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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 34463 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#33854 May 16, 2014
Beth wrote:
Climate change that "WILL" cause ocean rise in 200 years. LOL
Nope. Climate change that will cause oceans to rise FOR 200 years.
Beth

Saint Paul, MN

#33855 May 16, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Nope. Climate change that will cause oceans to rise FOR 200 years.
Remember how long 200 years is. 200 years ago there were NO automobiles, NO airplanes, NO electricity, NO computers, NO light bulbs, NO oil burning things, NO NG burning items, NO petro burning ships, not much of anything. So when you say over the next 200 years the oceans will rise what does that mean to planet earth? IMHO in 200 years much will change on good old earth with a good possibility of mankind being exterminated by a meteor hit or sickness. In 200 years mankind may continue to exist and posses technology to alter earths atmosphere to make it live able to the maximum degree possible. How many inhabited areas of earth are now below sea level? Holland and New Orleans are below sea level and are happy as clams, except when a hurricane hits. All I know is when I place an ice cube in a glass of water the level rises right a way and doesn't wait 200 years. So I have a difficult time understanding why when a chunk of ice ends up the the ocean it takes 200 years for the oceans to rise to the event.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#33856 May 16, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Stabilize, destabilize; when it comes to climate there's no difference since we can't make it change in any demonstrable, reproducible or measurable way.
If you know of experimental tests for climate change mitigation, please cite.
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<quoted text>We've known the effect of CO2 since 1890; but still no experimental tests.
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<quoted text>That's my hobby, irreversibly melting Antarctica. Want to watch?
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<quoted text>There's gold under all that ice. New trade routes and summer homes. Welcome to Obamaville.
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<quoted text>I won't let modesty stop me from admitting; I was rooting for warming climes since I was chapped and burned by the cold last ice age.
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<quoted text>I agree, wait for the last glacier to melt, the last ice field to disappears into a brilliant summer day. Celebrate when the last snowfield on the highest mountain evaporates into the longest day of the year.
We're going to need more than one band.
You'll be extinct before the cock roaches throw it in as the last remaining species to live on the dying planet Earth.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#33857 May 16, 2014
frontporchreactionary wrote:
You'll be extinct before the cock roaches throw it in as the last remaining species to live on the dying planet Earth.
Probably true but one thing is certain: we have no more control over climate than cockroaches can control climate.

Enjoy it while it lasts; emit greenhouse gas today because you can't when you're dead and you'll be dead far longer than you've lived.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#33858 May 16, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Nope. Climate change that will cause oceans to rise FOR 200 years.
Nope. More than 200 years.

What these deniers don't see is the nonuniformity of it all. Also, the sea-level rise will be more poleward just like the shifting hurricanes, etc.
litesong

Everett, WA

#33859 May 16, 2014
[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]That's my hobby, irreversibly melting Antarctica. Want to watch?[/QUOTE]

Another "lyin' brian" hobby:
Watching, as it flies over Greenland & irreversibly NOT seeing the Greenland Ice Sheet melt away, because it has no science equipment, binoculars, science data or science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc in a poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#33860 May 16, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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That was east of the Rockies.
Less than 3% of the globe.
Global is the base word for global, as in GLOBAL warming.
Note for the mathematically challenged and those who never grasped the concept of percentages...3% does not equal 100%.
Idiot!
Buffoon!!!

Skeptical Scientists Debunk White House Global Warming Report
A group of 15 scientists and meteorologists have put forward a scathing rebuttal to the Obama administration’s recent climate report which said the U.S. is already being harmed by global warming. Scientists skeptical that mankind is causing the Earth’s climate to change say that such claims are…
The Daily Caller from RSS

A group of 15 scientists and meteorologists have put forward a scathing rebuttal to the Obama administration’s recent climate report which said the U.S. is already being harmed by global warming.

Scientists skeptical that mankind is causing the Earth’s climate to change say that such claims are based on false theories and flawed models. The White House report is a “masterpiece of marketing” that is trying to scare people into action, scientists said.

“As independent scientists, we know that apparent evidence of ‘Climate Change,’ however scary, is not proof of anything,” wrote the 15 scientists and meteorologists,including Dr. Don Easterbrook of Western Washington University and Dr. George Wolff, who formerly chaired the Environmental Protection Agency’s Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee.

“Science derives its objectivity from robust logic and honest evidence repeatedly tested by all knowledgeable scientists, not just those paid to support the administration’s version of ‘Global Warming,’‘Climate Change,’‘Climate Disruption,’ or whatever their marketing specialists call it today,” they continued.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/16/skeptical-s...

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#33861 May 16, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
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Well, the journal says the paper was rejected because it was full of errors.
Deniers are shouting conspiracy again? It seems to be a habit.
"Among American Conservatives, but not Liberals, trust in science has been declining since the 1970's. Climate science has become particularly polarized, with Conservatives being more likely than Liberals to reject the notion that greenhouse gas emissions are warming the globe. There are also growing indications that rejection of science is suffused by conspiracist ideation, that is the general tendency to endorse conspiracy theories including the specific beliefs that inconvenient scientific findings constitute a “hoax.”"
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F1...
scientists have lied to us over and over,they're no different than accountants or truck drivers.

Need proof? Here are some of the hilarious, spectacularly wrong predictions made on the occasion of Earth Day 1970.

