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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35607 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#30208 Oct 25, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>haha epic fail.
No. spot on...

lol

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30209 Oct 25, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>like I said before..... rent fuquing free !!!!!!
[email protected] morons!!!
AGW denial is a circle jerk anyway, but you know what pulling on your own dick is called, right,'rite'?

And to get caught doing it in public. LOL.

Hu.mil.i.a.ting.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30210 Oct 25, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
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No. spot on...
lol
you've been whittled down to the utter pathetic, sport.

Reboot

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30211 Oct 25, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
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AGW denial is a circle jerk anyway, but you know what pulling on your own dick is called, right,'rite'?
And to get caught doing it in public. LOL.
Hu.mil.i.a.ting.
i'm not going to ask what you're trying to communicate, perv.
I'm sure you don't really know yourself anyway.
Creep.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30212 Oct 25, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>i'm not going to ask what you're trying to communicate, perv.
I'm sure you don't really know yourself anyway.
Creep.
I'm saying you're a wanker.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#30213 Oct 25, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>you've been whittled down to the utter pathetic, sport.
Reboot
Humiliated, you!

LOL

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30214 Oct 25, 2013
When not trading insults and acting his age, ratdownthemuddle occasionally throws out a PRATT and rests his case.

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Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#30215 Oct 26, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>and where is your proof that this is factual, son? Is correlation your best case of evidence?
Go back to sleep.
The "proof" (only scientific illiterates ask for proof) is in the 1000's of peer reviewed research papers that you dismiss as an (impossible) global conspiracy, not in a one-liner. Of course, you know that as well as anyone; that's why you asked for it. You're a disinformationist.

Of you would actually like to address some EVIDENCE, you could begin with that which I've presented to you many times and which YOU EVADED every time.

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“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#30216 Oct 27, 2013
In science, proof means an experimental test. Climate change mitigation has never been experimentally tested, that's how you can know it's a hoax and man made catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience.

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"the green troll"

#30217 Oct 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
In science, proof means an experimental test. Climate change mitigation has never been experimentally tested, that's how you can know it's a hoax and man made catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience.
Straight out of the creationist handbook, just substituting climate change for evolution:
In science, proof means an experimental test. Evolution has never been experimentally tested, that's how you can know it's a hoax and evolution is pseudoscience.
http://creation.com/is-evolution-pseudoscienc...

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litesong

Everett, WA

#30218 Oct 27, 2013
litesong wrote:
It was "middleofthedownwronggull y" who didn't get new material by continually avoiding science or mathematics degrees & science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
However, if "middleofthedownwronggull y" had gotten a hi skule DEE-plooomaa, it would have felt out of place, & NOT gained the approval of "at home in lynching county", as this exchange indicates:
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litesong wrote:
Many toxic topix AGW deniers have no hi skule DEE-plooomaa, at all.
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"at home in lynching county" coughed:
An over educated man don't make a smart man.......
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"middleofthedownwronggull y" guffed:
nothing new here people..... move along!
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litesong wrote:
True! nothing new here people....."middleofthedo wnwronggully", "at home in lynching county" & surprisingly high percentages of toxic topix AGW deniers never got any education in science or mathematics.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#30219 Oct 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
In science, proof means an experimental test.
Lie. If that were true, then cold fusion would be 'proven'.
Brian_G wrote:
Climate change mitigation has never been experimentally tested, that's how you can know it's a hoax and man made catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience.
We already have the science to put AGW into the highest level of scientific rigor, called 'theory'. We now should be taking responsibility for that fact and reducing the CAUSE of AGW in order to 'experiment' with moderation.
SpaceBlues

United States

#30223 Oct 27, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Straight out of the creationist handbook, just substituting climate change for evolution:
<quoted text>
http://creation.com/is-evolution-pseudoscienc...
Thanks for the facts.

b_g is bankrupt.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30224 Oct 27, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Introduction to the Scientific Method
"Theories which cannot be tested... do not qualify as scientific theories."
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/ap...
Theories which cannot be tested, because, for instance, they have no observable ramifications (such as, a particle whose characteristics make it unobservable), do not qualify as scientific theories.
Warming temperatures would be an observable ramification.

