Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation. Full Story
DFL Waste

Minneapolis, MN

#25569 May 11, 2013
Ice out ALL TIME RECORDS.

Snowing in Minnesota May 11.

This would only happen with Global Cooling.
Neither of my Teeth

Seattle, WA

#25570 May 11, 2013
What Does Climate Change Mean for Minnesota
The problem
Increase in greenhouse gas emissions

Like windows in a greenhouse, carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere traps the sun's heat and insulates the planet. Minnesota's carbon dioxide emissions have increased 37 percent over the past 20 years, according to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency.

Increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are warming the planet. Carbon dioxide comes primarily from the burning of fossil fuels, such as exhaust from vehicles and coal burned to generate electricity. Changes in the climate pose significant environmental and economic threats to communities in Minnesota and throughout the world.
Warmer temperatures

Minnesota has warmed an average of one degree Fahrenheit during the past century. Parts of northern Minnesota have warmed five degrees Fahrenheit or more during the winter months. As the warming continues, northern cities like Hibbing may develop climates more similar to the current climate of Albert Lea or Des Moines, Iowa.
What does climate change mean for Minnesota?

Climate change is already observable. Animal and plant habitats are shifting, weather patterns are changing, and severe storms and droughts are becoming more common.
litesong

Everett, WA

#25571 May 11, 2013
dfl 2 b a waste wrote:
Snowing in Minnesota May 11.
This would only happen with Global Cooling.
Posted often the error of toxic topix AGW deniers.

AGW energy enhanced warm fronts push hard into the Arctic, one of the causes of the dramatic high Arctic warming. Simultaneously, the warm fronts vigorously push Arctic cold fronts to the south, causing record colds as far south as Mexico, Central America, China, India, or Africa.

Truly,'dfl 2 b a waste' earns its name,'did find learning 2 b a waste'.
litesong

Everett, WA

#25572 May 11, 2013
dfl 2 b a waste wrote:
Ignorance can't be made up, it's born in!!
Erroneous philosophy of a toxic topix AGW denier, named,'did find learning 2 b a waste'.
toxic topix AGW denier 'did find learning 2 b a waste' used his philosophy as an excuse not to learn.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#25573 May 11, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
And many deniers act on fear , not reason, and certainly not science.
There's been no experimental tests of climate change mitigation; there is no science. We fear higher taxes, intrusive regulations and wasteful government spending, you fear catastrophic man made climate change. The difference is, nobody's ever seen a catastrophic man made climate change event but we've all seen taxes, intrusive regulations and waste in government.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25574 May 11, 2013
Do your test, post the results.... Nothing in life is free, welfare fool.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#25575 May 11, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>There's been no experimental tests of climate change mitigation; there is no science..
Disgusting!

You are not qualified to say this. What business of yours is that you lie about science!

You have repeated this more than 41 thousand times over many years. You are devoid of any integrity.

You are dismissed as a human being.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#25576 May 11, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Disgusting! You are not qualified to say this. What business of yours is that you lie about science! You have repeated this more than 41 thousand times over many years. You are devoid of any integrity. You are dismissed as a human being.
The scientific method demands theories are tested, not taken on faith:

1. Observe some aspect of the universe.

2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.

3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.

4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.

5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.

http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_...

If you disagree, please cite the most compelling experiment for climate change mitigation you've found.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25578 May 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The scientific method demands theories are tested, not taken on faith:
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.
http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_...
If you disagree, please cite the most compelling experiment for climate change mitigation you've found.
Hung by your own petard, retard!

"4. Test those predictions by experiments OR*FURTHER*OBSERVATIONS and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results."

DONE!

The most compelling OBSERVATIONS that argue for climate change mitigation are all over the Web. Look it up, dear.

But you already believe in mitigation, in your own words:

"Using fossil fuel helps free ancient carbon back into the atmosphere where it can do some good. Freeing carbon dioxide into the air helps mitigate climate change against global cooling; the well known ice age climate scenario."
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25579 May 12, 2013
Kerry Emanuel registered as a Republican as soon he turned 18, in 1973.

Back then, Emanuel saw the Republican Party as the political fit for a data-driven scientist. Today, the professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology is considered one of the United States’ foremost authorities on climate change—particularly on how rising carbon pollution will increase the intensity of hurricanes.

In January 2012, just before South Carolina’s Republican presidential primary, the Charleston-based Christian Coalition of America, one of the most influential advocacy groups in conservative politics, flew Emanuel down to meet with the GOP presidential candidates. Perhaps an unlikely prophet of doom where global warming is concerned, the coalition has begun to push Republicans to take action on climate change, out of worry that coming catastrophes could hit the next generation hard, especially the world’s poor.

The meetings didn’t take.“[Newt] Gingrich and [Mitt] Romney understood,… and I think they even believed the evidence and understood the risk,” Emanuel says.“But they were so terrified by the extremists in their party that in the primaries they felt compelled to deny it. Which is not good leadership, good integrity. I got a low impression of them as leaders.” Throughout the Republican presidential primaries, every candidate but one—former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, who was knocked out of the race at the start—questioned, denied, or outright mocked the science of climate change.

Soon after his experience in South Carolina, Emanuel changed his lifelong Republican Party registration to independent.“The idea that you could look a huge amount of evidence straight in the face and, for purely ideological reasons, deny it, is anathema to me,” he says.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/the-c...

