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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35608 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#34588 Jun 13, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
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There was no need for the second demonstration of your limited intellect. It was quite apparent from the onset. But thank you for trying. I'm sure that it was the best that you could do.
You jump to conclusions about pure strangers to you ananomously?

Failed both tests, huh? Keep at learning. Some day you get it!

Good luck.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#34589 Jun 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You jump to conclusions about pure strangers to you ananomously?
Failed both tests, huh? Keep at learning. Some day you get it!
Good luck.
I'm sure you wow them at the grade school playground. LOL
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#34590 Jun 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You jump to conclusions about pure strangers to you ananomously?
Failed both tests, huh? Keep at learning. Some day you get it!
Good luck.
Funny .. you task strangers to take tests in some childish endeavor but cannot even spell "Anonymously" correctly.

There was no need for you to demonstrate you absolute stupidity,.... but I'm sure you cannot help yourself. Hahahahaha Thanks for the laugh!
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#34591 Jun 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You jump to conclusions about pure strangers to you ananomously?
Failed both tests, huh? Keep at learning. Some day you get it!
Good luck.
Read my last post and you will see it wasn't much of a jump. Appears I was right on the mark.
litesong

Everett, WA

#34592 Jun 13, 2014
aflact wrote:
THE GREENHOUSE GAS EFFECT IS BOGUS
CARBON DIOXIDE (CO2)- COOLS THE EARTH!
Old stuff that is wrong. Of course, the guy with the economics degree overthrows man-made non-phase change, GHG infra-red energy absorbing AGW every time.......NOT!
keep it simple

Springfield, OH

#34593 Jun 13, 2014
A lot of the reason liberals like Al Gore lit the global warming flame is because, in general, the average Joe living on planet Earth, are frickin' idiots.

"Man-enhanced global climate change" is a product of an international socialist-liberal conspiracy. Liberal-socialists from the UN on down are hell bent on Robin Hood politics of redistributing the world's wealth from 1st world to 3rd world nations, including red china.

When I was a kid in the 70's our family lived on a small farm. We had cistern (rain) water. We stirred non-meat kitchen scraps, vaccum cleaner bag dirt, yard debris into horse manure and made excellent compost for our vegetable garden. We had a great understanding of the importance of erosion prevention and the need for contour plowing. Our family was "green" during a time when "green" was still a color in a box of Crayolas...a time decades before today's senseless, brainwashing "man-made global warming" agenda that's being sold by the world's liberal-socialists.

Be "green" not because of a political agenda!
Be "green" because it's the COMMON SENSE thing to do!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#34594 Jun 13, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
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Funny .. you task strangers to take tests in some childish endeavor but cannot even spell "Anonymously" correctly.
There was no need for you to demonstrate you[sic] absolute stupidity,.... but I'm sure you cannot help yourself. Hahahahaha Thanks for the laugh!
Hahahaha thanks for the laugh.

You can't even spell an essential word, your. Your, pay attention, mistake is more than a typo that I made, it happens in English now and then, but yours is a grammar error.

Good luck.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#34595 Jun 13, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Old stuff that is wrong. Of course, the guy with the economics degree overthrows man-made non-phase change, GHG infra-red energy absorbing AGW every time.......NOT!
Dimwit

http://www.google.com/url...

Written by:
Terri Jackson Bsc Msc MPhil(econ) founder of energy group at Institute of Physics,

But I'm sure your lofty Topix credentials far out weigh his. LOL

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#34596 Jun 13, 2014
Captain Yesterday wrote:
Thanks for displaying for us what a dumbass you are, Brian.:)
No thanks to CPT Y. for ad hominem irrationality and vulgarity quoted above.

No amount of whining about CO2 emissions or calling opponents names will produce experimental data required to evaluate climate change mitigation. The scientific method defines good science, not consensus or proxies.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#34597 Jun 13, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Read my last post and you will see it wasn't much of a jump. Appears I was right on the mark.
Read my last post, LOL. You are still jumping from YOUR absolute stupidity platform.

Good luck in free lessons by pure strangers.
Capt Crunch

Surprise, AZ

#34598 Jun 13, 2014
Even a so-called uneducated person is moved to laughter at the sight of the self described highly educated posters on this thread stating ,with a high degree of certitude, that they know the reasons for something as complex as climate change. In fact, they are merely repeating the thoughts of someone else, who may have ulterior motives for for their determinations.
I was once reminded by a wise man the education is like peeling an infinitely layered onion, where on every layer peeled merely revealed another more complex question, which required more peeling of the onion, and that anyone who states that he has found the final solution is either a fool or a charlatan.
So, listen up, you educated fools, there is still more to learn
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#34599 Jun 13, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>No thanks to CPT Y. for ad hominem irrationality and vulgarity quoted above.
No amount of whining about CO2 emissions or calling opponents names will produce experimental data required to evaluate climate change mitigation. The scientific method defines good science, not consensus or proxies.
Notice your denier buddies for the same.

