Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

Full story: TwinCities.com

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Yes and all the useless hot air posted by the bushmister.
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Overall, winters have warmed about two to four degrees in the past 30 years or so. One good way to measure it is to look at these number of subzero lows that we're seeing at night. There are distinct trends that are emerging in the past 30 to 40 years toward fewer subzero low temperatures in Minnesota and the Twin Cities.
Quick example: this year we've had five days so far, last year we had three. That's a very low number. If you go back to the 1970s - the whole decade - we had 444 subzero days. During the 1980s we had 280, during the 1990s we had 256; down to 198 in the 2000s. That's a 57% drop in those subzero nights. If you look at that overall the trend lines show we could be down to around 10 on average per winter. We used to average about 30 back in the '70s and we could be maybe closer to zero by 2040. By 2040, in the Twin Cities we could be very close to few or any subzero nights if our current climate trends continue.
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Bushwhacker wrote:
Overall, winters have warmed about two to four degrees in the past 30 years or so. One good way to measure it is to look at these number of subzero lows that we're seeing at night. There are distinct trends that are emerging in the past 30 to 40 years toward fewer subzero low temperatures in Minnesota and the Twin Cities.
Quick example: this year we've had five days so far, last year we had three. That's a very low number. If you go back to the 1970s - the whole decade - we had 444 subzero days. During the 1980s we had 280, during the 1990s we had 256; down to 198 in the 2000s. That's a 57% drop in those subzero nights. If you look at that overall the trend lines show we could be down to around 10 on average per winter. We used to average about 30 back in the '70s and we could be maybe closer to zero by 2040. By 2040, in the Twin Cities we could be very close to few or any subzero nights if our current climate trends continue.
Most people don't realize that GHG theory states that warming will be greatest at night, in the winter, and near the poles. Warming will be least during the day, in the summer, and near the equator.

It's astounding to me that with all of the data showing precisely this taking place, denier wingnuts still claim that the sun is causing warming. If it were the sun, warming would be greatest during the day, in the summer, and near the equator.

Also, the upper atmosphere is cooling, as GHG theory predicts, instead of warming as it would if caused by the sun.

In other words, the lying wingnuts are proven wrong by four different data sets, but denier lies never die.
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PHD wrote:
Kyle wrote:
Well, nutters, nothing's changed here.
Yes folks as the above commander nuttier have posted it and the above remain the same. Why it has to be the commander nuttier it claims itís an auto engineer that designs all the recalls.
Yet another (dishonest) concession from the 100% science-free grand poohba of all nutters.

Thanks again. Don't stop now; maybe if you fail to support your wingnuttery with science 1000 times in a row, the intellectual bankruptcy of denial will even be obvious to a microencepholitic sloth like Ralph.
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Kyle wrote:
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Yet another (dishonest) concession from the 100% science-free grand poohba of all nutters.
Thanks again. Don't stop now; maybe if you fail to support your wingnuttery with science 1000 times in a row, the intellectual bankruptcy of denial will even be obvious to a microencepholitic sloth like Ralph.
Kyle wrote:
Well, nutters, nothing's changed here.
Yes folks as the above commander nuttier posted it. Why it has to be the commander nuttier it claims itís an auto engineer that designs all the recalls. The above engineer successfully bankrupts the Auto Ind. and is proud of it.
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Why not lie, nobody intelligent respects you anyway.
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If you most lie to get your respect due to your lack of intelligence well than carry on.
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"If you most lie...."

You make it EZ, to disregard your claptrap.

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Hey Liberal goofballs!!!

The Earth magnetic field had been weakening. And it had been shown that it allows the sun to have greater influence on Earth's temperature!

The really interesting thing is this: ever since Gauss first measured the strength of the field, it has been dropping. Over the 170 years or so since the first measurements, the main field has decayed by some 8 or 9% and this has led to all sorts of speculation as to whether we are heading for some big geomagnetic event, like a reversal. It is true that this is quite a large drop- if the geodynamo suddenly stopped the field would only decay quite slowly- about 1% per century- but it is also likely that this sort of variation is not uncommon. The big question is how long was this going on for before people were first able to measure it?

One more proof that Global Warming is just junk science for a socialist agenda!

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study
COPENHAGEN (AFP)-- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.
"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.

http://www.viewzone.com/magnetic.weather.html

ONCE AGAIN EVIDENCE THAT LIBERALS WILL IGNORE!
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"...that could challenge..."

Only "evidence" to a teabagger/moron.

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There is no experiment that shows climate change mitigation is feasible or even possible. That's how you can know it's a hoax.
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The only challenge is your less-on response so continue to lie trying to support your agenda.
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Hey Liberal goofballs!!!
The Earth magnetic field had been weakening. And it had been shown that it allows the sun to have greater influence on Earth's temperature!
The really interesting thing is this: ever since Gauss first measured the strength of the field, it has been dropping. Over the 170 years or so since the first measurements, the main field has decayed by some 8 or 9% and this has led to all sorts of speculation as to whether we are heading for some big geomagnetic event, like a reversal. It is true that this is quite a large drop- if the geodynamo suddenly stopped the field would only decay quite slowly- about 1% per century- but it is also likely that this sort of variation is not uncommon. The big question is how long was this going on for before people were first able to measure it?
One more proof that Global Warming is just junk science for a socialist agenda!
The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study
COPENHAGEN (AFP)-- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.
"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.
http://www.viewzone.com/magnetic.weather.html
ONCE AGAIN EVIDENCE THAT LIBERALS WILL IGNORE!
More utter nonsense from you Jose. "Liberals" don't "ignore" this evidence; it's been refuted. If you actually care to learn something, & see exactly why Svensmark is incorrect, read some science here:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/cosmic-rays-a...

