Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 36786 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Kyle

Rensselaer, IN

#25123 Apr 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
We have different goals, I say learn about your climate, live with it or move someplace better, quit whining about mitigating climate unless you can prove it would help.
This is where we differ. I like demonstrations, tests, trials or experiments, alarmists take their science on faith in consensus.
YOU "proved" it would help when you admitted that CO2 is a major climate driver. Do I need to post your own words back to you? You know, the ones that claim that CO2 - mere trace gas that it is (snicker)- is critical because of the warming effect that it produces? Hmmm?

As I've pointed out before - and you DISHONESTLY ignored - if it's critical to keep us warm, increasing it by 41%- and soon 100%- will keep us too warm - critically.

And as we've also pointed out to you - but you either ignore or give atrociously illogical responses - the proof, which YOU ADMIT, that CO2 is warming us is also proof that mitigation of CO2 would mitigate warming, UNLESS YOU'RE POSITING AN EXCEPTION TO THE LAWS OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.

I've also made that last point before, but you;re paid to well by Exxon to respond with any intellectual honesty whatsoever.
Kyle

Rensselaer, IN

#25124 Apr 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Remember when they tried to mitigate evolution and brought us eugenics? Why would you fall for the same lies again?
Obviously, Lyin' Brian is having trouble with the definition of "mitigate", as well as pulling the creatard trick of equating the misnomer social Darwinism with the facts of biological evolution.

He's also quite possibly tossing a bone to the creatards because they represent the climate denier base.

GTFA, Lyin' Brian; you conceded at least 100 times and you're embarrassing yourself and your employer's cause.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#25125 Apr 16, 2013
Climate scientists struggle to explain warming slowdown:
Often focused on century-long trends, most climate models failed to predict that the temperature rise would slow, starting around 2000...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/16/us-...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#25126 Apr 16, 2013
Kyle wrote:
YOU "proved" it would help when you admitted that CO2 is a major climate driver.
I wrote, CO2 is a climate driver, I don't know if it's significant or which way it drives climate, but CO2 is a climate force. Some O3 is a greenhouse gas too; don't panic. There are many climate drivers; I never wrote "CO2 is a major climate driver." That was Kyle, not me. I admitted CO2 is a greenhouse gas, like all the others.

Water vapor is a greenhouse gas and a significant climate driver. Water moves heat from the equator where the sunlight falls straight down to the poles where sunlight falls by. Lattitude drives climate, along with oceans, mountain ranges and continental plains are major climate drivers, CO2 not so much.

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Kyle wrote:
Do I need to post your own words back to you?
Please show me where I qualified a climate force as "major", please.

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Kyle wrote:
You know, the ones that claim that CO2 - mere trace gas that it is (snicker)- is critical because of the warming effect that it produces? Hmmm?
Along with all the other greenhouse gases, sure. If AGW theory is true then we are already mitigating climate against the known catastrophe of global cooling; the Ice age scenario. Nobody has seen a man made global climate change catastrophe, and I'm scouting front row tickets. This should be awesome!

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Kyle wrote:
As I've pointed out before - and you DISHONESTLY ignored - if it's critical to keep us warm, increasing it by 41%- and soon 100%- will keep us too warm - critically.
And as we've also pointed out to you - but you either ignore or give atrociously illogical responses - the proof, which YOU ADMIT, that CO2 is warming us is also proof that mitigation of CO2 would mitigate warming,
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Kyle wrote:
UNLESS YOU'RE POSITING AN EXCEPTION TO THE LAWS OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.
We'd never know how cause and effect applies to global climate unless we see experimental tests. Please post the most compelling experiment you've found for climate change mitigation. So far, I'm not sold.

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Kyle wrote:
I've also made that last point before, but you;re paid to well by Exxon to respond with any intellectual honesty whatsoever.
I don't even own Exxon stock or endorse them, I like BP, PTR, CLMT, HFC, OKE and BTE, I'm long on all of them.

Those companies I endorse, Kyle seems impressed with Exxon. XOM traded between $77.13 and $93.67 this year. Maybe he likes the price?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#25127 Apr 16, 2013
Kyle wrote:
Obviously, Lyin' Brian is having trouble with the definition of "mitigate", as well as pulling the creatard trick of equating the misnomer social Darwinism with the facts of biological evolution.
I'm calling eugenics, evolutionary mitigation. Then comparing that to climate change mitigation. I'm especially concerned about carbon taxes and regulations.

Deregulation mitigates economic stagnation. So does cutting taxes. Too bad, we can't afford to cut taxes.

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Kyle wrote:
He's also quite possibly tossing a bone to the creatards because they represent the climate denier base.
Creationism has more in common with man made global climate change catastrophe, then Kyle wants to admit. They both believe in an end of world event and make policy decisions based on that belief. Fascinating!

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Kyle wrote:
GTFA, Lyin' Brian; you conceded at least 100 times and you're embarrassing yourself and your employer's cause.
Every customer, vendor, truck driver, investor and employee profits from fossil fuel, it brings billions in taxes to our governments. The tax share is massive, it dominates the markets. We should deregulate and lower taxes on most markets to encourage economic growth.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#25128 Apr 16, 2013
liberals reign wrote:
Climate scientists struggle to explain warming slowdown:
toxic topix AGW deniers cling to the lower level of the Solar TSI, as if the solar irradiation will never rise again. But science shows the sun will continue warming in millennia ahead. But while conservative re-pubic-lick-uns in Minnesota cling to every Arctic cold front that AGW drives down from the NP, as their mantra, they fail to understand their snowfall is a gift from the warming Arctic energy, that more vigorously drives Arctic weather to the south.
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#25131 Apr 16, 2013
good research: which STAR conselation is YOUR OWN soul apart of, A star consolation is all YOUR Past lives.

