Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

Full story: TwinCities.com

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.
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“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25422 May 6, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>so true!!! and there are just enough malthusian's to elect the one's who will answer the bell.
just like obama did with gitmo. <snicker>
or how his stimulus spending would keep the unemployment rate below 7% <heeheehee>
or how .....on and on and on.
how can people be so blinded to think man can do anything with the natural occurances(sp?) of climate?
this is a stretch by the politicians......but very gullible on the part of the proletariat!!
Unemployment levels have dropped to 7.5% and the stock market broke all previous records by topping 15,000 for the first time. And if you argue that Obama's economic Stimulus policies are taking too long to get the unemployment number down the just consider how faster the economic recovery would have come if Congress had given him the entire amount that he had wanted to spend on America's rebuilding and growth. No one is talking about doing anything about 'natural occurrences of climate', but the human induced climate change caused by dumping billions of tons of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere and acidifying oceans from burning of fossil fuels in our cars, trucks, coal-fired power plants, etc.-- we zoomed past 450ppm and threatening to reach 500ppm and higher by 2050--the last time the planet was this hot, molten rivers flowed down volcanic mountains and humans did not even exist. Also, Malthus was proved right. "Demand for food is on the rise worldwide, but this demand is causing global environmental dilemmas. One guest speaker at my university cited the famed scholar and political economist Thomas Malthus, who suggested in the early 19th century that “population increase is exponential but increase in food production is linear”— thus concluding the world must ultimately starve" (Check this out: http://grist.org/article/2011-10-06-food-stud... )

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25423 May 6, 2013
Why do conservatives contradict themselves so much? They want America to take back their leadership position on politics and the economy in the world ,but they disparage every attempt by Obama to do so by more investment in education, science, and encouraging the innovative business prowess to invent new adaptive renewable energy alternatives. "On the right, both climate change and questions about global limits on oil production have exited the realm of empirical debate and become full-blown fronts in the culture wars. You're required to mock them regardless of whether it makes any sense. And it's weird as hell. I mean, why would you disparage development of renewable energy? If humans are the ultimate creators, why not create innovative new sources of renewable energy instead of digging up every last fluid ounce of oil on the planet?' Check this out: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/04...
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#25424 May 6, 2013
We humans release carbon dioxide into the air, too, by burning fossil fuels. This activity has caused the Keeling Curve to creep ever upward since 1958: The lows get a little higher each year, as do the highs.

Because carbon dioxide typically peaks in May, researchers are expecting the Keeling Curve to break a milestone of 400 ppm this year.(If not, the number will almost certainly be reached in May 2014.) As of May 1 of this year, the last day data was available, the Mauna Loa observatory recorded 399.39 ppm of carbon dioxide in the air.

Once carbon dioxide hits 400 ppm, the milestone will have symbolic significance, according to Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University.

"It is a reminder of just how uncontrolled this dangerous experiment we're playing with the planet really is," Mann told LiveScience.
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#25425 May 6, 2013
LOL. Lift the curtain off the icon markers. Deniers are desperate liars.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#25426 May 6, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> Unemployment levels have dropped to 7.5% and the stock market broke all previous records by topping 15,000 for the first time. And if you argue that Obama's economic Stimulus policies are taking too long to get the unemployment number down the just consider how faster the economic recovery would have come if Congress had given him the entire amount that he had wanted to spend on America's rebuilding and growth. No one is talking about doing anything about 'natural occurrences of climate', but the human induced climate change caused by dumping billions of tons of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere and acidifying oceans from burning of fossil fuels in our cars, trucks, coal-fired power plants, etc.-- we zoomed past 450ppm and threatening to reach 500ppm and higher by 2050--the last time the planet was this hot, molten rivers flowed down volcanic mountains and humans did not even exist. Also, Malthus was proved right. "Demand for food is on the rise worldwide, but this demand is causing global environmental dilemmas. One guest speaker at my university cited the famed scholar and political economist Thomas Malthus, who suggested in the early 19th century that “population increase is exponential but increase in food production is linear”— thus concluding the world must ultimately starve" (Check this out: http://grist.org/article/2011-10-06-food-stud... )
unemployment levels have "dropped" due to people falling out of the work force. they're no longer on the rolls. real non farm payrolls aren't even keeping up with population growth! the stock market is rising.....but that has nothing to do with obama...it's all with bernanke. TRUST ME,I DON'T MIND. Easy money has made for great corporate balance sheets and profitability. The stock market rally has little, if nothing, to do with the economy and economic growth! You did know that, didn't you?

