Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 36891 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#25580 May 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The scientific method demands theories are tested, not taken on faith:
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.
http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_...
If you disagree, please cite the most compelling experiment for climate change mitigation you've found.
some conclusions/course of action don't require experimentation to prove. We know climate change is the result of an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. Simple logic, probably something you lack, tells us that reducing the amount of CO2 we put into the atmosphere will reduce the rate of global warming

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Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25581 May 12, 2013
DFL Waste wrote:
Ice out ALL TIME RECORDS.
Snowing in Minnesota May 11.
This would only happen with Global Cooling.
Are you sure that you don't want to edit your talking points after checking the weather there? Here's the weather forecast for Minnesota this Mother's Day week; May 12, 2013. Have a happy Mother's Day! Check this out: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USMN050...

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Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25582 May 12, 2013
The most successful venture capitalist in America's history just took a giant step away from fossil fuels. "America’s wind energy boom is about to deliver the biggest economic investment in Iowa’s history — and blow a whole lot of cheap, clean electricity into the appliances and lightbulbs of the state’s residents.

Warren Buffett’s MidAmerican Energy Co. announced it would spend $1.9 billion building new wind turbines in the state, increasing the amount of wind energy generated in Iowa to about 6,000 megawatts, up from 5,000 megawatts today, according to a report in the Des Moines Register. The state aims to have 10,000 megawatts of wind operating by 2020. " Check this out: http://grist.org/news/1-9-billion-wind-projec...

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Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#25583 May 12, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
The most successful venture capitalist in America's history just took a giant step away from fossil fuels. "America’s wind energy boom is about to deliver the biggest economic investment in Iowa’s history — and blow a whole lot of cheap, clean electricity into the appliances and lightbulbs of the state’s residents.
Warren Buffett’s MidAmerican Energy Co. announced it would spend $1.9 billion building new wind turbines in the state, increasing the amount of wind energy generated in Iowa to about 6,000 megawatts, up from 5,000 megawatts today, according to a report in the Des Moines Register. The state aims to have 10,000 megawatts of wind operating by 2020. " Check this out: http://grist.org/news/1-9-billion-wind-projec...
I think it's great when free market capitalism makes the choices and investment as opposed to government mandates and added taxation.

We shall see how it goes.....but don't count on the electricity via wind turbines being "cheaper" for the end user. Just saying.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25584 May 12, 2013
You don't think, you parrot rhetoric....

Without government tax & investment all you have is sweat shops & 3rd world work.

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Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#25585 May 12, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
You don't think, you parrot rhetoric....
Without government tax & investment all you have is sweat shops & 3rd world work.
it's obvious what rhetoric you're parroting, isn't it, socialist slime?
the government is your meal ticket.....and you're fine with it. lol
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25586 May 12, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's great when free market capitalism makes the choices and investment as opposed to government mandates and added taxation.
We shall see how it goes.....but don't count on the electricity via wind turbines being "cheaper" for the end user. Just saying.
Funny how a conservative ideologue can contradict himself.

You favor free market capitalism investment and you doubt it at the same time. One of the tenets of capitalism is producing a product that is competitive, but you don't have faith that this "new" product will be cheaper and cleaner.

I include cleaner because we don't always weigh a product's worth just in dollars. After completion, a wind farm would require a few maintenance trucks and would make a whooshing sound. A coal plant would require trainloads of coal and would produce CO2. Many customers might consider a few cents more per kilowatt worth it, thereby still making it competitive.

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Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25587 May 12, 2013
The Fact that Republicans don't want you to see. Check this out: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/11/feder... "According to a report released by the Congressional Budget Office, the federal deficit fell 32% during the first seven months of the government’s fiscal year, compared to the same period last year. The CBO attributes the drop to an increase in tax revenue, brought on mostly by the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, and other tax increases that went into effect in January as part of the fiscal cliff deal. Tax revenue also went up due to a falling unemployment rate." ... "In 2009, during the height of the economic and financial crisis, the deficit was 10% of GDP. For fiscal year 2014, the CBO projects it to be around 5.3% of GDP, and by 2015, a mere 2.4% of GDP. These are the annual deficits, not the total amount of the national debt. The national debt sits at 76.3% of GDP today, and is projected to fall to 73.1% of GDP by 2018. That projection assumes no changes to current laws, including the sequester." Nice job, President Obama! Swish! A Slam Dunk Victory for America's Economy. The GOP just can't keep a cool, smart President from doing good for the country no matter how hard they try to block his every move.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25588 May 12, 2013
But it's all getting cheaper all the time....

