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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 37281 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Why

Oak Hill, WV

#30550 Dec 13, 2013
Fact-checking website PolitiFact is out with the latest edition of its "Lie of the Year." In 2013, the dubious prize went to President Obama for his widely derided claim that, "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it."

Many people, of course, found that they could not keep their plans, as the higher standards set by Obamacare rendered them null and void. The administration and Congress quickly moved in with proposed fixes to the mushrooming political problem.

PolitiFact is often criticized for its fact-checking methodology, and some noted that it had rated previous statements by Obama along similar lines as "half true."

Ironically, all three runners-up slots in PolitiFact's roundup went to Republicans for their own statements on Obamacare.
Why

Oak Hill, WV

#30551 Dec 13, 2013
Obama is a serial liar.
Laura

Minneapolis, MN

#30552 Dec 13, 2013
Not long ago Climate Change didn't exist. The disaster was called Global Warming.

Now it's gtting colder and out of the hat comes Climate Change.

Which is it?
Anti Christ

Minneapolis, MN

#30553 Dec 13, 2013
Laura wrote:
Not long ago Climate Change didn't exist. The disaster was called Global Warming.
Now it's gtting colder and out of the hat comes Climate Change.
Which is it?
"What we have here is; failure to communicate"

Clearly, "Global Warming" is a nonsensical term during this pause of the last 2 decades.
Clearly, "Climate Change" is and always will be.

The true epithet of the believers of Orthodox Climatology is:
"The Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Catastrophic Global Climate Disruption Orthodoxy"

Yes, these zealots are sooooooo stupid they are incapable of articulating their own faith based belief system. If it were not so sad it would be funny.

Stay warm,
AC
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#30554 Dec 13, 2013
Laura wrote:
Not long ago Climate Change didn't exist.
Mendacious or stupidity. Climate change has always existed as long as there has been an atmosphere. The term has been used as a short cut for 'AGW induced climate change' which should be clarified.
Laura wrote:
The disaster was called Global Warming.

AGW exists independent of the climate change it causes.

[QUOTE who="Laura"]
Now it's gtting colder..
It is called WINTER Weather. Climate change is just making it easier to have large swings in weather earlier in the season.
Laura wrote:
Which is it?
Yes. It is. AGW and climate change. Please ask your teacher or go for your GED. Stupidity is forever. Ignorance is curable. Prove that you are not stupid..
Laura

Minneapolis, MN

#30555 Dec 13, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Mendacious or stupidity. Climate change has always existed as long as there has been an atmosphere. The term has been used as a short cut for 'AGW induced climate change' which should be clarified.
<quoted text>
It is called WINTER Weather. Climate change is just making it easier to have large swings in weather earlier in the season.
<quoted text>
Yes. It is. AGW and climate change. Please ask your teacher or go for your GED. Stupidity is forever. Ignorance is curable. Prove that you are not stupid..
IF it's global warming then why would it ever get colder?

It's a simple question with a simple response.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#30557 Dec 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
Not me, brian, geology. Back in the Paleogene,(Pg) there was 500ppm CO2 in the atmosphere...[URL deleted] And no ice at the Antarctic...
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The CO2/time graph cited by Fair Game doesn't show much about CO2 in the 500ppm range, the graph starts and 10,000 then goes up steeply. Who's talking about the Antarctic? In the middle of Fair Game's graph timetable, Antarctica was closer to the Equator, I'm discussing ice at the poles, 500ppm might be a pleasant change from the past few million years.

All I'm writing, don't knock it until you've tried it.

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"the green troll"

#30558 Dec 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The CO2/time graph cited by Fair Game doesn't show much about CO2 in the 500ppm range, the graph starts and 10,000 then goes up steeply. Who's talking about the Antarctic? In the middle of Fair Game's graph timetable, Antarctica was closer to the Equator, I'm discussing ice at the poles, 500ppm might be a pleasant change from the past few million years.
All I'm writing, don't knock it until you've tried it.
Sure, dump that ice back in the ocean on the advice of a science denying lunatic. What could go wrong? 70m sea level rise? Sounds like fun!

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30559 Dec 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The CO2/time graph cited by Fair Game doesn't show much about CO2 in the 500ppm range, the graph starts and 10,000 then goes up steeply. Who's talking about the Antarctic? In the middle of Fair Game's graph timetable, Antarctica was closer to the Equator, I'm discussing ice at the poles, 500ppm might be a pleasant change from the past few million years.
All I'm writing, don't knock it until you've tried it.
A map of Earth last time CO2 was 500ppm.

Note Antarctic still at south pole, no ice, palm trees in Greenland and Patagonia.

http://www.scotese.com/paleocen.htm
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30560 Dec 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Fair Game lied when he wrote: "The last time we had 500ppm in the air, there was no ice on the planet."
So what? You got proof of that?

And you lie every time you post.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30561 Dec 13, 2013
Laura wrote:
Not long ago Climate Change didn't exist. The disaster was called Global Warming.
Now it's gtting colder and out of the hat comes Climate Change.
Which is it?
Not long ago?

The Intergovernmental Panel on >CLIMATE CHANGE< was formed in 1988.

That was 25 years ago. Can't count? Or just ignorant about everything?
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#30562 Dec 14, 2013
In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a report warning that rising temperatures would lead to more frequent and violent storms. Last year, the panel tempered that conclusion.