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#25580 May 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The scientific method demands theories are tested, not taken on faith:
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.
http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_...
If you disagree, please cite the most compelling experiment for climate change mitigation you've found.
some conclusions/course of action don't require experimentation to prove. We know climate change is the result of an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. Simple logic, probably something you lack, tells us that reducing the amount of CO2 we put into the atmosphere will reduce the rate of global warming

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25581 May 12, 2013
DFL Waste wrote:
Ice out ALL TIME RECORDS.
Snowing in Minnesota May 11.
This would only happen with Global Cooling.
Are you sure that you don't want to edit your talking points after checking the weather there? Here's the weather forecast for Minnesota this Mother's Day week; May 12, 2013. Have a happy Mother's Day! Check this out: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USMN050...

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25582 May 12, 2013
The most successful venture capitalist in America's history just took a giant step away from fossil fuels. "America’s wind energy boom is about to deliver the biggest economic investment in Iowa’s history — and blow a whole lot of cheap, clean electricity into the appliances and lightbulbs of the state’s residents.

Warren Buffett’s MidAmerican Energy Co. announced it would spend $1.9 billion building new wind turbines in the state, increasing the amount of wind energy generated in Iowa to about 6,000 megawatts, up from 5,000 megawatts today, according to a report in the Des Moines Register. The state aims to have 10,000 megawatts of wind operating by 2020. " Check this out: http://grist.org/news/1-9-billion-wind-projec...

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#25583 May 12, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
The most successful venture capitalist in America's history just took a giant step away from fossil fuels. "America’s wind energy boom is about to deliver the biggest economic investment in Iowa’s history — and blow a whole lot of cheap, clean electricity into the appliances and lightbulbs of the state’s residents.
Warren Buffett’s MidAmerican Energy Co. announced it would spend $1.9 billion building new wind turbines in the state, increasing the amount of wind energy generated in Iowa to about 6,000 megawatts, up from 5,000 megawatts today, according to a report in the Des Moines Register. The state aims to have 10,000 megawatts of wind operating by 2020. " Check this out: http://grist.org/news/1-9-billion-wind-projec...
I think it's great when free market capitalism makes the choices and investment as opposed to government mandates and added taxation.

We shall see how it goes.....but don't count on the electricity via wind turbines being "cheaper" for the end user. Just saying.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25584 May 12, 2013
You don't think, you parrot rhetoric....

Without government tax & investment all you have is sweat shops & 3rd world work.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#25585 May 12, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
You don't think, you parrot rhetoric....
Without government tax & investment all you have is sweat shops & 3rd world work.
it's obvious what rhetoric you're parroting, isn't it, socialist slime?
the government is your meal ticket.....and you're fine with it. lol
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25586 May 12, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's great when free market capitalism makes the choices and investment as opposed to government mandates and added taxation.
We shall see how it goes.....but don't count on the electricity via wind turbines being "cheaper" for the end user. Just saying.
Funny how a conservative ideologue can contradict himself.

You favor free market capitalism investment and you doubt it at the same time. One of the tenets of capitalism is producing a product that is competitive, but you don't have faith that this "new" product will be cheaper and cleaner.

I include cleaner because we don't always weigh a product's worth just in dollars. After completion, a wind farm would require a few maintenance trucks and would make a whooshing sound. A coal plant would require trainloads of coal and would produce CO2. Many customers might consider a few cents more per kilowatt worth it, thereby still making it competitive.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25587 May 12, 2013
The Fact that Republicans don't want you to see. Check this out: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/11/feder... "According to a report released by the Congressional Budget Office, the federal deficit fell 32% during the first seven months of the government’s fiscal year, compared to the same period last year. The CBO attributes the drop to an increase in tax revenue, brought on mostly by the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, and other tax increases that went into effect in January as part of the fiscal cliff deal. Tax revenue also went up due to a falling unemployment rate." ... "In 2009, during the height of the economic and financial crisis, the deficit was 10% of GDP. For fiscal year 2014, the CBO projects it to be around 5.3% of GDP, and by 2015, a mere 2.4% of GDP. These are the annual deficits, not the total amount of the national debt. The national debt sits at 76.3% of GDP today, and is projected to fall to 73.1% of GDP by 2018. That projection assumes no changes to current laws, including the sequester." Nice job, President Obama! Swish! A Slam Dunk Victory for America's Economy. The GOP just can't keep a cool, smart President from doing good for the country no matter how hard they try to block his every move.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25588 May 12, 2013
But it's all getting cheaper all the time....

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/05/06/1...

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#25589 May 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how a conservative ideologue can contradict himself.
You favor free market capitalism investment and you doubt it at the same time. One of the tenets of capitalism is producing a product that is competitive, but you don't have faith that this "new" product will be cheaper and cleaner.
I include cleaner because we don't always weigh a product's worth just in dollars. After completion, a wind farm would require a few maintenance trucks and would make a whooshing sound. A coal plant would require trainloads of coal and would produce CO2. Many customers might consider a few cents more per kilowatt worth it, thereby still making it competitive.
i didn't contradict myself,son.....even with your ad-lib slant on my post.
you should probably assume less and fact find more. it could only help.

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