Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35607 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Since: May 13

North Miami Beach, FL

#29428 Sep 8, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
a Conspiracy theory? Duh.
I thought you accepted it. I wonder why.
thethirdrail

Hear Ye Hear Ye You are still behind the times the Telegaph
has reported that a "Cold Artic Summer and a Massive Increase in
Increase in the Ice Cap and a leaked United Nations report leads
many to think we are now in a cooling phase"

Hear Hear Ye "a CBS report on Mysterious large Ice Balls were
reported Falling In Brooklyn.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#29429 Sep 8, 2013
Why is it still just a "maybe" scientific consensus of a "possible" coming climate crisis as they have never agreed that any crisis was an inevitable and unavoidable crisis that will happen for certain?
28 years of science NEVER saying a crisis WILL happen feeds deniers and perpetuates this costly debate to save the planet. Science can end this debate instantly with a real warning for a real crisis.
So just what DOES have to happen now for science to say the end of "life as we know it" from their own climate crisis WILL happen? When it's too late? How close to the edge of no return from unstoppable will the lab coats lead us with their "maybe" "catastrophic" climate crisis?
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#29430 Sep 8, 2013
A cold Arctic summer has led to a record increase in the ice cap, leading experts to predict a period of global cooling:

There has been a 60 per cent increase in the amount of ocean covered with ice compared to this time last year, they equivalent of almost a million square miles.

In a rebound from 2012's record low an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia's northern shores, days before the annual re-freeze is even set to begin.

The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year, forcing some ships to change their routes.

A leaked report to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) seen by the Mail on Sunday, has led some scientists to claim that the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century.

IF CORRECT, it would contradict computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. The news comes several years after it was predicted that the arctic would be ice-free by 2013.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/...
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29431 Sep 8, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>do you?
Lol
Hurricanes in the northeast US are becoming less frequent and less severe!
Zero hurricanes in August.
NOAA embarrassed themselves by claiming sandy was due to global warming.
Got an explanation why the would tell such a boondoggle ?
Lol
Yawn. Denier scum substitutes hurricane distraction for tornado distraction.

Effect on the conclusions of anthropogenic CO2 leading to catastrophic warming = ZERO. Which you know. However, since science is against you, you must distract. The alternative - telling the truth - doesn't pay as well.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29432 Sep 8, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>consistency or coincidence isn't causation.
Duh.
LMAO!

That, lying scumbag, is a concession that you were wrong about GH theory predictions of strotospheric temperatures.

Of course, it's also a concession that you're far too dishonest to concede honestly.

It's also a dishonest, scumbag confession that GH theory predicts more warming at night, in winter, and at high latitudes, as well.

It's also a dishonest, scumbag concession that all four patterns are clear in the data.

Too bad you can't honestly address the science. That would require giving up denial - and you paychecks.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29433 Sep 8, 2013
thethirdrail wrote:
<quoted text>
thethirdrail
Hear Ye Hear Ye You are still behind the times the Telegaph
has reported that a "Cold Artic Summer and a Massive Increase in
Increase in the Ice Cap and a leaked United Nations report leads
many to think we are now in a cooling phase"
Hear Hear Ye "a CBS report on Mysterious large Ice Balls were
reported Falling In Brooklyn.
Hear ye, hear ye

Denier rag publishes transparent propaganda which deliberately ignores ice volume, which has collapsed, to concentrate on fleeting area data. Shocking.(Sarcasm off)

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29434 Sep 8, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn. Denier scum substitutes hurricane distraction for tornado distraction.
Effect on the conclusions of anthropogenic CO2 leading to catastrophic warming = ZERO. Which you know. However, since science is against you, you must distract. The alternative - telling the truth - doesn't pay as well.
My observations are based on facts and reality.
Your pseudo-scientific predictions are faulty, overstated, and just plain wrong.
If you admit that you have no credible evidence that man made co2 has no definitive correlation to tornadic activity, or the number and intensity of hurricanes, or the amount and size of forest fires, etc.....other than flimsy theories, we might get somewhere.
But stop trying to convince people your opinions are the gospel, son.
Do you need a peer reviewed study to prove pigs don't fly???
LOL
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29435 Sep 8, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
Why is it still just a "maybe" scientific consensus of a "possible" coming climate crisis as they have never agreed that any crisis was an inevitable and unavoidable crisis that will happen for certain?
28 years of science NEVER saying a crisis WILL happen feeds deniers and perpetuates this costly debate to save the planet. Science can end this debate instantly with a real warning for a real crisis.
So just what DOES have to happen now for science to say the end of "life as we know it" from their own climate crisis WILL happen? When it's too late? How close to the edge of no return from unstoppable will the lab coats lead us with their "maybe" "catastrophic" climate crisis?
Yet another scientific illiterate displays their scientific illiteracy by demanding "proof" and certainty from sciencen

Take a f**king science class and stop embarrassing yourselves.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29436 Sep 8, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
A cold Arctic summer has led to a record increase in the ice cap, leading experts to predict a period of global cooling:
There has been a 60 per cent increase in the amount of ocean covered with ice compared to this time last year, they equivalent of almost a million square miles.
In a rebound from 2012's record low an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia's northern shores, days before the annual re-freeze is even set to begin.
The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year, forcing some ships to change their routes.
A leaked report to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) seen by the Mail on Sunday, has led some scientists to claim that the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century.
IF CORRECT, it would contradict computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. The news comes several years after it was predicted that the arctic would be ice-free by 2013.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/...
Repeating debunked deceptive propaganda doesn't lend it any more credibility.

