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Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 36895 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Since: May 13

North Miami Beach, FL

#29364 Sep 2, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
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So much stupidity...so little time.(sigh)
thethirdrail

Snowstorm Hear Ye Hear Ye Snowstorm in Peru now that's
Global Warming The Number of Hurricains Predicted for
this Year have had to be lowered because the Forecasters
have said it is getting cooler cooler cooler not hotter
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29365 Sep 2, 2013
thethirdrail wrote:
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thethirdrail
Snowstorm Hear Ye Hear Ye Snowstorm in Peru now that's
Global Warming The Number of Hurricains Predicted for
this Year have had to be lowered because the Forecasters
have said it is getting cooler cooler cooler not hotter
Hear Ye Hear Ye, Peru is in the southern hemisphere.

Hear Ye Hear Ye, It's the dead of winter in the southern hemisphere.

Hear Ye Hear Ye, Much of Peru is in the Andes.

Hear Ye Hear Ye, The Andes are the 2nd highest mountain range on the planet.

Hear Ye Hear Ye, thethirdrail is mentally deficient.

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Since: May 13

North Miami Beach, FL

#29366 Sep 2, 2013
Kyle wrote:
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Hear Ye Hear Ye, Peru is in the southern hemisphere.
Hear Ye Hear Ye, It's the dead of winter in the southern hemisphere.
Hear Ye Hear Ye, Much of Peru is in the Andes.
Hear Ye Hear Ye, The Andes are the 2nd highest mountain range on the planet.
Hear Ye Hear Ye, thethirdrail is mentally deficient.
thethirdrail
Hear Ye Hear Ye BBC report (Google it) the coldest storm in a
decade also affected a number of other countries as well.
Still unanswered is why the Number of Huricains Predicted for
this year had to be Lowered Lowered because the Weather Forecasters
said it was getting cooler cooooler Not hotter.

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Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#29371 Sep 2, 2013
thethirdrail wrote:
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thethirdrail
Hear Ye Hear Ye BBC report (Google it) the coldest storm in a
decade also affected a number of other countries as well.
Still unanswered is why the Number of Huricains Predicted for
this year had to be Lowered Lowered because the Weather Forecasters
said it was getting cooler cooooler Not hotter.
Dumbazz denier fallacy #2 - "It's cold somewhere ..." raises its ugly head yet again.

Still unanswered is why you reach conclusions on the realities of AGW that are contrary to MOUNTAINS of science based on cherry-picked things like the number of predicted hurricanes.

It's like denying that objects fall because you saw a helium balloon.

Actually, there's no need to answer. There are only a few answers and you'll never admit to any of them. You're either:

1)... a paranoid, conspiracy theorist wingnut devoid of any ability to assess evidence or acknowledge refutations. IOW, exactly like a troll except you're so irrational that you actually believe what you claim to believe.

2)... an ideologue, so wedded to their ideology that even science and objective reality must take a back seat.

3)... a religious fundy that is likewise helpless in the grip of dogmatic thinking, except you reject reality with a supernatural twist.

4)... a disinformationist, somehow compensated for rejecting reality in a public forum to make reality rejection seem like a viable, mainstream position.
Johnetta Lockamy

Ashburn, VA

#29372 Sep 2, 2013
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SpaceBlues

United States

#29373 Sep 2, 2013
Kyle wrote:
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Dumbazz denier fallacy #2 - "It's cold somewhere ..." raises its ugly head yet again.
Still unanswered is why you reach conclusions on the realities of AGW that are contrary to MOUNTAINS of science based on cherry-picked things like the number of predicted hurricanes.
It's like denying that objects fall because you saw a helium balloon.
Actually, there's no need to answer. There are only a few answers and you'll never admit to any of them. You're either:
1)... a paranoid, conspiracy theorist wingnut devoid of any ability to assess evidence or acknowledge refutations. IOW, exactly like a troll except you're so irrational that you actually believe what you claim to believe.
2)... an ideologue, so wedded to their ideology that even science and objective reality must take a back seat.
3)... a religious fundy that is likewise helpless in the grip of dogmatic thinking, except you reject reality with a supernatural twist.
4)... a disinformationist, somehow compensated for rejecting reality in a public forum to make reality rejection seem like a viable, mainstream position.
Cool.

My biggest complaint is the denier-walled focus on temperatures instead of moving on to solutions, especially re ocean acidification and sea-level rise.

