, with 90% humidity. Inside the plant it had to be at least 120 degrees with the furnaces running.
I lasted until the first break, then said I was going out for a smoke & ran like hell to get away. I was too embarrassed to even go pick up my check for the 2 hours and 15 minutes I was on the payroll.
All I knew after that night was that I had a lot more respect for anyone that could handle a job like that than I did prior to that fateful evening.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#12 May 31, 2013
Want a good education, don't listen to losers....

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#13 May 31, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
The Mpls Public Schools are the same as any big city school system.
People try to find any excuse possible for the parent's, the kids, and the school's failure.
This is the most current bogus charge in a long line of bogus charges.
Want a good education for your kid? Don't put them in the public school system.
At least the white kids have a fighting chance, but if you are a minority, less than 40% of graduating. Pathetic. Thanks Education Minnesota, the 70,000 strong teacher union fails some more!!
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#14 May 31, 2013
AT least(comma), any who graduate...will be smarter, than senile morons.

Got any good stock tips.... HAHAHHAHAHA ~!!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#15 May 31, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
The Mpls Public Schools are the same as any big city school system.
People try to find any excuse possible for the parent's, the kids, and the school's failure.
This is the most current bogus charge in a long line of bogus charges.
Want a good education for your kid? Don't put them in the public school system.
I have to disagree SL. Many of the public schools, like Anoka Hennepin, are among the best in the state. The true issue here is parental involvement.(and in many cases only one parent being involved)

Parents need to stop listening to Oprah and Dr. Phil and start pulling in the reins on their kids. Remember the days when you got in trouble at school and then got in trouble at home too?

Too many parents are trying to protect the self esteem of their precious snowflakes and raising them to believe they are entitled to most anything. Remember what Stuart Smalley used to say?

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggonit people like me.
Well, in the last 20 years, it's been taken to a whole new level.

Smart Liberal

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#16 May 31, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to disagree SL. Many of the public schools, like Anoka Hennepin, are among the best in the state. The true issue here is parental involvement.(and in many cases only one parent being involved)
Parents need to stop listening to Oprah and Dr. Phil and start pulling in the reins on their kids. Remember the days when you got in trouble at school and then got in trouble at home too?
Too many parents are trying to protect the self esteem of their precious snowflakes and raising them to believe they are entitled to most anything. Remember what Stuart Smalley used to say?
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggonit people like me.
Well, in the last 20 years, it's been taken to a whole new level.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one, my friend.

I do agree that the outer ring and the rural schools give a better education to the students. But even those do not compare with the education that is received in the private schools or from involved parents who home school their children.

Public schools spend way too much time indoctrinating the kids on politically correct BS - and not enough time on the basics of learning.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#17 May 31, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
We will have to agree to disagree on this one, my friend.
I do agree that the outer ring and the rural schools give a better education to the students. But even those do not compare with the education that is received in the private schools or from involved parents who home school their children.
Public schools spend way too much time indoctrinating the kids on politically correct BS - and not enough time on the basics of learning.
Irish/SL KNOWS FAILURE....

IrishMN wrote:
<quoted text>
We all need to have one or two "dark" experiences like that to make us well rounded people, don't we?
I thought I wanted to do "real man's work" once and went to work during my college years in a foundry, on the 3rd shift, doing a similar task - and I it because of the macho image, plus it paid about 17 cents an hour more than my job in the grocery business.
The first night was one of those steamy summer nights where it goes down to about 92 degrees, with 90% humidity. Inside the plant it had to be at least 120 degrees with the furnaces running.
I lasted until the first break, then said I was going out for a smoke & ran like hell to get away. I was too embarrassed to even go pick up my check for the 2 hours and 15 minutes I was on the payroll.
All I knew after that night was that I had a lot more respect for anyone that could handle a job like that than I did prior to that fateful evening.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#19 May 31, 2013
Try reading that "bonus" rule again, unless you intended to lie....

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