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/05/06/1...

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Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#25589 May 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how a conservative ideologue can contradict himself.
You favor free market capitalism investment and you doubt it at the same time. One of the tenets of capitalism is producing a product that is competitive, but you don't have faith that this "new" product will be cheaper and cleaner.
I include cleaner because we don't always weigh a product's worth just in dollars. After completion, a wind farm would require a few maintenance trucks and would make a whooshing sound. A coal plant would require trainloads of coal and would produce CO2. Many customers might consider a few cents more per kilowatt worth it, thereby still making it competitive.
i didn't contradict myself,son.....even with your ad-lib slant on my post.
you should probably assume less and fact find more. it could only help.

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Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#25590 May 12, 2013
gotta get to my big co2 producing wood pit fire outside. having a big cookout with many friends and family to celebrate mother's day.
happy mother's day to all you mom's out there!
SpaceBlues

United States

#25591 May 12, 2013
What's the true costs involved in owning mountains, decimating those mountains by electric power arriving from big power plants at far distances, killing, maiming lots of people while ruining the nature and its creatures including those flying, burrowing, swimming, etc etc etc etc...??
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25592 May 12, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>i didn't contradict myself,son.....even with your ad-lib slant on my post.
you should probably assume less and fact find more. it could only help.
uh-huh
Serious

Saint Paul, MN

#25593 May 12, 2013
If mankind wants to reduce Global Warming QUICKLY all that needs to be done is GROUND ALL AIRPLANES.

Remember the day after 9/11 with no planes flying the temps went up during daylight hours and went down at night.

Instant climate change for the better.

GROUND THEM ALL!!

Including Airforce One, the golfing mover..
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25594 May 12, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's great when free market capitalism makes the choices and investment as opposed to government mandates and added taxation.
We shall see how it goes.....but don't count on the electricity via wind turbines being "cheaper" for the end user. Just saying.
"I think it's great when free market capitalism makes the choices and investment but don't count on the electricity via wind turbines being "cheaper" for the end user."

That's what you were "Just saying."

son.

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Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25595 May 12, 2013
Serious wrote:
If mankind wants to reduce Global Warming QUICKLY all that needs to be done is GROUND ALL AIRPLANES.
Remember the day after 9/11 with no planes flying the temps went up during daylight hours and went down at night.
Instant climate change for the better.
GROUND THEM ALL!!
Including Airforce One, the golfing mover..
A better idea is Obama's carbon offsets , paying a price for the amount of carbon print for using Air Force One. Have the carbon offsets tax be mandatory, rather than voluntary, for all airplane flights that burn fossil fuels.

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Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#25596 May 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"I think it's great when free market capitalism makes the choices and investment but don't count on the electricity via wind turbines being "cheaper" for the end user."
That's what you were "Just saying."
son.
"uh huh"!!!!!
this comes a little closer than what you were previously attempting to infer i said.
glad i could help you in curbing those silly assumptions, son.
keep going.....you're on the right track! maybe you'll get it right sooner than i thought possible.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#25597 May 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The scientific method demands theories are tested, not taken on faith:
1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.
http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_...
If you disagree, please cite the most compelling experiment for climate change mitigation you've found.
Until you respond meaningfully to the many, many refutations of your one, lame, dishonest argument, your your concession stands and you should simply stfu.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#25598 May 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I cited an experiment:
"This paper presents the results of a [field] experiment that used social marketing to introduce a new ride program into three rural communities...."
We've had years of tests for our drunk driving laws that show harsh penalties deter drunk driving. We've never had an experimental test on any man made greenhouse gas emission or capture that's shown any climate change. See the difference?
Listen up, ahole. I've told you repeatedly what a meaningful experimental mitigation of GH warming would have to be. I ask you again, ahole, are you on board to do it? If not, stop demanding that which you reject and stfu.
Kyle

Columbia City, IN

#25601 May 12, 2013
DFL Waste wrote:
It may NEVER MELT!!
The next Ice Age may be upon us..
LOOK OUT, I see a glacier headed this way..
You dumb phocking Libertards are truely clueless.
Moron ignores the reason for third time in a row.

Moron's concession is final.

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