Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 37504 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#32266 Mar 13, 2014
onlinebiker wrote:
Fact - the climate is ALWAYS cooling, or warming. That's the natural state.
Within a very narrow range if you consider the SURFACE and not just the air temp at 2 meters.

But your logic is that cars go faster and slower all the time so stepping on the gas pedal has nothing to do with it.. by which analogy I wish to point out that you are a total dimwit.

The current warming is out of normal bounds and we are responsible.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#32267 Mar 13, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
There are no experiments that show how to mitigate climate change.
Wait for a peer reviewed test, trial or demonstration before buying in.
We've heard it all before. You are such a retard. Ask scientists if we can moderate AGW and thus climate change by reducing GHGs, then act upon their knowledge, not your hysteria.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#32270 Mar 13, 2014
Will Milady be requiring tea & crumpets, with her other demands ???

LMAO !

Sure, whatever you'd like, child.

Shall we wipe for you, too ??

Poor baby, if we jumped thru your hoops, what do we get except the lazy noise you've "contributed" all along ???

LMAO !

Go learn to knit, broke tea twit...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#32290 Mar 14, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
We've heard it all before. You are such a retard. Ask scientists if we can moderate AGW and thus climate change by reducing GHGs, then act upon their knowledge, not your hysteria.
There's never been an experiment that's tested the effect of man made GHGs on climate change. That's how you can tell it's a hoax.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#32291 Mar 14, 2014
Ergo wrote:
There are no experiments that show Brain Gone has a brain.. Wait for an autopsy, trial or demonstration of intelligence, before buying in.
^^^This type of argument is called the ad hominem fallacy. It is a mark of irrationality.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#32292 Mar 14, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^This type of argument is called the ad hominem fallacy. It is a mark of irrationality.
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."

Would you call Thomas Jefferson itational?

Read more: http://www.atheistrev.com/2010/09/words-of-wi...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#32293 Mar 14, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>There's never been an experiment that's tested the effect of man made GHGs on climate change. That's how you can tell it's a hoax.
Certainly an unintelligible proposition, deserving only ridicule.
LIbEralS

Minneapolis, MN

#32294 Mar 14, 2014
Drink the Kool-Aid or else!

Lawrence Torcello - assistant professor of philosophy at Rochester Institute of Technology, NY - Climate scientists who fail to communicate the correct message about "global warming" should face trial for "criminal negligence".

https://theconversation.com/is-misinformation...

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#32295 Mar 14, 2014
New dinosaur found in Northern Canada

New dinosaur, cousin of T. Rex, discovered in Arctic

"Even though the Arctic was much warmer and more heavily forested in the Cretaceous period than it is now,...."

"But the Arctic was much warmer, and the area was covered in tall, conifer forests and flowering plants. The temperature would have been similar to western Canada today."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/new-dinosau...

__________

Imagine that, northern Canada was warmer long ago and the climate changed. Oh my, what are we going to do because climate changes and the earth has seen many changes before?....LOL

In Newfoundland Canada, on the northern peninsula of Newfoundland, Vikings landed around 1000-1100 A.D. Vikings grew vineyards/grapes back then meaning the weather was warmer because the local climate of Newfoundland is far from ideal to grow them today even in it's summer months. So again, a natural change.

Stop the hysteria.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32296 Mar 14, 2014
LOL. Can you locate the US on a map today? Have you seen the world map for the Cretaceous period?