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Stanford's Paul Ehrlich announces that the sky is falling.
Stanford's Paul Ehrlich announces that the sky is falling

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say,`Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say,`I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

there's more but you get the idea

The irony is that today's nanny state ninnies are as stupid and ignorant today as they were in 1970, they never change.

Hysterical, lying fools then, hysterical lying fools now.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#33862 May 16, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
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Severe drought with amplified effects because of too intensive agricultural practices as all reports say
<quoted text>
Sun poor activity plus volcanic activity https://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/news/6338/stu...
<quoted text>
This is your theory, it doesn't let any place to doubt, therefore unscientific.
At the little ice age times, the world population was under 700 millions, with mainly handcrafted industry and agriculture, animal and windmill or dammill and woodcoal powered and now population has grown ten times more with massive industry and agriculture, fossil fuel powered.
<quoted text>
You're funny trying to scare with global cooling.
Watch out, some peoples here hate climate alarmists.
I'm not trying to scare anyone, chicken little alarmists are. Do you deny "Scientists" have said the earth could have another ice age?

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#33863 May 16, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Severe drought with amplified effects because of too intensive agricultural practices as all reports say
<quoted text>
Sun poor activity plus volcanic activity https://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/news/6338/stu...
<quoted text>
This is your theory, it doesn't let any place to doubt, therefore unscientific.
At the little ice age times, the world population was under 700 millions, with mainly handcrafted industry and agriculture, animal and windmill or dammill and woodcoal powered and now population has grown ten times more with massive industry and agriculture, fossil fuel powered.
<quoted text>
You're funny trying to scare with global cooling.
Watch out, some peoples here hate climate alarmists.
severe drought caused by who or what? Us?

Yes, sun activity and volcanoes, not SUV's.

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#33864 May 16, 2014
more

"But the 15 skeptical scientists said the White House is trying to lay the blame for global warming at the feet of the fossil fuels industry when there is little evidence to back up that claim. The Earth’s climate is very cyclical and has gone through many changes in the past, the scientists said, without humans emitting carbon dioxide.

“This NCA is so grossly flawed it should play no role in U.S. Energy Policy Analyses and CO2 regulatory processes,” the skeptics wrote.“As this rebuttal makes clear, the NCA provides no scientific basis whatsoever for regulating CO2 emissions.”

“We are asked to believe that humans are drastically changing the earth’s climate by burning fossil fuels,” they added.“The problem with their theory is very simple: It is NOT true.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/16/skeptical-s...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#33865 May 16, 2014
harmonious wrote:
more
"But the 15 skeptical scientists said the White House is trying to lay the blame for global warming at the feet of the fossil fuels industry when there is little evidence to back up that claim. The Earth’s climate is very cyclical and has gone through many changes in the past, the scientists said, without humans emitting carbon dioxide.
“This NCA is so grossly flawed it should play no role in U.S. Energy Policy Analyses and CO2 regulatory processes,” the skeptics wrote.“As this rebuttal makes clear, the NCA provides no scientific basis whatsoever for regulating CO2 emissions.”
“We are asked to believe that humans are drastically changing the earth’s climate by burning fossil fuels,” they added.“The problem with their theory is very simple: It is NOT true.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/16/skeptical-s...
Don Easterbrook? Easterbrook has a history of being wrong on global warming.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Easterbr...

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#33866 May 17, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
do you support population control or genocide in general?
I do support self wanted demographic control through education.
Genocide is your obsession, NOT MINE !

[QUOTE who="ritedownthemiddle "]or do you have a better idea about feeding, housing, and clothing the planet without the use of fossil fuels?
First try not to waste 30% world produced food as now would be a real challenge
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“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#33867 May 17, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
First try not to waste 30% world produced food as now would be a real challenge.
We use refrigeration and plastic packaging to preserve fuel, those require fossil fuel and you're trying to make energy more expensive for everyone.

Blame the left for burning grain alcohol as fuel instead of feeding people.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#33868 May 17, 2014
All I want is to remove as much government as possible, from my life.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#33869 May 17, 2014
harmonious wrote:
I'm not trying to scare anyone, chicken little alarmists are. Do you deny "Scientists" have said the earth could have another ice age?
Following Milankovitch cycles, we should be bound for ice age, and polar icecaps should grow now with climate cooling . So that it would be rather an argument for Men having become among climatic forcings.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#33871 May 17, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
We use refrigeration and plastic packaging to preserve fuel, those require fossil fuel and you're trying to make energy more expensive for everyone.
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I have no power on oil price, go sing your fossile energy bluegrass to somebody else
Brian_G wrote:
Blame the left for burning grain alcohol as fuel instead of feeding people
Grain alcohol people feeding may turn it drunk people, doesn't it ?
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#33872 May 17, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
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Don Easterbrook? Easterbrook has a history of being wrong on global warming.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Easterbr...
As if an argument about someone else's past performance is a measure.

I know, I know... warmists never hold themselves accountable to anything... but do so for skeptics.

If it weren't for doubles standards, warmists would have none.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#33873 May 17, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
As if an argument about someone else's past performance is a measure.
In science, the success or failure of predictions is a prime measure of the validity of a theory.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Pred...

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#33874 May 17, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
First try not to waste 30% world produced food as now would be a real challenge
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more food would go to waste without fossil fuels.

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