Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 37490 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#35991 Sep 10, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Nope. You definitely referenced an afternoon cartoon in your 'arguments'.
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Aristocracy has no scientific merit. And the 'decline' of the aristocracy from intermarrying other aristocrats is well documented.
in yur numerous delusions?

Dumbazz, everyone has heard of Fred Flintstone.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#35992 Sep 10, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Denver, the 'mile high city'?? No. It is called adiabatic cooling. That is, higher elevations are at lower air pressure and cooler.
It's not too late to get your GED..
where all those record setting hurricanes you and Al Snore predicted?

Fail hysteric

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#35993 Sep 11, 2014
Global Warming and the Feynman test

Modern climate fear-mongering is the latest example of the prostitution of science in the service of liberal ideology.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/09/global...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#35994 Sep 11, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
Can'tMakeSense still lying about what he said. Sad that he thinks I can't read back and look at what he posted.
Repeated: Daily Caller isn't fact, isn't scientific, isn't evidence. Period.
Buh-bye, Senseless.
Typical response. I'm not surprised.
LIbEralS

Minneapolis, MN

#35995 Sep 11, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
'Oooh! Oooh! Weather different! Must disprove global warming!'
LOL
Always amusing to witness Denier idiocy. And so easy, on this thread.:)
An early September winter storm in the Black Hills has dumped up to 8 inches of snow in the area, while Rapid City received its earliest snowfall in more than 120 years.

A winter storm warning is in effect until noon Mountain time Thursday for the northern and central Black Hills including the cities of Lead, Deadwood, Hill City and Mount Rushmore.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#35996 Sep 11, 2014
scirocco wrote:
Global Warming and the Feynman test
Modern climate fear-mongering is the latest example of the prostitution of science in the service of liberal ideology.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/09/global...
Good article. Now prepare for the onslaught of abuse, insults, etc.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#35997 Sep 11, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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An early September winter storm in the Black Hills has dumped up to 8 inches of snow in the area, while Rapid City received its earliest snowfall in more than 120 years.
A winter storm warning is in effect until noon Mountain time Thursday for the northern and central Black Hills including the cities of Lead, Deadwood, Hill City and Mount Rushmore.
must be more of that Glubull warming, right hysterics?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#35998 Sep 11, 2014
Just a few things about LessFactMoreHype:

*LessFact avoids, evades and ignores anything that proves him wrong, he simply moves on to another subject, looking for ways to attack someone else's point and do his best to insult them.
Conclusions are never reached when discussing anything with him.
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LessFact:
I am certainly bordering on being an intellectual
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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Nobody
GHGs are primarily anthropogenic
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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Nobody:
Yes. One subject is AGW. Anthropogenic global warming. Anthropogenic because it is primarily man made.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
..and you thought it was some sort of attraction. Fact is that he 'follows me around' because I make too much sense or maybe I am just more readable to the average reader. His only purpose is to take the 'punch' out of the argument by trivialities, distractions, deliberate misreading, mocking, etc..
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
I am not a scientist. I am a university educated engineer, who STARTED in the science but was found wanting.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/farmington-nm...
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
How much heat you are transferring at one time has NO relationship to the temperature of any objects.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
The north pole is often ice free.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/arboles-co/TK...
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
The Antarctic is showing the same decrease in ice VOLUME as the Arctic, but it is WINTER in the Antarctic. A time of no sun and therefore no impact from ice cover (which is only up a minuscule amount, while the thickness has more than halved.

Something that was predicted to happen for a decade or so by the IPCC and AGW theory. The summer extent (which IS relevant) is approximately the same.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
The north pole was ice free in 2000 so it is nothing new.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/arboles-co/TK...
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Thursday, October 28, 2010 - North Pole May Be Ice-Free for First Time This Summer
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/...
19 Jan 2011 – North Pole May Be Ice-Free for First Time This Summer
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Well, I did check the facts against my own education and validated them. Even though they are from well educated and peer reviewed scientists, there is always a small posibility that they are pushing their own biases. However, after validating what they say with what I know, I find their report credible. That is about FACT and the weight of the evidence, not belief.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Speaking of the past, once we know the outcome. You cannot state the outcome of the die throw until AFTER and you cannot state the outcome of the El-Nino until next year.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
I have no interest in reading the emails and data. Out of ALL that, there are only about three real 'zingers' which, on careful reading, don't really say what the clueless claim.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#35999 Sep 11, 2014
harmonious wrote:
<quoted text> where all those record setting hurricanes you and Al Snore predicted?
Fail hysteric
Plenty of evidence of an increase is the most severe storms. As to the number of storms..

