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Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Sunny

Longview, WA

#30038 Oct 10, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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It is a very good illustration of how Hitler was able to gain power in Germany. The public thought that the 'democratic process' would restrain him, but he was able to get radicals into too many positions of power and the moderates were too afraid of them to speak up. So the radicals became the FACE of Germany. The public was NOT so radicalized but had nobody to give them a voice.
And there are other similarities between John Boehner and Hitler.. Both had no scruples, a fixed belief in an ideology and a 'wedge issue' to exploit. In the US it is the working poor while in Germany it was the Jews.
Note: Godwins Law is not applicable because there are serious comparisons.
Oh no you don't Canuck...
If you put Oblamber where you got John Boehner you would be right. After all Hitler did close the doors on the German congress an had them all gunned down remember.
You are right about the Godwin Law.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30040 Oct 10, 2013
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text>Oh no you don't Canuck...
If you put Oblamber where you got John Boehner you would be right. After all Hitler did close the doors on the German congress an had them all gunned down remember.
You are right about the Godwin Law.
You're thinking of the St. Valentine's Day massacre.

Try again. Use facts next time.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#30041 Oct 10, 2013
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text>Oh no you don't Canuck...
If you put Oblamber where you got John Boehner you would be right.
I see no comparison there. Obama is not intimidating his moderates or leading the extremists. You flunk..
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text>Oh no you don't Canuck...
After all Hitler did close the doors on the German congress an had them all gunned down remember.
I was a little young at the time, being born after the war.
And my reading doesn't support your claim.

I suppose you are talking about the 'night of the long knives'??
http://tinyurl.com/cn8c5

But that came a year AFTER Hitler had total power. It is a truism that totalitarians with fixed ideologies have to kill off all opposition to their rule. They cannot abide any objections to their plans and have to keep suppressing any dissent, by any means.They mean so well and do so badly. Expect it if Boehner succeeds in gaining power by this coup.
http://tinyurl.com/7n2axmq
Sunny wrote:
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You are right about the Godwin Law.
Yes. LEGITIMATE comparisons or use of history does not invoke Godwins Law.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#30042 Oct 10, 2013
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You're thinking of the St. Valentine's Day massacre.
Try again. Use facts next time.
Probably. The only possible comparison in Hitlers rule was the "Night of the Long Knives" which was a series of individual assassinations and purges. He already had total power since an year before so there would be no Congress to lock up and the burning of the Reichstagg had been the trigger for his taking total power so there was no building to burn! He probably burned it to end the power of Congress and take dictatorial power by blaming it on the communists, but note that the Reichstagg was burned with nobody inside as far as I can tell. At least no political figures were noted as dying in the fire.

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Sunny

Longview, WA

#30043 Oct 10, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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I see no comparison there. Obama is not intimidating his moderates or leading the extremists. You flunk..
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I was a little young at the time, being born after the war.
And my reading doesn't support your claim.
I suppose you are talking about the 'night of the long knives'??
http://tinyurl.com/cn8c5
But that came a year AFTER Hitler had total power. It is a truism that totalitarians with fixed ideologies have to kill off all opposition to their rule. They cannot abide any objections to their plans and have to keep suppressing any dissent, by any means.They mean so well and do so badly. Expect it if Boehner succeeds in gaining power by this coup.
http://tinyurl.com/7n2axmq
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Yes. LEGITIMATE comparisons or use of history does not invoke Godwins Law.
I don't see Boehner doing anything what so ever.
But I do see oblamber doing just what you're saying Boehner is going to do so I guess will just have to watch an see who does what right?
Have you ever watch World at War it's a Documentary that's 26 Episodes long.
If you haven't you should watch it.A lot of things that where going on then are going on now.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

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Sunny

Longview, WA

#30044 Oct 10, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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You're thinking of the St. Valentine's Day massacre.
Try again. Use facts next time.
Ok bosss any more orders from the caveman.lol

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LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#30045 Oct 11, 2013
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text>Ok bosss any more orders from the caveman.lol
It was good advice. Therefore you will not take it.