Where's England? Egypt? Italy? The poles?
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#32298 Mar 14, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>By how much is it out of bounds due to human emissions?
One C of warming roughly. This doesn't sound like a lot but it is a MASSIVE change to the system. The ice ages were only -3C to -5C globally. One degree is a major change to climate systems.
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
by how much will mitigation change climatic cycles?
This much depends on how effectively we reduce the forcings. However, there is an old saying. If it hurts when you do this, stop doing this..
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
if you have no idea......you really have no basis for your assertion.
your beliefs and opinions are fine, son, just as long as you understand they belong to you and only you.
The only one who is without a basis for action or an idea of what he is talking about is you.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#32299 Mar 14, 2014
Naturally Wired wrote:
Imagine that, northern Canada was warmer long ago and the climate changed.
Rather, the continental block that is NOW Canada was in a location and climate that was much warmer than the arctic circle. Party due to very high levels of GHG's. Partly due to continental drift.
Naturally Wired wrote:
the climate changed. Oh my, what are we going to do because climate changes and the earth has seen many changes before?....LOL
Over hundreds of millions of years, just about everything changes. Not relevant to AGW which is occuring in the space of a century. Much faster than any of the processes that lead to climate changes over the eons.
Naturally Wired wrote:
In Newfoundland Canada, on the northern peninsula of Newfoundland, Vikings landed around 1000-1100 A.D. Vikings grew vineyards/grapes back then meaning the weather was warmer .
You are confused. While they had a base in Newfoundland (Aux Meadows) they travelled southward to 'Vinland' for concord grapes. Might have been Virginia or even Georgia. You are that most dangerous of fools, the half educated one.
Naturally Wired wrote:
Stop the hysteria.
Please. Stop posting so that your hysteria is not public at least. And get educated on the subject. Some real understanding might quiet those voices in your head.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32301 Mar 14, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>it doesn't sound like a lot because it isn't in historical or actual terms......in spite of your use of caps to emphasize it is.
btw....if the ice age is going to be your bench mark get ready for a global facial, son.
lol
who is hurting, son? not me!! nor are most self sufficient people i know.
there's also another saying....."inaction is the best enabler of flexibility". you jumped into a pool of concrete with boots on and insisted everyone else do the same. i'll wait awhile and check back with you later in spite of your insistence.
Do some learning if you can:

A one-degree global change is significant because it takes a vast amount of heat to warm all the oceans, atmosphere, and land by that much. In the past, a one- to two-degree drop was all it took to plunge the Earth into the Little Ice Age. A five-degree drop was enough to bury a large part of North America under a towering mass of ice 20,000 years ago.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Wor...
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#32302 Mar 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Do some learning if you can:
A one-degree global change is significant because it takes a vast amount of heat to warm all the oceans, atmosphere, and land by that much. In the past, a one- to two-degree drop was all it took to plunge the Earth into the Little Ice Age. A five-degree drop was enough to bury a large part of North America under a towering mass of ice 20,000 years ago.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Wor...
Hey SpaceBlue. Did you see this effect?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/glo...

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#32305 Mar 15, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>
you are deliriously dimwitted.
Dad used to tell me that all the time.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#32306 Mar 15, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, spaced blues, read that entire article and tell us what it confirms!!!
LOL
It confirms that even a one C warming of today will trigger major changes to climate dynamics. What did YOU think it meant? Oh, and you do understand that the lowering of salinity from meltwater is due to AGW?
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
you people are deliriously dimwitted.
From you, insults are simply to be expected as you cannot articulate a rational argument.
SpaceBlues

United States

#32307 Mar 15, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>always have a problem with comprehension, doncha?
i said in historical terms!!
and of that "massive" change.....can you quantify how much is man made induced beyond natural variabilities, son?
go ahead and lie!
hahaha

Let me help you a little.

"In the past" was in my post instead of your "historical" because history specifically refers to the study of the past as it relates to humans. Furthermore, if you read my link, you find there:

"the preponderance of evidence says it’s humans—thermometer readings all around the world have risen steadily since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution."

So, that's in historical terms and man-made.

As to your own words, "man-made induced beyond natural variabilities," are you fibbing again? LOL

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#32308 Mar 15, 2014
Just hurts my pocketbook that the earth is really not warming after all. Bummer.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#32309 Mar 15, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Rather, the continental block that is NOW Canada was in a location and climate that was much warmer than the arctic circle. Party due to very high levels of GHG's. Partly due to continental drift.
<quoted text>
Over hundreds of millions of years, just about everything changes. Not relevant to AGW which is occuring in the space of a century. Much faster than any of the processes that lead to climate changes over the eons.
<quoted text>
You are confused. While they had a base in Newfoundland (Aux Meadows) they travelled southward to 'Vinland' for concord grapes. Might have been Virginia or even Georgia. You are that most dangerous of fools, the half educated one.
<quoted text>
Please. Stop posting so that your hysteria is not public at least. And get educated on the subject. Some real understanding might quiet those voices in your head.
Piss off topix blowhard. The earth has been through changes before, climate has changed before. You freaks are paranoid over something that has happened before. I hope they put a fracking operation right on your front lawn, you Torontonian baboon.

Don't try to "educate" me on Newfoundland and any of it's history either.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#32315 Mar 15, 2014
Naturally Wired wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't try to "educate" me on Newfoundland and any of it's history either.
I'm sure you are uneducated and uneducatable. But I post for those who can learn or check the facts.

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