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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35564 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#31976 Feb 27, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
The number is not unreasonable, considering that sea level was that much higher when CO2 was at this level in geological history. The question is whether sea level is going to rise that much over a couple of millennia, or maybe much quicker.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/science/tim... ;
Anyhow, except maybe for China which is still a centralised dictature, democratic leaders have agendas which don't exceed one mandate or couple of mandates, so that they will not engage long term defense at sea rise. Men will make decisions only when they have already soaked shoes.

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Since: Oct 07

denver

#31978 Feb 27, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
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But not lastingly.
You said that you fear cooling more than warming, there is possibility is that melting of polar ices could slow down or stop the thermohaline circuit and start ice era http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Pol...
although that would suppose all of polar glaciers to have melted, that I don(t believe in because as polar iceselves should get thinner, isostatic release would make Greenland and Antarctica rise back at higher altitude, at least a third of the melted ice thickness, thus abble to harbour everlasting lasting snows. Never forget action and retroactions.
If ever my posts get too technical and polite, warn me
Are things in Paris that boring?

PS, I don't read ANY technical mumbo jumbo from any warming hysterics, no matter how polite.

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denver

#31979 Feb 27, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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It is easy to fabricate scientific data in a bench test. People do it all the time to come up with whatever conclusion they are looking for. It is called having an agenda
Describes the warming hysterics perfectly. When the USA has had one of the coldest winters in decades I see all i need to see.

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Since: Oct 07

denver

#31981 Feb 27, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
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Lol.
Still not mastered linking yet have we?
You really wanted to read them? Thx for playing. Fear not, quite easy to find contrarians on your own.

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Since: Oct 07

denver

#31982 Feb 27, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>The hillbillies don't like water, LOL.
Plenty of hillbillies in Texas, snob, who do you think you are? You're no better than anyone else, wise up Jethro.

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Since: Oct 07

denver

#31983 Feb 27, 2014
ooops!

By Ellen Wulfhorst

NEW YORK (Reuters)- A recent stint of warm days and sunshine in the U.S. Midwest and Northeast was just a tease, as forecasters on Wednesday predicted an extended stretch of bitter cold and snow reaching well into March.

The wintry conditions were likely to take a firm hold on Thursday in the Midwest and move eastward over the weekend, meteorologists said.

"Once again the polar jet stream has plunged southward, tapping bitter cold air directly from the Arctic Ocean. This latest frigid plunge will engulf the nation's northern tier through the weekend," wrote The Weather Channel meteorologist Chris Dolce on its website.

The arctic air mass was affecting the eastern two-thirds of the nation on Wednesday, with high temperatures some 15 to 30 degrees Fahrenheit below normal in many places, the National Weather Service said.

On Friday and Saturday a "long-duration snow event" will develop in the central United States and slowly move east, said Alex Sosnowski, senior meteorologist at Accuweather.com .

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#31984 Feb 28, 2014
There's never been a published peer reviewed experimental test of climate change mitigation or man made global climate change. Wait for the science to catch up to the hype.

Don't buy a pig in a poke.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#31985 Feb 28, 2014
harmonious wrote:
ooops!
By Ellen Wulfhorst
NEW YORK (Reuters)- A recent stint of warm days and sunshine in the U.S. Midwest and Northeast was just a tease, as forecasters on Wednesday predicted an extended stretch of bitter cold and snow reaching well into March.
The wintry conditions were likely to take a firm hold on Thursday in the Midwest and move eastward over the weekend, meteorologists said.
"Once again the polar jet stream has plunged southward, tapping bitter cold air directly from the Arctic Ocean. This latest frigid plunge will engulf the nation's northern tier through the weekend," wrote The Weather Channel meteorologist Chris Dolce on its website.
The arctic air mass was affecting the eastern two-thirds of the nation on Wednesday, with high temperatures some 15 to 30 degrees Fahrenheit below normal in many places, the National Weather Service said.
On Friday and Saturday a "long-duration snow event" will develop in the central United States and slowly move east, said Alex Sosnowski, senior meteorologist at Accuweather.com .
With all this cold weather in the US, the world must really be cooling.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-w...

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#31986 Feb 28, 2014
harmonious wrote:
Are things in Paris that boring?
Yes boring snowless winter here, Cloudy and rainy weather, Average temperatures 39F to 57F.
At least you've got fun with coldwaves.
harmonious wrote:
PS, I don't read ANY technical mumbo jumbo from any warming hysterics, no matter how polite.
Except when datas can favour no warming claims

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#31987 Feb 28, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
The number is not unreasonable, considering that sea level was that much higher when CO2 was at this level in geological history. The question is whether sea level is going to rise that much over a couple of millennia, or maybe much quicker.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/science/tim... ;
What's unreasonable is to forget that the antarctic iceshelf, while being able to melt at its base line is fed by snow falls at it summit, where even warming more such as 10 C will still have winter temperatures under -50 C, and that supposed to be warmer and weter atmosphere will bring more snow over antarctica high reliefs
So that I bet on the antarctic iceshelf resiliency, after all, it is over 800 000 years thick and the iceshelf itself is supposed to have existed since -45 billion years

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#31988 Feb 28, 2014
harmonious wrote:
PS, I don't read ANY technical mumbo jumbo from any warming hysterics, no matter how polite.
I do read litterature of "no-warming-anyways-we're -for-nothing-in-it", now matter how coarse .