You can select a basic, intermediate or advanced level for the science. Svensmark is just wrong. He's now publishing a book because he can't pass peer review. Other scientists are aware that he's wrong.

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Brian_G wrote:
There is no experiment that shows climate change mitigation is feasible or even possible. That's how you can know it's a hoax.
Good point!

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<quoted text>More utter nonsense from you Jose. "Liberals" don't "ignore" this evidence; it's been refuted. If you actually care to learn something, & see exactly why Svensmark is incorrect, read some science here:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/cosmic-rays-a...

You can select a basic, intermediate or advanced level for the science. Svensmark is just wrong. He's now publishing a book because he can't pass peer review. Other scientists are aware that he's wrong.
Anyone who does not agrees with Liberals is wrong. Yes, we already know that!

You do not need to remind us that anyone who disagree with Socialism is wrong. Also any one who likes Capitalism is wrong too, yes we know.

Yes, any one who voted for Mitt Romney is wrong, yes we know the drill.

Any one who disagrees with Global Warming is wrong! As also anyone who disagree with raising taxes!

Yes, we know the drill!
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martinezjosei wrote:
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Anyone who does not agrees with Liberals is wrong. Yes, we already know that!
You do not need to remind us that anyone who disagree with Socialism is wrong. Also any one who likes Capitalism is wrong too, yes we know.
Yes, any one who voted for Mitt Romney is wrong, yes we know the drill.
Any one who disagrees with Global Warming is wrong! As also anyone who disagree with raising taxes!
Yes, we know the drill!
Ignoring (as one should) your endless conflations of politics and economics with the science, your entire comment consists of only one thing:

A bare assertion that the science is wrong.

Do you understand the difference between spouting an unsupported opinion and constructing an argument? Any clue at all?

Can you - right now - post anything that would be persuasive to a rational, informed reader? By that, I don't mean a colorful string of insults and characterizations. To rational people, it goes without saying that it must contain verifiable facts, a
logical argument based upon them, some indication of sources so that the science can be verified, and an explanation of how the evidence to the contrary is refuted.

May we expect instead the usual content-free bare assertions, accusations, insults, and other de facto concessions?
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PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Kyle wrote:
Well, nutters, nothing's changed here.
Yes folks as the above commander nuttier posted it. Why it has to be the commander nuttier it claims itís an auto engineer that designs all the recalls. The above engineer successfully bankrupts the Auto Ind. and is proud of it.
Intermingling your usual meaningless BS with personal attacks/lies that have already been revealed = ONE OF YOUR MOST PROFOUND CONCESSIONS YET.
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Brian_G wrote:
There is no experiment that shows climate change mitigation is feasible or even possible. That's how you can know it's a hoax.
Besides being wrong, your argument is irrational even if it were right. The ability to mitigate CC has ZERO effect OK the validity of the science that shows it's happening and why.

Of course, Post Hole Digger thinks you made a brilliant point because (she?) hasn't a clue about basic logic even after being slapped up side the head with it dozens of times.
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martinezjosei wrote:
Hey Liberal goofballs!!!
The Earth magnetic field had been weakening. And it had been shown that it allows the sun to have greater influence on Earth's temperature!
The really interesting thing is this: ever since Gauss first measured the strength of the field, it has been dropping. Over the 170 years or so since the first measurements, the main field has decayed by some 8 or 9% and this has led to all sorts of speculation as to whether we are heading for some big geomagnetic event, like a reversal. It is true that this is quite a large drop- if the geodynamo suddenly stopped the field would only decay quite slowly- about 1% per century- but it is also likely that this sort of variation is not uncommon. The big question is how long was this going on for before people were first able to measure it?
One more proof that Global Warming is just junk science for a socialist agenda!
The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study
COPENHAGEN (AFP)-- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.
"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.
http://www.viewzone.com/magnetic.weather.html
ONCE AGAIN EVIDENCE THAT LIBERALS WILL IGNORE!
HSL refuted your nonsense already, but allow me to do so again on completely separate grounds:

If your denier pseudoscientist were correct that it's warming because a weakening magnetic field is admitting additional radiant energy from the sun, warming would be greatest near the equator, during the summer, and in daytime.

The FACTS are unequivocal. The warming is greatest near the poles, during the winter, and at night. In fact, there are monitoring stations in the high Arctic that have shown an 11degF warming in midwinter.(Winter also = night at those latitudes)

These observations are only expected if the greenhouse effect is the cause. The same is true regarding the cooling of the upper atmosphere, which has been measured with exquisite accuracy since solid state sensors have been in orbit.

These conclusions are trivially easy to understand. If you turn up the flame in your oven, the outside of the oven will get warmer. If you instead increase the temperature of the oven by adding insulation, the outside will be cooler. If you heat the whole house with one fireplace, stoking the fire raises the temperature the most in the room with the fireplace. If you insulate the house, the temperature will increase the most in the rooms furthest from the fireplace.

You've been refutedin multiple ways, including one that is intuitive and requires no math. A rational person would study your source and the sources that contradict it and then arrive at the only rational conclusion - You were being lied to.

My money is on you standing by this thoroughly discredited lie because deniers never react rationally to refutations and never admit error on even the most trivial points. In fact, that behavior is clinical evidence for the denier personality type.

Am I right? Hmmm?

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