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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 39131 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Bend Over

Saint Paul, MN

#30702 Dec 27, 2013
Garage Logic, Baby!
The Minneapolis Park board is spending $1,100,000.00 for solar panels around lake Nokomis, saving $28,000.00 per year in electric expenses.
Let's see, that's almost 40 years before one penny is seen.
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#30703 Dec 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
To call cellulosic ethanol production a drop in the bucket, that's accurate.
And at one time you were a tiny tiny embryo. Now you are a gigantic idiot...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30704 Dec 27, 2013
Citizen wrote:
Global warming is about as real as obama's birth certificate.
Thank you.

Is that about a size 10 you're smoking?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30705 Dec 27, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
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"...the NP region warming..."
As we have been told SO many times; "that is weather", "that is regional", therefore regional temps are irrelevant.(i.e.'Medieval Warm Period' was regional- not global; thus MWP is not comparable to today's global temperatures).
...
Someone comments on regional (North Pole) WARMING as proof of GW.
YET...
Someone comments on 'regional COOLING' and is told that is "natural variability" therefore it is irrelevant to Climate Change... AND at the same time we are told that is what experts expect from AGW.
... and the "faithful" believers see nothing odd with such 'scientific reasoning'.
And here is the most astonishing fact: not a single science acadamy has objected to these contradictions to logic and reason.
May your Faith keep you warm.
Regional warming comes in degrees and kinds. The world is not black and white.

The Amazon warming by 4 degrees is not the Arctic warming 4 degrees. The world is not black and white.

You are getting sloppy. You're fallen for the black and white worldview. These are contradictions in your head, to your logic and your reason.
litesong

Everett, WA

#30706 Dec 27, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
And here is the most astonishing fact: not a single science acadamy(sic) has objected to these contradictions to logic and reason.
Its proof that your "contradictions to logic and reason", are not logical, reasoned properly, or contradictions, except to toxic topix AGW deniers, who have little science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, or pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas & very seldom have science or mathematics degrees, but do have a lot of politics in their blood.

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B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#30708 Dec 28, 2013
Bend Over wrote:
Garage Logic, Baby!
The Minneapolis Park board is spending $1,100,000.00 for solar panels around lake Nokomis, saving $28,000.00 per year in electric expenses.
Let's see, that's almost 40 years before one penny is seen.
I trust that the MPB is sensitive to the "Art" that they placed around the lake... I would hate to see the solar panels clash with the esthetics of the sculptures we paid for.

Hail "The Flashlight King"

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30709 Dec 28, 2013
Noam Chomsky:

“If there ever is future historians, they’re going to look back at this period of history with some astonishment,” Chomsky said.“The danger, the threat, is evident to anyone who has eyes open and pays attention at all to the scientific literature, and there are attempts to retard it, there are also at the other end attempts to accelerate the disaster, and if you look who’s involved it’s pretty shocking.”

Chomsky noted efforts to halt environmental damage by indigenous people in countries all over the world – from Canada’s First Nations to tribal people in Latin America and India to aboriginal people in Australia—but the nation’s richest, most advanced and most powerful countries, such as the United States, were doing nothing to forestall disaster.

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The indigenous tribes recognize, this is the latest wave of colonialism. My scientific tribe recognizes it as the destruction of the Commons for the profit of a few.
Anti Christ

Minneapolis, MN

#30710 Dec 28, 2013
Livin Woodbury wrote:
2009 was another year of global cooling, which saw numerous low temperature and high snowfall records smashed.
The Dutch canals for the first time in 12 years, record cold came to Al Gore's home town and ironically a blizzard dumped snow on the Copenhagen convention where world leaders met to try and stop global warming.
It was so cold that even the BBC was forced to ask, what happened to global warming? As Climategate would reveal, IPCC scientists had been hard at work hiding evidence of global cooling. Yet the observational evidence cannot be ignored.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php...
"Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say"
Come on pervs, try to stay on topic
VN Vet