IM DRACO consellation, I had 2 smaller concellations that were maliscious within.

If you make a smaller model and condition the lighting as the consellation passes sun and moon, WHICH IT HAS ITS OWN SUN AND but we see 2. You can see in shadow and lighting art several real formations, I am the progectory, as long as the light passes or my shadow stays formed I fight in space. WEHen the sun and moon reflections do not pass thru I fizzle out and turn to the next thing that it creates. MY image as Jaimie Drews in Madison Wisc not the online hooker or professor from other states. BUt even my current image is in the light and shadow effects, On any moment of the day as my human formation I do have capabilites of all those in creation form the reflective images in my consellation, but only upon apperition times, it is not a hold. So not practiced or beckoned, I do have a life too, and with that in mind, police and courts is fine when someone obstructs me or my children no time for others war.
Jaimie

Madison, WI

#25132 Apr 16, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying that Reuters isn't a valid source, or are you shooting the messenger?
Frank Reuter took my head off my spine in 1985, Now as a 44 year old women they are preparing surgical procedure to put it back on.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#25133 Apr 16, 2013
litesong wrote:
toxic topix AGW deniers cling to the lower level of the Solar TSI, as if the solar irradiation will never rise again. But science shows the sun will continue warming in millennia ahead. But while conservative re-pubic-lick-uns in Minnesota cling to every Arctic cold front that AGW drives down from the NP, as their mantra, they fail to understand their snowfall is a gift from the warming Arctic energy, that more vigorously drives Arctic weather to the south.
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'liberals reign' roots:
Are you saying that Reuters isn't a valid source, or are you shooting the messenger?
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litesong wrote:

What I say is that you don't know science, studied science or ever distinguished yourself in science.

Science deals in science, which is more complex than one article, & toxic topix AGW denier willful & purposeful mis-interpretation of articles.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#25134 Apr 16, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying that Reuters isn't a valid source, or are you shooting the messenger?
LIES-

Neither. Actually, we SHOULD be cooling now given the deep solar minimum in 2009 (& the expected long solar cycle now, before cycling back to solar max in the 2020s), Chinese pollution releasing reflective aerosols, & La Niña conditions. But we're not cooling; at MOST we're continuing to warm, but at less statistically significant rates.

The sun & El Niño WILL cycle back, & warming will be faster than ever. The Chinese are preparing to pass anti-pollution laws; their party leaders have to try to breathe the air in Beijing also, after all. Aerosols will decline & warming will speed up, just like what happened to us in the 1970s after we passed anti-pollution laws.

So the people who are arguing now that "warming has stopped" are just deluding themselves, & trying to delude the rest of us. It will only work on the gullible.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25136 Apr 16, 2013
Mitthead.....
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#25137 Apr 16, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Mitthead.....
Fat Obamabot...
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25139 Apr 17, 2013
Mitthead.....
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#25140 Apr 17, 2013
"The climate system is not quite so simple as people thought," said Bjorn Lomborg, a Danish statistician and author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist" who estimates that moderate warming will be beneficial for crop growth and human health.

Some experts say their trust in climate science has declined because of the many uncertainties. The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had to correct a 2007 report that exaggerated the pace of melt of the Himalayan glaciers and wrongly said they could all vanish by 2035.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25141 Apr 17, 2013
A single statistician, with an opinion !!! What a MORON !!!
Consistent

Grantsburg, WI

#25142 Apr 17, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
A single statistician, with an opinion !!! What a MORON !!!
Damn that Uncle Daddy!

"Neurotic anxiety is the unconscious worry that we will lose control of the id's urges, resulting in punishment for inappropriate behavior."

(To illustrate your shortcomings as an Illiterate, let me type a "Classic Slewsie'ism"....."LM AOROFL!~Fu")

il·lit·er·ate [ih-lit-er-it]

adjective

1. unable to read and write: an illiterate group.

2.having or demonstrating very little or no education.

3.showing lack of culture, especially in language and literature.

4.displaying a marked lack of knowledge in a particular field

noun

5.an illiterate person.

(We value the perspectives of yours, the Psychotics Perspective, written illegibly in Slewese')

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#25144 Apr 17, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
"The climate system is not quite so simple as people thought," said Bjorn Lomborg, a Danish statistician and author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist" who estimates that moderate warming will be beneficial for crop growth and human health.
Some experts say their trust in climate science has declined because of the many uncertainties. The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had to correct a 2007 report that exaggerated the pace of melt of the Himalayan glaciers and wrongly said they could all vanish by 2035.
BjØrn Lomborg makes good sense, and he has studies and tests that back up his ideas. Very refreshing change from climate change mitigation.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25145 Apr 17, 2013
Like ANY Danish "statistician" is better than hundreds of American scientists ??? Love your analogy, logic not so much, moron.

Cute, the spamming morons found each other...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#25147 Apr 18, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Like ANY Danish "statistician" is better than hundreds of American scientists ??? Love your analogy, logic not so much, moron. Cute, the spamming morons found each other...
Siegfried Fred Singer is an American scientist skeptical of global warming; all the opposition isn't Danish.

The sun controls climate, not man made greenhouse gases..
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25148 Apr 18, 2013
Like ANY Danish "statistician" is better than hundreds of American scientists ??? Love your analogy, logic not so much, moron. Cute, the spamming morons found each other...

Any of the opposition RESPECTED ?? Nope...

You're a dumb spammer, which is really sad....

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