Since: May 13

North Miami Beach, FL

#29374 Sep 3, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>
Dumbazz denier fallacy #2 - "It's cold somewhere ..." raises its ugly head yet again.
Still unanswered is why you reach conclusions on the realities of AGW that are contrary to MOUNTAINS of science based on cherry-picked things like the number of predicted hurricanes.
It's like denying that objects fall because you saw a helium balloon.
Actually, there's no need to answer. There are only a few answers and you'll never admit to any of them. You're either:
1)... a paranoid, conspiracy theorist wingnut devoid of any ability to assess evidence or acknowledge refutations. IOW, exactly like a troll except you're so irrational that you actually believe what you claim to believe.
2)... an ideologue, so wedded to their ideology that even science and objective reality must take a back seat.
3)... a religious fundy that is likewise helpless in the grip of dogmatic thinking, except you reject reality with a supernatural twist.
4)... a disinformationist, somehow compensated for rejecting reality in a public forum to make reality rejection seem like a viable, mainstream position.
thethirdrail

Hear Ye Hear Hear Ye you are still behind the times---Alaska in in
in August had a big Snowstorm One of my sources for
knowledge of Scientific Research is that Liberal Bible Bible--the National Geographic Magazine
that recently --- reported that such things as solar activity
on the sun have A Lot More Affect on On Our Weather patterns
than Previously thought . You Obviously don't even keep up with
your own Liberal Liberal sources
Ask Ask Ask the People Of Florida--the Carribean -- and Mexico etc.How they
are affected by the Number of Hurricians In a Given Year.
Remember Katerina--- Sandy---Andrew...
Paranoid Conspiracy??? Didn't Obama get hold of Bush's
Weather Machine ( remember Katrena I'm Sure You Believed that one)
and directed it against BP.
Kyle

United States

#29375 Sep 3, 2013
thethirdrail wrote:
<quoted text>
thethirdrail
Hear Ye Hear Hear Ye you are still behind the times---Alaska in in
in August had a big Snowstorm One of my sources for
knowledge of Scientific Research is that Liberal Bible Bible--the National Geographic Magazine
that recently --- reported that such things as solar activity
on the sun have A Lot More Affect on On Our Weather patterns
than Previously thought . You Obviously don't even keep up with
your own Liberal Liberal sources
Ask Ask Ask the People Of Florida--the Carribean -- and Mexico etc.How they
are affected by the Number of Hurricians In a Given Year.
Remember Katerina--- Sandy---Andrew...
Paranoid Conspiracy??? Didn't Obama get hold of Bush's
Weather Machine ( remember Katrena I'm Sure You Believed that one)
and directed it against BP.

As is easily predicted, you simply chose to repeat dumbazz denier fallacy #2, invoked the same cherry-picked cherry (while ignoring that it's been revealed as such), nlatyeeing on about it in a desperate fit of hand waving, and purposely misinterpreted a popular media headline (yes, I read it).

That's good evidence that you're far more dishonest than irrational, which is evidence for you fitting that last category of denier.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29376 Sep 3, 2013
thethirdrail wrote:
<quoted text>
thethirdrail
Hear Ye Hear Hear Ye you are still behind the times---Alaska in in
in August had a big Snowstorm One of my sources for
knowledge of Scientific Research is that Liberal Bible Bible--the National Geographic Magazine
that recently --- reported that such things as solar activity
on the sun have A Lot More Affect on On Our Weather patterns
than Previously thought . You Obviously don't even keep up with
your own Liberal Liberal sources
Ask Ask Ask the People Of Florida--the Carribean -- and Mexico etc.How they
are affected by the Number of Hurricians In a Given Year.
Remember Katerina--- Sandy---Andrew...
Paranoid Conspiracy??? Didn't Obama get hold of Bush's
Weather Machine ( remember Katrena I'm Sure You Believed that one)
and directed it against BP.
If you stutter when you type, there's something wrong with your motor skills.

Remember-"affect"-ve rb
-"effect"-noun

What part of Alaska? You do know the state is roughly one-third the size of the continental US, don't you? That's a pretty big place. Lots can happen. Especially since most of it is above the 60th parallel and full of high mountains. Do you think snowstorms are rare in a mountainous region near the Arctic Circle any time of the year?

Did Obama get hold of Bush's Weather Machine (I didn't know Bush had a one!) and direct it against BP? Is that from Alex Jones or Glen Beck

For ten points, choose the correct spelling:

Katerina
Katrena
Cattreena
Katrina
Qattrenna
SpaceBlues

United States

#29377 Sep 3, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
So much stupidity...so little time.(sigh)
Ditto.

How can they afford to be so?
SpaceBlues

United States

#29378 Sep 3, 2013
The deniers should learn this:

RAPIDLY rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are causing a potential catastrophe in our oceans as they become more acidic, scientists have warned.