As are decreased heat radiation into space and increased back radiation from the atmosphere.
litesong

Everett, WA

#30225 Oct 27, 2013
motheaten wrote:
Dodge, weave and avoid.
Lame.
"motheaten" avoided science & mathematics degrees, dodge around science, chemistry, astronomy & physics courses, & avoided algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.......... & turned up mathematically & scientifically lame.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#30227 Oct 27, 2013
Motheaten wrote:
<quoted text>
Introduction to the Scientific Method
"Theories which cannot be tested... do not qualify as scientific theories."
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/ap...
V. Are there circumstances in which the Scientific Method is not applicable?

There are, of course, circumstances when one cannot isolate the phenomena or when one cannot repeat the measurement over and over again. In such cases the results may depend in part on the history of a situation. This often occurs in social interactions between people. For example, when a lawyer makes arguments in front of a jury in court, she or he cannot try other approaches by repeating the trial over and over again in front of the same jury. In a new trial, the jury composition will be different. Even the same jury hearing a new set of arguments cannot be expected to forget what they heard before.
AGW is just such a phenomenon of course, where it is not possible to isolate it (there will always be changes in other factors that affect climate) and the measurements cannot be repeated over and over again (it's not possible to add and remove a trillion tons of carbon to the atmosphere over and over again).

As has been pointed out "motheaten" avoided science & mathematics degrees, dodged around science, chemistry, astronomy & physics courses, & avoided algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.

If motheaten had taken the science class which the notes he posted were intended for, he would have learnt that there is a branch of the science intended for just such circumstance, which does not rely on "performance of experimental tests of the predictions by several independent experimenters and properly performed experiments".

http://www.usc.edu/org/cosee-west/Jul_Aug2012...
litesong

Everett, WA

#30228 Oct 27, 2013
motheaten muffed:
Dodge, weave and avoid.
Lame.
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litesong wrote:
"motheaten" avoided science & mathematics degrees, dodge around science, chemistry, astronomy & physics courses, & avoided algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.......... & turned up mathematically & scientifically lame.
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motheaten observed:
.....loon
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litesong wrote:
Good that motheaten understands the pure, true tones of the Loon.
litesong

Everett, WA

#30230 Oct 27, 2013
litesong wrote:
"motheaten" avoided science & mathematics degrees, dodge around science, chemistry, astronomy & physics courses, & avoided algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.......... & turned up mathematically & scientifically lame.
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motheaten observed:
.....loon
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litesong wrote:
Good that motheaten understands the pure, true tones of the Loon.
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motheaten muffed:
another litesong loon
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litesong wrote:
I'm glad that motheaten agrees & praises me, that my biographical depiction of its education is as pure & true as the tones of the Loon.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#30231 Oct 27, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Introduction to the Scientific Method
"Theories which cannot be tested... do not qualify as scientific theories."
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/ap...
but EXPERIMENT is not the only or even the best 'test'.

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php...
Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.

You don't see 'that must incorporate experiments' do you..

Perhaps you just don't recognise the NAS as 'scientific authorities' and want to make up your OWN 'scientific method'.

But mostly you pervert the scientific method as well as the statements about it.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#30234 Oct 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
In science, proof means an experimental test. Climate change mitigation has never been experimentally tested, that's how you can know it's a hoax and man made catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience.
Wrong! And you know it's wrong because it's been explained - directly to you - many, many times. That illustrates both primary traits of denier scum:

1) Refusal to acknowledged failure of arguments in favor of repeating them endlessly.

2) A staggering level of intellectual dishonesty.

One more time - so that you can undoubtedly ignore it or hand wave it away one more time: Much of the most rock solid science in existence is not subject to real time, controlled, laboratory experiments. They're based on 'natural experiments'.

By your jackass criteria, entire fields of science are dismissable out of hand. If you're not a creationist (evolution denier), you need to explain why you accept the sciences of evolutionary biology, geology, paleontology, cladistics, comparative genomics, etc.

Let the weaseling begin!

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