So, denier scumbags, what should onlookers conclude by your use of such blatant deceptions? The rational conclusion is that you lack good arguments, else you wouldn't keep repeating the bad ones.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29437 Sep 8, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>My observations are based on facts and reality.
Your pseudo-scientific predictions are faulty, overstated, and just plain wrong.
If you admit that you have no credible evidence that man made co2 has no definitive correlation to tornadic activity, or the number and intensity of hurricanes, or the amount and size of forest fires, etc.....other than flimsy theories, we might get somewhere.
But stop trying to convince people your opinions are the gospel, son.
Do you need a peer reviewed study to prove pigs don't fly???
LOL
Another clear concession. You've dishonestly conceded that you can't prevail in discussing the scientific conclusions regarding anthropogenic CO2 emissions causing catastrophic GW. Thus, you yammer on about tangential issues which represent far less conclusive science, as well as representing a small fraction of the dangers.

Concession accepted, denier scumbag.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29438 Sep 8, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>
Another clear concession. You've dishonestly conceded that you can't prevail in discussing the scientific conclusions regarding anthropogenic CO2 emissions causing catastrophic GW. Thus, you yammer on about tangential issues which represent far less conclusive science, as well as representing a small fraction of the dangers.
Concession accepted, denier scumbag.
I've concluded that no conclusions have been made or determined.
You can't prove otherwise, so you beg for concessions from other posters on a daily basis.
Pathetic is your middle name, Kyle.
Mothra

United States

#29439 Sep 8, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Our argument and our demand is as basic as it possibly can be. If they can disprove any part of it, we welcome their solid evidence. Where is it?
Our argument is that the Earth is warming, we are causing it, and there is something we can do about it. They can deny each point, but they cannot disprove any of them.
And as a statement of our earnest commitment to this issue, I think all AGW acceptors here will agree with me;
we wish we were wrong.
Do you see all the leaders, scientists, and politicians advocating the theory of global warming actually "do something about it" and make the lifestyle changes they demand others make?

Does the IPCC leader take a chauffeured gas powered car to/from his office one mile from his house?

Yup.

Does the IPCC leader own a gas-guzzler?

Yup.

Does the IPCC leader own an electric car?

Yup.

Does the IPCC leader use the electric car that was bought specifically for his own use actually use it?

Nope.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473...

Some crisis.

Shall I continue with Al Gore?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29440 Sep 8, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>wind turbines have lost blades. In one case the blade went through someone's window 8 kilometers away!
They fling chunks of ice accumulated while stopped.
They're ugly!
They are noise polluters!
They kill birds of prey.
They will do almost nothing in terms of reducing co2 emissions.
They are easily rendered useless after lightning strikes.
These are facts. No denying facts.
Wind turbines are crap!!
Must be something wrong with your "facts"; they're building the hell out of them everywhere!
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29441 Sep 8, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>i say tornados activity is down.
I say quite strong tornadoes on numerous occasions have been occurring long before man made co2 emissions were around.
I say there is no connection. Some think so.... But no scientist or science body head will make such an outlandish claim.
Will you?
You left out your "lol".

It's your best argument.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29442 Sep 8, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you see all the leaders, scientists, and politicians advocating the theory of global warming actually "do something about it" and make the lifestyle changes they demand others make?
Does the IPCC leader take a chauffeured gas powered car to/from his office one mile from his house?
Yup.
Does the IPCC leader own a gas-guzzler?
Yup.
Does the IPCC leader own an electric car?
Yup.
Does the IPCC leader use the electric car that was bought specifically for his own use actually use it?
Nope.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473...
Some crisis.
Shall I continue with Al Gore?
Answer to the last question: by all means, continue to make a fool of yourself.

Answers to the previous questions: so what?
Mothra

United States

#29443 Sep 8, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer to the last question: by all means, continue to make a fool of yourself.
Answers to the previous questions: so what?
So... the "leaders" of global warming don't abide by the standards for the followers and you say,'so what'?

Confirming the motto of the warmists:

Do what I say, not as I do.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29445 Sep 9, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You left out your "lol".
It's your best argument.
lol
That's not an argument, son, but just a response to your asinine positions.... and your fatuous posts!!

Lol!!

Thanks for yet another laugh.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29446 Sep 9, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Must be something wrong with your "facts"; they're building the hell out of them everywhere!
not exactly, son.
Helpful hint.... Just read some news out of Indiana.
Wind power is unreliable. It doesn't follow demand.
It really is simple to deduce if you think with an open mind.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29447 Sep 9, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
So... the "leaders" of global warming don't abide by the standards for the followers and you say,'so what'?
Confirming the motto of the warmists:
Do what I say, not as I do.
its amazing how these people demand changes they're unwilling to lead by example with themselves. If I were a judgmental type person...I'd swear they're all hypocrites! But....I'll leave the name calling to that crowd. That's all they have.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#29448 Sep 9, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol
That's not an argument, son
Thank you for confirming that you have nothing to debate and no position prepared with arguements and reasoning.
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol
just a response to your asinine positions.... a
Knee jerk rejection? I guess you don't have anything to back up your spam. Thanks for confirming that your 'viewpoint' is based on ignorance and 'belief'. The 'asinine' is thus almost a badge of honor to those who actually debate the issue.
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol
and your fatuous posts!!
Fatuous would more correctly apply to YOUR posts since they are both incompetent and smug.
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol
Lol!!
Thanks for yet another laugh.
The fool often finds the most humor in his silliness. His listeners have to decide if he is worthy of laughter.

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