Is your snow refreshed beer cold enough ?

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#31989 Feb 28, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
iceshelf itself is supposed to have existed since -45 billion years
Sorry 45 million years, Written too fast
LIbEralS

Minneapolis, MN

#31991 Feb 28, 2014
“The current CO2-induced warming of Earth is therefore essentially irreversible on human timescales.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/27/us-uk-scien...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#31995 Feb 28, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
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What's unreasonable is to forget that the antarctic iceshelf, while being able to melt at its base line is fed by snow falls at it summit, where even warming more such as 10 C will still have winter temperatures under -50 C, and that supposed to be warmer and weter atmosphere will bring more snow over antarctica high reliefs
So that I bet on the antarctic iceshelf resiliency, after all, it is over 800 000 years thick and the iceshelf itself is supposed to have existed since -45 billion years
The insane thing about brian's agenda for uncontrolled CO2 emission is that it would raise CO2 to levels that existed before the Antarctic ice formed (1000ppm+). If a reduction fro those levels allowed the ice to form, it doesn't seem impossible that raising CO2 to those levels again could cause the ice to disappear.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/309/5734/60...

Over millennia, perhaps, but sea level rise of a metre or more per century for millennia is going to make life for humans very difficult.

Not that brian and his fellow members of the cult of stupid give a fart.
litesong

Everett, WA

#31997 Feb 28, 2014
[QUOTE who="ratdownthemiddle ", "middleofthedownwronggull y"]do you warmies still believe the boogie man.....[/QUOTE]

Science without macho is not true.

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Since: Dec 08

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#31998 Feb 28, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
The insane thing about brian's agenda for uncontrolled CO2 emission is that it would raise CO2 to levels that existed before the Antarctic ice formed (1000ppm+). If a reduction fro those levels allowed the ice to form, it doesn't seem impossible that raising CO2 to those levels again could cause the ice to disappear.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/309/5734/60...
Over millennia, perhaps, but sea level rise of a metre or more per century for millennia is going to make life for humans very difficult.
Not that brian and his fellow members of the cult of stupid give a fart.
I'm not sure we can double or quadruple CO2 levels in the atmosphere but we can improve our own CO2 emissions to help. We've never seen an experimental test that shows a measured CO2 emission changing the global average CO2 level.

It seems insane to trust in models that have failed again and again, when experimental tests are key to understanding man made climate change and the best mitigation strategies. Without experiments, wait for science to catch up to the hype.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#32001 Feb 28, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not sure we can double or quadruple CO2 levels in the atmosphere
We are on track to quadruple CO2 concentration by the end of the century at current rate of emission.

http://www.ipcc-data.org/figures/ipcc_ddc_co2...
We've never seen an experimental test that shows a measured CO2 emission changing the global average CO2 level.
That would be an observation, halfwit.

Emitting half a trillion tons of CO2 = a 40% increase in CO2 level.

Deny that, fothermucker.
It seems insane to trust in models that have failed again and again,
I agree: the sceptics seem to be using failed models.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics/Pred...

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#32003 Feb 28, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
The insane thing about brian's agenda for uncontrolled CO2 emission is that it would raise CO2 to levels that existed before the Antarctic ice formed (1000ppm+). If a reduction fro those levels allowed the ice to form, it doesn't seem impossible that raising CO2 to those levels again could cause the ice to disappear.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/309/5734/60...
Over millennia, perhaps, but sea level rise of a metre or more per century for millennia is going to make life for humans very difficult.
Not that brian and his fellow members of the cult of stupid give a fart.
Up to millenium far predictions are too abstractions for large majority of peoples, no human civilisation lasted that long.

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#32004 Feb 28, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
Don't blame the hysterics, they are trying to get money to do an engineering study of the Earth's atmosphere.
They must justify their work.
It is the way Universities operate.
So-called hysterics don't to make money from your taxes, they have it and do the job they are paid for: observe, study and warn public through forecasts.

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#32007 Feb 28, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
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I do read litterature of "no-warming-anyways-we're -for-nothing-in-it", now matter how coarse .
Is your snow refreshed beer cold enough ?
Just right, thx for asking.

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