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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 34475 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#29502 Sep 11, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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TRANSLATION: ONLY the data that confirms my view can be considered "high quality data". Anything else isn't to be considered.
Bogus. The satellite data of recent years is by far the more accurate and stable measurement. Proxy estimates (i.e sunspot) reading have much higher error bars and thus make it less 'robust' to analyze. This isn't a matter of opinion but of fact.

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gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#29503 Sep 11, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Bogus. The satellite data of recent years is by far the more accurate and stable measurement. Proxy estimates (i.e sunspot) reading have much higher error bars and thus make it less 'robust' to analyze. This isn't a matter of opinion but of fact.
You really think he understands such terms as "proxy" and "robust"?

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gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#29504 Sep 11, 2013
Why don't we wait for the report?

It's still in the editing stage, and there's bound to be internal politics at play.

What I've heard is that the report will again be fairly conservative, possibly because of heat they have received for the previous reports, causing them to pull their punches. If so, congratulations, denialists, you are influencing science your way and endangering civilization even more.

After all, we don't want to get too alarmist about an impending catastrophe, do we? That would make us all Chicken Littles.

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#29505 Sep 11, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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"Environmentalism is not a distraction its been turned around and used as a tool to further a socialist agenda. Environmentalism = EVERYTHINGism. Socialists committed ideologically to notion government should control every aspect of our lives. Will not let tool go to waste that gives absolute power and control they want and have waited 100 years for and allows them to get it under the GUSIE of saving the planet."
Patrick Moore co-founder of GreenPeace
Effect on validity of science =ZERO.

That's the neat thing about science. It's evidence based and self-correcting. No amount of political fussing has any effect on the evidence.

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#29506 Sep 11, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
An example of KYLE logic:
- A million more square miles of ocean being covered in ice in a year's time doesn't change the fact that the Earth certainly must be warming.
Example of LIbEralS argument:
- Ignore all arguments made and concoct some rhetorical flourish. That smells like defeat.

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#29507 Sep 11, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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TRANSLATION: ONLY the data that confirms my view can be considered "high quality data". Anything else isn't to be considered.
TRANS: "I don't understand statistical tests on data."

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#29508 Sep 11, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Hey, don't bitch at me.
It's the warmists promoting global warming who aren't abiding by the "science".
Not bitching; pointing out your illogical argument style. BTW, you were illogical again. The logical response would have been an acknowledgement of your previous logical failure, not more of same.

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#29509 Sep 11, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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You fail to follow conversation.
Doesn't matter, nor change the fact that the leaders and promoters aren't abiding by your science.
Gawd... that's gotta really bug you, huh?
I follow the conversation just fine:

Deniers deny science.
Deniers lose on science.
Deniers argue non-science as a non sequitur argument for science.
Deniers refuse to acknowledge the above, so they deny the subject being discussed.

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#29510 Sep 11, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>get back to me when you can stop bastardizing valid science, sport!!
Says the serial liar who's been defeated on the science many times but never laid a glove on my scientific claims.

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Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#29511 Sep 11, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Actually it is.
No it isn't, as already explained. If Hitler himself launched WWIII to enforce a global carbon tax while burning every acre of the Amazon forest, the effect on the validity of climate science wouldn't be affected one iota.

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29512 Sep 11, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>CORRECT TRANSLATION: The theory explains the onservations.
The theory was not disproven!
theories are proven. man made climate change is a hypothesis....ergo it hasn't been proven.
DUH!!!!!!!!

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#29515 Sep 12, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>theories are proven. man made climate change is a hypothesis....ergo it hasn't been proven.
DUH!!!!!!!!
HUH? DUH!!!!!!!!!! Your dog and pony show goes on:
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>In ..an asteroid will hit earth at some time in the future. that is certain! you worry about unfounded theories!! LOL why? man made co2 caused catastrophes are politically spoon fed theories. HELLO!!!!
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thanks for the lame article and the laugh!!
LOL
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LOL
Hahahahaha time for a lesson:

A theory is not the same as a hypothesis, as a theory is a 'proven' hypothesis, that, in other words, has never been disproved through experiment, and has a basis in fact..[Wikipedia]

See how confused you were before about what a theory is. You're welcome.

QED, I was right, you were wrong. LOL.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#29516 Sep 12, 2013
richardIII wrote:
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All scientists agree, another ice age is right around the corner, idiotic libs stock up on ice cubes.
HUH? Just like that?

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gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#29517 Sep 12, 2013
richardIII wrote:
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All scientists agree, another ice age is right around the corner, idiotic libs stock up on ice cubes.
Again....so much stupidity, so little time....

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Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#29518 Sep 12, 2013
Follow the Money, the greedy always reveal themselves, sometimes like Wiener.

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29521 Sep 12, 2013
richardIII wrote:
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Back in your cave, Barney, 16 years, no warming, arctic ice cap expanding, ur an idiot.
SOOO much more stupidity, and even less time.

Your type comes through occasionally, falling off the turnip truck....

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29522 Sep 12, 2013
A two-month-long expedition to one of the most remote sites on the planet the sprawling Pine Island Glacier in Antarctica has revealed that currents of warm water beneath the glacier are melting the ice at a staggering rate of about 2.4 inches (6 centimeters) per day.

An international team of researchers journeyed to the southernmost continent to study the Pine Island Glacier, which is the longest and fastest-changing glacier on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. This region, in the far reaches of Antarctica, has been of particular interest to scientists because it is among the most rapidly melting ice masses in the world, thinning as it flows to the Amundsen Sea at a rate of about 2.5 miles (4 kilometers) each year.

Since warm seawater flows beneath the ice shelf (the part of the glacier that floats on the ocean), scientists have known that the Pine Island Glacier was melting from below. Now, using sensors deployed across the 31-mile-long (50-km-long) glacier, the researchers have gauged the rate of glacial melt beneath the solid ice.

-NBC

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29523 Sep 12, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>HUH? DUH!!!!!!!!!! Your dog and pony show goes on:
<quoted text>Hahahahaha time for a lesson:
A theory is not the same as a hypothesis, as a theory is a 'proven' hypothesis, that, in other words, has never been disproved through experiment, and has a basis in fact..[Wikipedia]
See how confused you were before about what a theory is. You're welcome.
QED, I was right, you were wrong. LOL.
Jesus! Unbelievable!

And the SOB thinks he can tell us all about climate change!

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29524 Sep 12, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>HUH? DUH!!!!!!!!!! Your dog and pony show goes on:
<quoted text>Hahahahaha time for a lesson:
A theory is not the same as a hypothesis, as a theory is a 'proven' hypothesis, that, in other words, has never been disproved through experiment, and has a basis in fact..[Wikipedia]

QED, I was right, you were wrong. LOL.
wrong! a hypothesis is tested and passes validation before becoming a theory. man made climate change hasn't failed because it has never been tested.

so, no, you're wrong again, mullet queefer.

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29525 Sep 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Jesus! Unbelievable!
And the SOB thinks he can tell us all about climate change!
i don't claim to do that!! i just know that you and "spaced out blues" are even less qualified in that department.
you people are religious zealots......facts and reality be damned.
LOL

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