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#25427 May 6, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
We humans release carbon dioxide into the air, too, by burning fossil fuels. This activity has caused the Keeling Curve to creep ever upward since 1958: The lows get a little higher each year, as do the highs.
Because carbon dioxide typically peaks in May, researchers are expecting the Keeling Curve to break a milestone of 400 ppm this year.(If not, the number will almost certainly be reached in May 2014.) As of May 1 of this year, the last day data was available, the Mauna Loa observatory recorded 399.39 ppm of carbon dioxide in the air.
Once carbon dioxide hits 400 ppm, the milestone will have symbolic significance, according to Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University.
"It is a reminder of just how uncontrolled this dangerous experiment we're playing with the planet really is," Mann told LiveScience.
we humans release co2 when we exhale. what's next....a carbon tax on breathing?!?! because you think your faith based science is sound?
where's the model...the test...the evidence that mitigation will alter your "guaranteed calamity"?
you people need to wake up before you place all your trust in people who haven't proven a thing....yet demand so much of your freedoms and rights.
if it was as urgent as they say, and you believe, we wouldn't be having this debate! because the empirical evidence and testing would be there.....which it's not!

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#25428 May 6, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
LOL. Lift the curtain off the icon markers. Deniers are desperate liars.
yet you can't prove anyone is lying any more than you can prove your scorched earth theory.

stop it with your emotional theatrics....you aren't helping your side of the debate. really!:-D
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25429 May 6, 2013
Poor child, that cannot use English or logic rules... Boring Brain Gone....

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#25430 May 6, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Poor child, that cannot use English or logic rules... Boring Brain Gone....
you must be talking about "litesong"! i couldn't agree more. i think the lapdog resides in your state....could you reach out and try to help it. a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#25431 May 6, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>yet you can't prove anyone is lying any more than you can prove your scorched earth theory.
stop it with your emotional theatrics....you aren't helping your side of the debate. really!:-D
Wake up from your sleep.

There's no debate. Facts have been out a long time. Go back to Callendar's work if you like. Read more:

http://grist.org/news/we-have-known-about-cli...
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#25432 May 6, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>i checked....there aren't any studies on what i asked about.
maybe al gore is hiding all your notes.....after all he invented the internet.
You must need to contact Mr. Gore for some Google lessons.
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#25433 May 6, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>we humans release co2 when we exhale. what's next....a carbon tax on breathing?!?! because you think your faith based science is sound?
where's the model...the test...the evidence that mitigation will alter your "guaranteed calamity"?
you people need to wake up before you place all your trust in people who haven't proven a thing....yet demand so much of your freedoms and rights.
if it was as urgent as they say, and you believe, we wouldn't be having this debate! because the empirical evidence and testing would be there.....which it's not!
You sound selfish in your desperation.

No one should believe your false drama. Our humanity is on a destructive path. Yet you play word games.

Learn some facts. You are annoyingly cruel.
DFL Waste

Minneapolis, MN

#25434 May 6, 2013
ALL TIME RECORDS set for COLD AND SNOW!!

Global COOLING!!
litesong

Everett, WA

#25435 May 6, 2013
duffelbagwaste wrote:
ALL TIME RECORDS set for COLD AND SNOW!!
Global COOLING!!
Of course not. AGW energy enhanced warm fronts push hard above the 80th parallel, causing 180 of the last 220 days to be warmer than average by as much as 14degC. With such excess energy, AGW drives Arctic cold fronts to the south, cooling the toes of toxic topix AGW deniers.