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/21st-century-project...
"Earlier papers in this series (Knutson et al 2008; Zhao et al 2009) have suggested that the overall frequency of Atlantic hurricanes will not increase dramatically as the climate warms, and that, in fact, a decrease is more likely than an increase. In particular, these papers argue that the strong positive trend over the past 30 years in the overall frequency of Atlantic hurricanes should not simply be extrapolated into the future."

So fewer storms overall but an average of more very strong hurricanes. Got it yet???

No one year counts that much. It is the trend you have to look at.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#36000 Sep 11, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Plenty of evidence of an increase is the most severe storms. As to the number of storms..
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/21st-century-project...
"Earlier papers in this series (Knutson et al 2008; Zhao et al 2009) have suggested that the overall frequency of Atlantic hurricanes will not increase dramatically as the climate warms, and that, in fact, a decrease is more likely than an increase. In particular, these papers argue that the strong positive trend over the past 30 years in the overall frequency of Atlantic hurricanes should not simply be extrapolated into the future."
So fewer storms overall but an average of more very strong hurricanes. Got it yet???
No one year counts that much. It is the trend you have to look at.
now, see what all the hot air from you and Snore have done?

Warmer Air Caused Ice Shelf Collapse Off Antarctica
Warmer air triggered the collapse of a huge ice shelf off Antarctica in 2002, according to a report on Thursday that may help scientists predict future break-ups around the frozen continent. Antarctica is a key to sea level rise, which threatens coastal areas around the world. It has enough ice to…
Wochit

BTW, yur high priest Al Snore said they would increase.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#36001 Sep 12, 2014
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Plenty of evidence of an increase is the most severe storms. As to the number of storms..
But there isn't.
Believeing there are will not make it so, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/21st- century-projections-of-intense -hurricanes
"Earlier papers in this series (Knutson et al 2008; Zhao et al 2009) have suggested that the overall frequency of Atlantic hurricanes will not increase dramatically as the climate warms, and that, in fact, a decrease is more likely than an increase. In particular, these papers argue that the strong positive trend over the past 30 years in the overall frequency of Atlantic hurricanes should not simply be extrapolated into the future."
So fewer storms overall but an average of more very strong hurricanes. Got it yet???
No, because there is no mention of "an average of more very strong hurricanes" in that article.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
No one year counts that much. It is the trend you have to look at.
Why don't you look at "the trend" and see what's really happening, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?

That reminds me of another of the many LessFact fails:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
And no. Climate and weather are not 'linked' any more than the subject of gambling and a throw of the dice. Different concept levels entirely.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
My response:
1. Climate = average weather.
2. Climate change and weather are intertwined.
3. Changes in weather identify climate change.
4. Weather and climate are closely related.
http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/climate/faq/w...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#36002 Sep 12, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
Nice one from Brainless Brian, too.
Thank you.

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Captain Yesterday wrote:
In response to a comment about Denier propaganda concerning grant money, it replied thusly: "Yes indeed, skeptics point out the political ramifications of climate change mitigation are two sides of the same coin. OPEC wants to make fossil fuel use expensive, so do the environmentalists."
Well , you don't want to make fossil fuel use cheaper and more accessible. Face facts, you side with the fossil fuel suppliers who benefit from increasing the price of energy and fuel.

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Captain Yesterday wrote:
Sheer gibberish. Par for the course for Brainless, of course.
Blame your "science" and the complete lack of experimental tests for climate change mitigation.