While warmer water makes cyclones more likely -- and while a higher sea level makes these tropical storms more dangerous -- changes in wind patterns might counteract those dangers. For Americans in particular, 2013 has proved the calmest hurricane season since 2002.

Yet hurricanes are only one example of an extreme weather event. In January 2013, The New York Times surveyed shocks around the world:
"China is enduring its coldest winter in nearly 30 years. Brazil is in the grip of a dreadful heat spell. Eastern Russia is so freezing -- minus 50 degrees Fahrenheit, and counting -- that the traffic lights recently stopped working in the city of Yakutsk."

"Bush fires are raging across Australia, fueled by a record-shattering heat wave. Pakistan was inundated by unexpected flooding in September. A vicious storm bringing rain, snow and floods just struck the Middle East. And in the United States, scientists confirmed this week what people could have figured out simply by going outside: last year was the hottest since records began."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/19/opinion/frum-gl...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#30563 Dec 15, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
Sure, dump that ice back in the ocean on the advice of a science denying lunatic. What could go wrong? 70m sea level rise? Sounds like fun!
Surfs up!

What's not to love about global warming?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#30564 Dec 15, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text> So what? You got proof of that? And you lie every time you post.
Proof:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
The last time we had 500ppm in the air, there was no ice on the planet.
Down with climate alarmism, up with truth. We've seen 1,000ppm CO2 with ice and snowpack on the poles. Climate changes, such is life.
No Warming

Athens, OH

#30565 Dec 15, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
A map of Earth last time CO2 was 500ppm.
Note Antarctic still at south pole, no ice, palm trees in Greenland and Patagonia.
http://www.scotese.com/paleocen.htm
No ice yet we know CO2 was 500ppm .... hmmm
Insipid Sophistry

Sierra Vista, AZ

#30566 Dec 15, 2013
yawn.....

2013 UPDATE ON CLIMATE --- Not some DATED aspirations of some (man-caused) "warmest" and Junk Science.....

Global warming? No, actually we're cooling, claim scientists - A cold Arctic summer has led to a record increase in the ice cap, leading experts to predict a period of global cooling.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/...

http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/climate-guru-puts-...

Climate Guru Puts 'Global Warming on Ice--
http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/climate-guru-puts-...

New Empirical Evidence - 20 Years of Satellite Global Measurements: No Significant Warming, Trend Robustly Below IPCC Predictions--

http://www.c3headlines.com/global-cooling-dat...

"Russian Scientists say period of global cooling ahead due to changes in the Sun."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/29/russian... ;

Forbes: "Sorry Global Warming Alarmists The Earth is Cooling."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012... ;

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30567 Dec 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
<quoted text>
Down with climate alarmism, up with truth. We've seen 1,000ppm CO2 with ice and snowpack on the poles. Climate changes, such is life.
Sure, 600 million years ago when the sun was much weaker.

Another lunatic argument from brian dismissed.
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#30568 Dec 15, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
In 2007, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a report warning that rising temperatures would lead to more frequent and violent storms. Last year, the panel tempered that conclusion.
While warmer water makes cyclones more likely -- and while a higher sea level makes these tropical storms more dangerous -- changes in wind patterns might counteract those dangers. For Americans in particular, 2013 has proved the calmest hurricane season since 2002.
Yet hurricanes are only one example of an extreme weather event. In January 2013, The New York Times surveyed shocks around the world:
"China is enduring its coldest winter in nearly 30 years. Brazil is in the grip of a dreadful heat spell. Eastern Russia is so freezing -- minus 50 degrees Fahrenheit, and counting -- that the traffic lights recently stopped working in the city of Yakutsk."
"Bush fires are raging across Australia, fueled by a record-shattering heat wave. Pakistan was inundated by unexpected flooding in September. A vicious storm bringing rain, snow and floods just struck the Middle East. And in the United States, scientists confirmed this week what people could have figured out simply by going outside: last year was the hottest since records began."
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/19/opinion/frum-gl...
CO2 at 400ppm, Antartica Sea Ice Extent, No Statistically Significant Warming, Below average temperatures in North America AND Europe, 14% MORE Green Space on the Planet Since CO2 Levels Were at 280ppm and so on and so on... YES, these are just a few of the "DENIERS" of "Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Global Climate Disruption"... Er.... I mean "Global Warming".
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#30569 Dec 15, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, 600 million years ago when the sun was much weaker.
Another lunatic argument from brian dismissed.
Sun's Current Solar Activity Cycle Is Weakest in a Century:

The sun's current space-weather cycle is the most anemic in 100 years, scientists say.

Our star is now at "solar maximum," the peak phase of its 11-year activity cycle. But this solar max is weak, and the overall current cycle, known as Solar Cycle 24, conjures up comparisons to the famously feeble Solar Cycle 14 in the early 1900s, researchers said.

"None of us alive have ever seen such a weak cycle. So we will learn something," Leif Svalgaard of Stanford University told reporters here today (Dec. 11) at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

http://www.space.com/23934-weak-solar-cycle-s...
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#30571 Dec 15, 2013
Insipid Sophistry wrote:
yawn.....
Global warming? No, actually we're cooling, claim scientists
Lie. And from Forbes (Heritage Institute's 'hide in plain sight' outlet)?

You really are insipid sophistry all right.

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