In the middle of January 2009, AGW energy enhanced warm fronts stopped Arctic freezing for 11 days( even melted some Arctic ice). While melting ice in the high Arctic, cold Arctic air was driven hard to the south, setting Maine's all-time temperature low,-50degF..

Simple as that. AGW excess warmed weather is driven into the Arctic. The warm fronts continue driving, but drive Arctic cold fronts hard to the south.......... setting cold temperature records.

toxic topix AGW deniers are stupid. That's why few of them took science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, or pre-calc for their hi skule DEE-plooomaas.
litesong

Everett, WA

#25436 May 6, 2013
middleofthedownwronggully wrote:
the lapdog .......
You wish. However, this 'lapdo ' keeps castrating "middleofthedownwronggull y". All "middleofthedownwronggull y" has left, is shreds. That's OK. At 14, "middleofthedownwronggull y" is supposed to be a 'good boy'. "middleofthedownwronggull y" can only be a 'good boy' physically, tho.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25437 May 7, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>
where's the model...the test...the evidence that mitigation will alter your "guaranteed calamity"?
you people need to wake up before you place all your trust in people who haven't proven a thing....yet demand so much of your freedoms and rights.
if it was as urgent as they say, and you believe, we wouldn't be having this debate! because the empirical evidence and testing would be there.....which it's not!
"The urgency of climate change mitigation is now far more apparent with new observations indicating that on many fronts, climate change and its impacts are occurring faster than expected. The global emission of heat trapping carbon dioxide has jumped to a record amount, according to the latest research conducted by US Department of Energy. Data suggests that the emissions of greenhouse gases have crossed the worst case scenario limits outlined by climatologists." ..."By this time, you should have felt the need for climate change mitigation and proposing measures which can curb the emission of greenhouse gases into atmosphere. Outlined below are some of the measures suggested by IPCC:

Implementing cost-effective fuel switching measures from high carbon fuels to low or zero carbon fuels such as renewables.
Implementing energy efficiency measures and providing global platforms for energy efficiency improvement programs.
Improving existing policies and practices to limit emissions e.g controlling subsidies on fuels.
Measures to raise and expand carbon sinks that trap carbon dioxide such as forest management and proper land management etc.
Improving technology and developing techniques to control methane, nitrous oxide and other greenhouse gas emissions from the source.
Pre-planning for the adaptation to climate change consequences in the worst case scenario.
Promoting the use of non-fossil energy sources and conducting research to reduce emissions from existing fossil fuels.
Revising and implementing current energy efficiency standards globally to check emissions.
International collaboration among various climate groups and organizations to better understand the causes and impacts of climate change.
Continued research to reduce critical scientific uncertainties and improve existing climate models for better predictions of climate change.
Promoting environmental education and awareness training in schools and colleges for climate change and associated environmental issues.
Conducting volunteer programs and forming regional action groups to implement climate change mitigation measures." Check this out: http://www.environmentabout.com/1134/climate-...
Nonscense

Albuquerque, NM

#25438 May 7, 2013
Honest Liberal wrote:
These scientists are heros of person kind. They care about our planet and have no ulterior motive. We need to pass the Fairness Doctrine so Fox News and others bought by Big Oil will no longer brainwash the sheep.
The fact that so many here find this to be out-of-touch is proof enough there won't be enough ammunition.......to finish things off before the changing climate does.

Science to this crowd is exhausted by NASCAR.
Jenji

Portland, OR

#25439 May 7, 2013
Jeez, sounds like some people also must deny the existence of gravity, and still belong to the Flat Earth Society.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#25440 May 7, 2013
Jenji wrote:
Jeez, sounds like some people also must deny the existence of gravity, and still belong to the Flat Earth Society.
toxic topix AGW deniers denied science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc in their poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas. Lots them denied their hi skule DEE-plooomaas, all together.
Dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#25441 May 7, 2013
Death from extreme temps?
Will CAGW mean death by FIRE?
Will CAGW mean death by ICE?

Every science academy in the world agrees that the answer to both questions is... YES!

For all you "deniers"... read the studies from NASA, GISS, UEA, NOAA, IPCC, etc.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/05/07...

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