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Captain Yesterday wrote:
The troll pretends to think that C02 increases are good for us. What can you say?
CO2 emission is essential to human survival. Don't hate carbon dioxide, we are our parent's carbon emissions.
litesong

Everett, WA

#36003 Sep 12, 2014
lippy ass wrote:
An early September winter storm in the Black Hills has dumped up to 8 inches of snow in the area, while Rapid City received its earliest snowfall in more than 120 years.
A winter storm warning is in effect until noon Mountain time Thursday for the northern and central Black Hills including the cities of Lead, Deadwood, Hill City and Mount Rushmore.
It is good that "lippy ass" reports effects of AGW, which is causing increased times & greater amounts of Arctic cold to move to the south.
Meanwhile other areas warm, such as Fairbanks, Alaska at 20degC(68degF).
LIbEralS

Minneapolis, MN

#36004 Sep 12, 2014
litesong wrote:
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It is good that "lippy ass" reports effects of AGW, which is causing increased times & greater amounts of Arctic cold to move to the south.
Meanwhile other areas warm, such as Fairbanks, Alaska at 20degC(68degF).
Oooh! Oooh! Weather different! Must prove global warming!
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#36005 Sep 12, 2014
harmonious wrote:
<quoted text> now, see what all the hot air from you and Snore have done?
Warmer Air Caused Ice Shelf Collapse Off Antarctica
Warmer air triggered the collapse of a huge ice shelf off Antarctica in 2002, according to a report on Thursday that may help scientists predict future break-ups around the frozen continent. Antarctica is a key to sea level rise, which threatens coastal areas around the world. It has enough ice to…
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Yes. Warmer AIR temperatures in SUMMER melted surface ice in the periphery causing hydraulic fracturing to break up the Larsen B ice shelf. That is one fact.

There is also the issue of warmer water undercutting the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, leading to greater flows and negative mass balance.

Then there are the stronger katabatic winds and more frequent snow (from higher precipitation) in the shore regions that are also less salty (easier to freeze) leading to a lower volume of winter sea ice but a greater area (about 1% or so depending whether later corrections (two thirds may be spurious) are correct.

And you are still clueless. Your tactic of posting some random reference and then making a stupid and unrelated claim is infantile at best.
harmonious wrote:
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BTW, yur high priest Al Snore said they would increase.
Al Gore made a documentary about what the SCIENCE was saying. Go to the source (if you aren't too senile to find it)
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#36006 Sep 12, 2014
harmonious wrote:
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must be more of that Glubull warming, right hysterics?
Technically it would be mostly weather (primary causation from proximate conditions),local climate (you don't get snow in the Sahara no matter what), and AGW driven climate change (weakening of the jet stream causing more arctic air to flow south to meet with northward flowing gulf humidity).

Now, that you k now, are you going to try to post something rational?
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#36007 Sep 12, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
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Oooh! Oooh! Weather different! Must prove global warming!
If the long term weather odds changes, it would be 'climate change'. You need to find the mechanism and validate that before you can trace it definitively to global warming, though common sense would argue that a major change in global average surface temperature (a major factor in driving climate processes) is VERY likely to be partly involved.

perhaps you can explain to me why the 'arguments' from the denialists tend to look like the whining of small children, without facts or clear reasoning.
Just The Facts

Minneapolis, MN

#36008 Sep 12, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
An early September winter storm in the Black Hills has dumped up to 8 inches of snow in the area, while Rapid City received its earliest snowfall in more than 120 years.
A winter storm warning is in effect until noon Mountain time Thursday for the northern and central Black Hills including the cities of Lead, Deadwood, Hill City and Mount Rushmore.
I hope you realize that this is "Undeniable" proof of CAGW.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#36009 Sep 12, 2014
litesong wrote:
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It is good that "lippy ass" reports effects of AGW, which is causing increased times & greater amounts of Arctic cold to move to the south.
Meanwhile other areas warm, such as Fairbanks, Alaska at 20degC(68degF).
Ice is good for ice skating and cold drinks, nothing else.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#36010 Sep 12, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Technically it would be mostly weather (primary causation from proximate conditions),local climate (you don't get snow in the Sahara no matter what), and AGW driven climate change (weakening of the jet stream causing more arctic air to flow south to meet with northward flowing gulf humidity).
Now, that you k now, are you going to try to post something rational?
I've found posting rational to irrational hysterics, like you, don't have any effect.

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