Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 39148 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32031 Mar 1, 2014
harmonious wrote:
Why did they go there? To prove there was less ice, boy did they look stupid.
Satellite watch is enough to measure ice extension and thickness. Maybe some wanted to watch local fauna's health, planctonic concentration, subsurface sea temperature, salinity, UV level

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#32032 Mar 1, 2014
harmonious wrote:
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none of you hysterical shreikers know anything, you parrot the propaganda and lies from the money grubbers on the AGW gravy train.
LOL.

This from a moron who thinks cutting and pasting a Google search page constitutes some form of reasoned response: you'd embarrass a reasonable well educated 10 year old.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32033 Mar 1, 2014
harmonious wrote:
UP continues to shiver, Lucknow records season's coldest day ...
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Jan 14, 2014 - HomeNewsNationalUP continues to shiver, Lucknow records season's ... Lucknow, The Uttar Pradesh continued to shiver in the intense cold ...
Uttar Pradesh has common boarder with Nepal, one state of Himalaya, not renowned for warm winter temperatures.
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#32035 Mar 1, 2014
Reality wrote:
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Facts are "mis-information"? Fascinating.
Opinions are not always a "fact".
There is no such thing as a "global average temperature" (gat) fact.

An estimate of the "gat" is just that... an estimate.
Not to be confused with a "fact"... by reasonably intelligent people.

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dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#32036 Mar 1, 2014
Ok... So we are now enjoying the beginning of March.

In Minneapolis the low temperature reached 13 below ZERO F.

QUESTION:
How much colder would it have been if the level of CO2 in the air was 100ppm LESS?
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#32037 Mar 1, 2014
Yes, some people have judged me clueless because I asked a question. Those same people have not offered an answer so are they equally "clueless" or do they know the answer?

Yes yes I know... This too makes me clueless :-)

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32039 Mar 2, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
They way they push Global Warming is fanatical. It is cult like religion to these idiots. And it is impossible to prove that it is happening or it is man made.
No go be a good little Socialist Liberal and do whatever the Government tells you.
Because I'm not a fanatic, much less than you are, I'm much more solarian than IPCC scientists and much more documented as you are.

Taking Sun in account http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/ssn_...
I believe that Sun action is amplifyed by Methane Chlarates which trap Methane with low solar activity and low Siberian and Canadian temperatures and release Methan with higher solar activity and higher temperature.
So that I'm not impressed by local temperatures and meteorologic variations

That's foreign language for the Cepanoos* which want to blind their eyes at men action on Nature

*from french "c'est pas nous" = "i'ts not us"

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32040 Mar 2, 2014
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
Opinions are not always a "fact".
There is no such thing as a "global average temperature" (gat) fact.
An estimate of the "gat" is just that... an estimate.
Not to be confused with a "fact"... by reasonably intelligent people.
There is nothing as a global temperature, Correct.
But there is an ensemble of meteorological datas, among them temperature,
It's highly probable that if this ensemble registers trend to warming, then the planet should be on warming trend.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32041 Mar 2, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
They way they push Global Warming is fanatical. It is cult like religion to these idiots. And it is impossible to prove that it is happening or it is man made.
No go be a good little Socialist Liberal and do whatever the Government tells you.
I don't know what's fanatical or idiot in such report http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/q/0/Pap...
So that I believe that fanatism is on your side

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32042 Mar 2, 2014
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
It is getting colder as the evidence shows:
It was so cold that even the BBC was forced to ask, what happened to global warming? As Climategate would reveal, IPCC scientists had been hard at work hiding evidence of global cooling.
2009 was another year of global cooling, which saw numerous low temperature and high snowfall records smashed.
To my opinion; that may be related with the 11 years solar cycle minimum
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
Global land and ocean annual surface temperatures through December tied with 2006 as the fifth warmest on record, at 0.56C (1.01F) above the 20th century average.
The 2000-2009 decade is the warmest on record, with an average global surface temperature of 0.54C (0.96F) above the 20th century average. This shattered the 1990s value of 0.36C (0.65F).
The observational evidence cannot be ignored. It is getting colder.
Personnaly, I bet that the long period of solar inaction
cannot have no effect on Earth meteo. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-2...
If so, as the Sun is to reach its maximum soon, we may experience some warmer years soon too. My uncertaincies rely on the delay bitwin Sun action and Earth climate feed-back.

Nevertheless, high rise of CO2 rejection tend to rise atmospheric warming, denying it is denial of basic physical laws

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32043 Mar 2, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
No go be a good little Socialist Liberal and do whatever the Government tells you.
Who me ?
You're in a political full delire
I'm a free-lance
Only peoples I admit as smarter than me in some domain can give me orders
litesong

Everett, WA

#32044 Mar 2, 2014
drink the KKK-aid wrote:
....2009 was another year of global cooling, which saw numerous low temperature and high snowfall records smashed.
Of course not! AGW enhanced warm fronts shoved hard into the North Pole region, causing subsequent high temperatures. The AGW enhanced energy shoved cold Arctic air to the south, onto human populated areas, often setting records. Maine set its all-time recorded low temperature of -50degF. The AGW enhanced warm fronts continued to shove the cold Arctic air to southern U.S., then into Mexico & finally into Central America. AGW enhanced warm fronts sent cold Arctic air into China, then southern China, into India, Iran, Iraq, & even into Northern Africa. All the time, cold temperature records were set.
litesong