Richmond, VA

#30713 Dec 30, 2013
"E-Gore" is such a lying fool he can't get his stories straight. The idiots who believe in global warming are eating their own words. IT'S THE SUN that controls our climate. The sun has just reversed its magnetic poles say scientists, so things may be getting weird on Earth. But never fear, when Yellowstone blows its top, all mankind will probably be wiped out. Let's see the leftist wackos blame that one on mankind and our SUVs. Damn idiots.
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#30714 Dec 31, 2013
VN Vet wrote:
"E-Gore" is such a lying fool he can't get his stories straight. The idiots who believe in global warming are eating their own words. IT'S THE SUN that controls our climate. The sun has just reversed its magnetic poles say scientists, so things may be getting weird on Earth. But never fear, when Yellowstone blows its top, all mankind will probably be wiped out. Let's see the leftist wackos blame that one on mankind and our SUVs. Damn idiots.
The idjits that deny AGW are getting weirder. And less educated.
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#30715 Dec 31, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
Too funny!
Global warming scientists forced to admit defeat... because of too much ice: Stranded Antarctic ship's crew will be rescued by helicopter
The ship certainly admits defeat. What has that got to do with AGW?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#30716 Dec 31, 2013
The polar ice caps aren't dissapearing; proving climate change mitigation is a hoax.
SpaceBlues

United States

#30717 Dec 31, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
The polar ice caps aren't dissapearing; proving climate change mitigation is a hoax.
WOW you are consistently irrational.

What keeps you here? Not science for goodness sake.
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#30718 Dec 31, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
The polar ice caps aren't dissapearing;
No they haven't. Nor are they expect to under current conditions. Even the 'ice free arctic' is expected to be a brief condition during the late summer. It will take many decades of earlier thaw and later freezup before you will be able to consider the arctic ice free. Antarctica will more likely take a while to reduce the winter ice cover significantly. The katabatic winds make conditions there a bit different.
Brian_G wrote:
proving climate change mitigation is a hoax.
This is known as the 'non-sequitur'. An illogical claim based on totally irrelevant statements.

Nor is there any 'mitigation' to test. The issue is AGW. This just shows that BG is not very bright as he cannot even keep to the subject in his fantasies.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30719 Dec 31, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
The polar ice caps aren't dissapearing; proving climate change mitigation is a hoax.
Both polar ice caps are losing mass, as measured by satellites.

brian is insane and wants to live in his alternative reality.
litesong

Everett, WA

#30720 Dec 31, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
The idjits that deny AGW are getting weirder. And less educated.
Ah...... you agree that toxic topix AGW deniers have little science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas & no science or mathematics degrees.
litesong

Everett, WA

#30721 Dec 31, 2013
[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]The polar ice caps aren't dissapearing(sic).....[/QUOTE]

First, as "lyin' brian" knows, Antarctic sea ice was AGW predicted to increase in 2002, re-affirmed in 2005 & has, as toxic topix AGW deniers love to tell, as if it wasn't an AGW prediction.

As far as 2012 Arctic sea ice area, it only recovered about 35%, not the 60% that toxic topix AGW deniers crowed about, early on. A more accurate measure is Arctic sea ice VOLUME. & it only recovered 15%, at its greatest, as compared to the 3 years previous, again, a more accurate measure of recovery.
Present December 1, 2013 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is 7% more than the December 1 date average, covering the "2010 to the present time", in this toxic topix toted AGW denier cold & frigid year. In addition, December 1, 2013 Arctic sea ice VOLUME is 9500 cubic kilometers LESS than the December 1 date average, covering the 1980-89 period.
VN Vet

Richmond, VA

#30722 Dec 31, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
The idjits that deny AGW are getting weirder. And less educated.
And you believed Obama when he said you can keep your doctor and insurance, PERIOD. By the way, I have two degrees. You are proof positive that liberalism is a mental illness.
fingiswold

Fitzgerald, GA

#30723 Dec 31, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
The polar ice caps aren't dissapearing; proving climate change mitigation is a hoax.
Still lying through your teeth, eh, Brian me boy? LOL

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#30725 Jan 1, 2014
fingiswold wrote:
Still lying through your teeth, eh, Brian me boy? LOL
I call my opponents mistaken, they call us liars:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/12/30/stu...

'Stuck in our own experiment': Leader of trapped team insists polar ice is melting
By Paul Tilsley
Published December 30, 2013
FoxNews.com

The leader of a scientific expedition whose ship remains stranded in Antarctic ice says the team, which set out to prove climate change, is "stuck in our own experiment."

But Chris Turney, a professor of climate change at Australia’s University of New South Wales, said it was “silly” to suggest he and 73 others aboard the MV Akademic Shokalskiy were trapped in ice they’d sought to prove had melted. He remained adamant that sea ice is melting, even as the boat remained trapped in frozen seas....

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