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Sunny

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LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#30047 Oct 11, 2013
Sunny wrote:
http://reason.com/archives/201 2/10/02/half-of-the-facts-you- know-are-probably
"Dinosaurs were cold-blooded."

Never became a myth with any scientist I am aware of. The size of some dinosaurs precluded such a low metabolic rate. However, they weren't warm blooded (homeostatic temperature) either. Kind of midway, generating some heat internally.

"Vast increases in the money supply produce inflation."
If unaccompanied by vast increases in the GDP, sure.

"Increased K-12 spending and lower pupil/teacher ratios boosts public school student outcomes. "

Limited validity. Generally it is a weak correlation often cited to boost budgets. But mostly it is the quality of the teachers and the design of the curriculum.

"Most of the DNA in the human genome is junk."

"One mans junk is another mans treasure.". This was a former 'meme' but never a 'myth' at least to anyone I know. Even 'active' DNA is moderated by methylization to turn it on and off. How can you be sure what can be turned ON?

"Saccharin causes cancer and a high fiber diet prevents it."

High fiber is definitely good for you and reduces risk of colon cancer. It was never claimed it prevented any cancer.

On Saccharin in 2000, scientists learned that rodents, unlike humans, have a unique combination of high pH, high calcium phosphate, and high protein levels in their urine. One or more of the proteins that are more prevalent in male rats combine with calcium phosphate and saccharin to produce microcrystals that damage the lining of the bladder. Over time, the rat's bladder responds to this damage by over-producing cells to repair the damage, which leads to tumor formation. Since this does not occur in humans, there is (probably) no elevated risk of bladder cancer.

"Stars cannot be bigger than 150 solar masses."

What it really said was that stars above 150 solar masses 'cannot form' from the dust and gasses. "A study have determined that stars larger than 150 solar masses in R136 were created through the collision and merger of massive stars in close binary systems, providing a way to sidestep the 150 solar mass limit."

The misreading skills of diwmits is what leads to these errors of fact within the PUBLIC community.

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Sunny

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30049 Oct 11, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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I see no comparison there. Obama is not intimidating his moderates or leading the extremists. You flunk..
<quoted text>
I was a little young at the time, being born after the war.
And my reading doesn't support your claim.
I suppose you are talking about the 'night of the long knives'??
http://tinyurl.com/cn8c5
But that came a year AFTER Hitler had total power. It is a truism that totalitarians with fixed ideologies have to kill off all opposition to their rule. They cannot abide any objections to their plans and have to keep suppressing any dissent, by any means.They mean so well and do so badly. Expect it if Boehner succeeds in gaining power by this coup.
http://tinyurl.com/7n2axmq
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Yes. LEGITIMATE comparisons or use of history does not invoke Godwins Law.
He's confused the St. Valentine's day massacre with the Munich putsch, in which I think a few were killed but Hitler was thrown in jail, where he proceeded to write "Mein Kampf.

He didn't pay attention in History class either.

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30050 Oct 11, 2013
He (Sunny) didn't pay attention in Science or History class either.

Sunny, in spite of his name, may not be too bright.

You're right, though. It's more likely he heard of the Night of the Long Knives than the Munich rebellion.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#30051 Oct 11, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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He's confused the St. Valentine's day massacre with the Munich putsch, in which I think a few were killed but Hitler was thrown in jail, where he proceeded to write "Mein Kampf.
His statement was "After all Hitler did close the doors on the German congress an had them all gunned down remember" which doesn't match up with ANY real event that I am aware of.
gcaveman1 wrote:
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He didn't pay attention in History class either.
I'm sure he didn't pay attention in any class. To remain that ignorant takes either native talent or an early end to education. Or maybe both.

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30052 Oct 11, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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You're thinking of the St. Valentine's Day massacre.
Try again. Use facts next time.
That's what non disciples of AGW are waiting for, son. Facts!!!

What do you have?