You don't represent science. What you post is mere fossil fuel-based propaganda to discredit science.

Science is science, not a judgment by you. Leave science to scientists.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#34600 Jun 13, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Dimwit
http://www.google.com/url...
Written by:
Terri Jackson Bsc Msc MPhil(econ) founder of energy group at Institute of Physics,
But I'm sure your lofty Topix credentials far out weigh his. LOL
hahahaha they say: The Institute of Physics has a fascinating and diverse membership that ranges from students through qualified professionals in all disciplines to the still interested and involved retired community.

Remember it's not "The American Institute of Physics (AIP) promotes science, the profession of physics, publishes physics journals, and produces publications for scientific and engineering societies."

If you can't find scientists, then ...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#34601 Jun 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Notice your denier buddies for the same.
S.B. misuses the word "denier" because he wants to denigrate the memory of the Shoah for the sake of political goals.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
You don't represent science. What you post is mere fossil fuel-based propaganda to discredit science.
I post for experimental tests; without them we're talking pipe-dreams, not science. There's never been an example, sample, demonstration or experiment showing the climate change mitigation is possible, let alone affordable. For all we know, it might only cost more than the problem we want to solve, it could make the climate worse, not better.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
Science is science, not a judgment by you. Leave science to scientists.
Experiments are science, climate tax isn't.

The left wants to fix the climate the way it is now, to avoid future climate change and I'm willing to leave climate to forces greater than myself; this is where we differ.
SpaceBlues

United States

#34602 Jun 13, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>S.B. misuses the word "denier" because he wants to denigrate the memory of the Shoah for the sake of political goals.
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<quoted text>I post for experimental tests; without them we're talking pipe-dreams, not science. There's never been an example, sample, demonstration or experiment showing the climate change mitigation is possible, let alone affordable. For all we know, it might only cost more than the problem we want to solve, it could make the climate worse, not better.
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<quoted text>Experiments are science, climate tax isn't.
The left wants to fix the climate the way it is now, to avoid future climate change and I'm willing to leave climate to forces greater than myself; this is where we differ.
Blah blah you are dismissed!

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#34603 Jun 13, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>
Dimwit
http://www.google.com/url...
Written by:
Terri Jackson Bsc Msc MPhil(econ) founder of energy group at Institute of Physics,
But I'm sure your lofty Topix credentials far out weigh his. LOL
You can tell your arguments are dumb when even the few AGW sceptical scientists distance themselves from them.

Skeptical Arguments that Don’t Hold Water

4. CO2 COOLS, NOT WARMS, THE ATMOSPHERE. This one is a little more subtle because the net effect of greenhouse gases is to cool the upper atmosphere, and warm the lower atmosphere, compared to if no greenhouse gases were present. Since any IR absorber is also an IR emitter, a CO2 molecule can both cool and warm, because it both absorbs and emits IR photons.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/04/skeptical...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#34604 Jun 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Blah blah you are dismissed!
You don't engage the argument. Why not offer examples if you think skeptics use name-calling as often as warmists? What do you think of this climate McCarthyism?

"...
Rossiter told Climate Depot:
"If people ever say that fears of censorship for 'climate change' views are overblown, have them take a look at this: Just two days after I published a piece in the Wall Street Journal calling for Africa to be allowed the 'all of the above' energy strategy we have in the U.S., the Institute for Policy Studies terminated my 23-year relationship with them…because my analysis and theirs 'diverge.'"
...."
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/201...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#34605 Jun 14, 2014
Two more idiots humiliate themselves.
Patriot wrote:
Study: West Antarctic Glacier Melt Due To Volcanoes, Not Global Warming
11 Jun 2014
Read more at TLR: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/study-west-...
Aphelion wrote:
A new study by researchers at the University of Texas, Austin found that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is collapsing due to geothermal heat, not man-made global warming.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/06/04/...
Fair Game wrote:
Whack a mole.
First mothra:
<quoted text>
Then LIbEralS:
<quoted text>
Now ritedownthemiddle.
Don't you deniers ever check your sources?
Don't you care about the humiliation of repeating obvious foolishness written by idiots?
It certainly makes you look like idiots too.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#34606 Jun 14, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
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They would have to produce a successful lab test proving the "Greenhouse Gas Effect" which does not exist.
Papers on laboratory measurements of CO2 absorption properties

Posted by Ari Jokimäki on September 25, 2009

This is a list of papers on laboratory measurements of the absorption properties of carbon dioxide. In the context of these paperlists this is a difficult subject because only few of the papers are freely available online, so we have to settle on abstracts only (of course, interested reader can purchase the full texts for the papers from the linked abstract pages). However, I don’t think that matters that much because the main point of this list really is to show that the basic research on the subject exists. The list is not complete, and will most likely be updated in the future in order to make it more thorough and more representative.

http://agwobserver.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/p...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#34607 Jun 14, 2014
Nobody disputes CO2 can absorb and emit IR light, just that nobody has ever experimentally tested that effect on climate. Climate change is climate's normal state.

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