Everett, WA

#32045 Mar 2, 2014
harm on us wrote:
when can the freezing people of America count on warming to warm them up?
People of America can expect AGW enhanced warm fronts to chill them & snow on them. AGW enhanced warm fronts shoved hard into the North Pole region, causing subsequent high temperatures. The AGW enhanced energy shoved cold Arctic air to the south strongly, onto human populated areas, often setting records. Maine set its all-time recorded low temperature of -50degF. The AGW enhanced warm fronts continued to shove the cold Arctic air to southern U.S., then into Mexico & finally into Central America. AGW enhanced warm fronts sent cold Arctic air into China, then southern China, into India, Iran, Iraq, & even into Northern Africa. All the time, cold temperature records were set.
litesong

Everett, WA

#32046 Mar 2, 2014
harm on us wrote:
Why did they go there? To prove there was less ice.....
Of course not! AGW scientists predicted in 2002, re-confirmed in 2005 & silly touched touchy toxic topix AGW deniers keep asserting, that Antarctic sea ice would increase. silly touched touchy toxic topix AGW deniers keep thinking they disprove AGW, when AGW predicted what silly touched touchy toxic topix AGW deniers think is true, now.

I love silly touched touchy toxic topix AGW deniers to be uneducated in science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32047 Mar 2, 2014
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
Yes, some people have judged me clueless because I asked a question. Those same people have not offered an answer so are they equally "clueless" or do they know the answer?
Yes yes I know... This too makes me clueless :-)
The question was "How much colder would it have been if the level of CO2 in the air was 100ppm LESS? "
You have low temperature because vortex brings you cold from air high troposphere, mainly at night, because without sun heating lower atmospheric gaz shinks.
Without sun or soil infrared radiation you can add or substract as much CO2 as you want, temperature at sunrise would have the same temperature.

Daylight temperatures should be warmer with higher CO2 level, depending on the soil albedo

“HHhhhoooowwwlll”

Since: Feb 08

Craigville

#32048 Mar 2, 2014
Our super scientists at work:

http://www.sciencerecorder.com/news/fraud-100...

Faulty wiring finally revealed

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#32050 Mar 2, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
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Uttar Pradesh has common boarder with Nepal, one state of Himalaya, not renowned for warm winter temperatures.
Globull warming ? I scoff.

Spectacular photographs show the moment Niagara Falls FROZE...
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www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Spectacular-phot...&a... ;
Daily Mail
Jan 8, 2014
The record-breaking chill across the U.S. and Canada was so frigid it literally stopped Niagara Falls in its ...

“you know i know”

Since: Oct 07

denver

#32051 Mar 2, 2014
Hysterical warmers are so gullible[and dumb]

Massive storm system takes aim at winter-weary Midwest, East

NEW YORK (Reuters)- A massive winter storm system packing cold air, snow and freezing rain was pummeling the central United States on Sunday and headed for the East Coast, sending temperatures plummeting and causing major delays for weekend travelers.

Rainfall and snow associated with the system will stretch over 1,500 miles, from southeastern Colorado to southern Massachusetts, meteorologists said.

The storm "is going to be a real mess," said Bruce Sullivan, a senior meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Silver Spring, Maryland.

"The main system is injecting a lot of moisture and cold air out over the Southern Plains," he said. "It's going to bring quite a bit of precipitation."

Heavy snow could fall on
litesong

Everett, WA

#32052 Mar 2, 2014
[QUOTE who="ratdownthemiddle ","middleofthedownwr onggully"]http://www.bizp acreview.com/2014/02/28/greenp eace-co-founder-demolishes-lib erals-cult-like-agenda-on-glob al-warming-climate-change-1036 90
most of us get the joke.[/QUOTE]

Greenpeace gives us the truth, while silly touched touchy toxic topix AGW deniers are the joke:
Patrick Moore is a Paid Spokesperson for the Nuclear Industry
In April 2006, the Nuclear Energy Institute, the principal lobby for the nuclear industry, launched the Clean And Safe Energy Coalition and installed former Bush Administration EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman and Mr. Moore as its co-chairs. The Clean and Safe Energy Coalition was part of a public relations project spearheaded by the public relations giant Hill & Knowlton as part of its estimated $8 million contract with the nuclear industry.(1)

Patrick Moore Does Not Represent Greenpeace
For more than 20 years, Mr. Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries. Most of these industries hired Mr. Moore only after becoming the focus of a Greenpeace campaign to improve their environmental performance. Mr. Moore has now worked for polluters for far longer than he ever worked for Greenpeace. Greenpeace opposes the use of nuclear energy because it is a dangerous and expensive distraction from real solutions to climate change.

Patrick Moore Did Not Found Greenpeace
Patrick Moore frequently portrays himself as a founder or co-founder of Greenpeace, and many news outlets have repeated this characterization. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace. Phil Cotes, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970. Patrick Moore applied for a berth on the Phyllis Cormack in March, 1971 after the organization had already been in existence for a year. A copy of his application letter and Greenpeace's response are available

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32053 Mar 3, 2014
harmonious wrote:
Hysterical warmers are so gullible[and dumb]
Massive storm system takes aim at winter-weary Midwest, East
(...)
"The main system is injecting a lot of moisture and cold air out over the Southern Plains," he said. "It's going to bring quite a bit of precipitation."
Heavy snow could fall on
Guess Cepanoos ignore where massive storm get energy and humidity for heavy snowfalls from ?

From evaporation

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