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30053 Oct 11, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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The second characteristic of denialists is that they keep parroting the same stupid and invalid claims even after being debunked.
such as????

how about you religious freaks debunking observations?

oh, right, facts are what you say you claim, right?

EPA is shitting on renewabales, btw......just in case you missed it.

D6 RIN down from 1.46 to 29 cents in three months.

I know....you don't even know what the hell is going on....let alone know what I'm talking about.

LOL

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30054 Oct 11, 2013
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Everything. You have a VERY short attention span.
http://tinyurl.com/mz64rsf
"The results of this analysis indicate that observed temperature after 1998 is consistent with the current understanding of the relationship among global surface temperature, internal variability, and radiative forcing, which includes anthropogenic factors that have well known warming and cooling effects."
i'd like for you to quant that claim, son.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30055 Oct 11, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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It is a very good illustration of how Hitler was able to gain power in Germany. The public thought that the 'democratic process' would restrain him, but he was able to get radicals into too many positions of power and the moderates were too afraid of them to speak up. So the radicals became the FACE of Germany. The public was NOT so radicalized but had nobody to give them a voice.
And there are other similarities between John Boehner and Hitler.. Both had no scruples, a fixed belief in an ideology and a 'wedge issue' to exploit. In the US it is the working poor while in Germany it was the Jews.
Note: Godwins Law is not applicable because there are serious comparisons.
LOL....it's no wonder why you people come up with the conclusions you do!! Do political parties drive your gray matter that much???? really??

LOL

tell us more.....we really want to be entertained by your illogical idiocy, son!!

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#30056 Oct 11, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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"Dinosaurs were cold-blooded."
Never became a myth with any scientist I am aware of. The size of some dinosaurs precluded such a low metabolic rate. However, they weren't warm blooded (homeostatic temperature) either. Kind of midway, generating some heat internally.
"Vast increases in the money supply produce inflation."
If unaccompanied by vast increases in the GDP, sure.
"Increased K-12 spending and lower pupil/teacher ratios boosts public school student outcomes. "
Limited validity. Generally it is a weak correlation often cited to boost budgets. But mostly it is the quality of the teachers and the design of the curriculum.
"Most of the DNA in the human genome is junk."
"One mans junk is another mans treasure.". This was a former 'meme' but never a 'myth' at least to anyone I know. Even 'active' DNA is moderated by methylization to turn it on and off. How can you be sure what can be turned ON?
"Saccharin causes cancer and a high fiber diet prevents it."
High fiber is definitely good for you and reduces risk of colon cancer. It was never claimed it prevented any cancer.
On Saccharin in 2000, scientists learned that rodents, unlike humans, have a unique combination of high pH, high calcium phosphate, and high protein levels in their urine. One or more of the proteins that are more prevalent in male rats combine with calcium phosphate and saccharin to produce microcrystals that damage the lining of the bladder. Over time, the rat's bladder responds to this damage by over-producing cells to repair the damage, which leads to tumor formation. Since this does not occur in humans, there is (probably) no elevated risk of bladder cancer.
"Stars cannot be bigger than 150 solar masses."
What it really said was that stars above 150 solar masses 'cannot form' from the dust and gasses. "A study have determined that stars larger than 150 solar masses in R136 were created through the collision and merger of massive stars in close binary systems, providing a way to sidestep the 150 solar mass limit."
The misreading skills of diwmits is what leads to these errors of fact within the PUBLIC community.
ok...ok....you love pot, right?

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#30058 Oct 12, 2013
Sunny wrote:
http://www.omg-facts.com/top
The only reason I see for you posting this is an insanely lame attempt to justify your BS claims. Are we supposed to read a list of ideas that were replaced by better ones when better evidence was found and conclude that any dumbass mistake you've made is destined to become "fact"?

Holy crap, you are the poster boy for anti-science, anti-reality RW jittery.

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#30059 Oct 12, 2013
Sunny wrote:
http://www.omg-facts.com/top
Now you're just shouting "look over there!" to distract from errors to which you're incapable of admitting - which is universal denier behavior.

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