Hans Poertner, professor of marine biology at the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany, and co-author of a new study of the phenomenon, said:“The current rate of change is likely to be more than 10 times faster than it has been in any of the evolutionary crises in the earth’s history.”

Sea water is naturally slightly alkaline, but as oceans absorb carbon dioxide from the air, their pH level falls gradually. Under the rapid escalation of greenhouse gas emissions, ocean acidification is gathering pace and many forms of marine life – especially species that build calcium-based shells – are under threat.

Poertner said that if emissions continue to rise at “business as usual” rates, this would be potentially catastrophic for some species. Acidification is just one of a broader range of the problems facing the oceans and the combination of different effects is increasing the threat. Poertner said:“We are already seeing warm water coral reefs on a downslide due to a combination of various stressors, including (rising) temperature. Ocean acidification is still early in the process (but) it will exacerbate these effects as it develops and we will see more calcifying species suffering.”
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29379 Sep 3, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Ditto.
How can they afford to be so?
Obvious candidates for the Darwin Award.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29380 Sep 3, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>
Then point to it.:)
I accept all of your concessions, lying troll.
what concessions, son??

what are you talking about??

did you draw another conclusion based on your opinions as opposed to facts??

you, and your crowd, seem to do a lot of that!!!

pssst.....no hurricanes in august, tornadic idiot!!

LOL

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29381 Sep 3, 2013
poor little alarmists.

i don't abhor you all, but i pity you.

LOL

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29382 Sep 3, 2013
lol!!!!

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#29383 Sep 3, 2013
come on, son!!!

you can do better than that!!

judge its???

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#29384 Sep 4, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
The deniers should learn this:
RAPIDLY rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are causing a potential catastrophe in our oceans as they become more acidic, scientists have warned. Hans Poertner, professor of marine biology at the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany, and co-author of a new study of the phenomenon, said:“The current rate of change is likely to be more than 10 times faster than it has been in any of the evolutionary crises in the earth’s history.” Sea water is naturally slightly alkaline, but as oceans absorb carbon dioxide from the air, their pH level falls gradually. Under the rapid escalation of greenhouse gas emissions, ocean acidification is gathering pace and many forms of marine life – especially species that build calcium-based shells – are under threat.
Poertner said that if emissions continue to rise at “business as usual” rates, this would be potentially catastrophic for some species. Acidification is just one of a broader range of the problems facing the oceans and the combination of different effects is increasing the threat. Poertner said:“We are already seeing warm water coral reefs on a downslide due to a combination of various stressors, including (rising) temperature. Ocean acidification is still early in the process (but) it will exacerbate these effects as it develops and we will see more calcifying species suffering.”
Sea water is alkaline and calcium based shells require CO2 to form.

Since: May 13

North Miami Beach, FL

#29385 Sep 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you stutter when you type, there's something wrong with your motor skills.
Remember-"affect"-ve rb
-"effect"-noun
What part of Alaska? You do know the state is roughly one-third the size of the continental US, don't you? That's a pretty big place. Lots can happen. Especially since most of it is above the 60th parallel and full of high mountains. Do you think snowstorms are rare in a mountainous region near the Arctic Circle any time of the year?
Did Obama get hold of Bush's Weather Machine (I didn't know Bush had a one!) and direct it against BP? Is that from Alex Jones or Glen Beck
For ten points, choose the correct spelling:
Katerina
Katrena
Cattreena
Katrina
Qattrenna
thethirdrail
What Part of Alaska??? Northern Alaska In In In August August
the temperature dropped to 15 Degrees-now if you use old Math to
Measure Temperature you get one of the Coldest drop in temperature
recorded in Northern Alaska Now that's Cooooold However if
you use the Democrats New Math to measure temperature I'm sure
you would still say that's hot. Duhhh

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#29386 Sep 4, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Sea water is alkaline and calcium based shells require CO2 to form.
Maybe you need to do an experiment, brian?
Long term shells experiment shows the influence of a decreasing pH on shells of marine organisms mainly made of limestone.
http://www.epoca-project.eu/index.php/what-do...
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#29387 Sep 4, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Sea water is alkaline..
Yes. And it must be even more alkaline to produce carbonate shells than it is under acidification. Acidification says nothing about the Ph except that it is getting lower (more acid, less base)
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text> calcium based shells require CO2 to form.
Yes. Did you have a point?? They form quite well under 280 ppm of atmospheric CO2. They form less well with 400 ppm due to acidification. As usual you make statements that are true in detail but say nothing meaningful.

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