Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 34463 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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PHD

Overton, TX

#24334 Mar 12, 2013
If you most lie to get your respect due to your lack of intelligence well than carry on.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#24336 Mar 12, 2013
"If you most lie...."

You make it EZ, to disregard your claptrap.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24337 Mar 12, 2013
Hey Liberal goofballs!!!

The Earth magnetic field had been weakening. And it had been shown that it allows the sun to have greater influence on Earth's temperature!

The really interesting thing is this: ever since Gauss first measured the strength of the field, it has been dropping. Over the 170 years or so since the first measurements, the main field has decayed by some 8 or 9% and this has led to all sorts of speculation as to whether we are heading for some big geomagnetic event, like a reversal. It is true that this is quite a large drop- if the geodynamo suddenly stopped the field would only decay quite slowly- about 1% per century- but it is also likely that this sort of variation is not uncommon. The big question is how long was this going on for before people were first able to measure it?

One more proof that Global Warming is just junk science for a socialist agenda!

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study
COPENHAGEN (AFP)-- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.
"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.

http://www.viewzone.com/magnetic.weather.html

ONCE AGAIN EVIDENCE THAT LIBERALS WILL IGNORE!
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#24338 Mar 12, 2013
"...that could challenge..."

Only "evidence" to a teabagger/moron.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#24339 Mar 13, 2013
There is no experiment that shows climate change mitigation is feasible or even possible. That's how you can know it's a hoax.
PHD

Overton, TX

#24340 Mar 13, 2013
The only challenge is your less-on response so continue to lie trying to support your agenda.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#24341 Mar 13, 2013
"If you most lie...."

You make it EZ, to disregard your claptrap.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#24342 Mar 13, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
Hey Liberal goofballs!!!
The Earth magnetic field had been weakening. And it had been shown that it allows the sun to have greater influence on Earth's temperature!
The really interesting thing is this: ever since Gauss first measured the strength of the field, it has been dropping. Over the 170 years or so since the first measurements, the main field has decayed by some 8 or 9% and this has led to all sorts of speculation as to whether we are heading for some big geomagnetic event, like a reversal. It is true that this is quite a large drop- if the geodynamo suddenly stopped the field would only decay quite slowly- about 1% per century- but it is also likely that this sort of variation is not uncommon. The big question is how long was this going on for before people were first able to measure it?
One more proof that Global Warming is just junk science for a socialist agenda!
The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study
COPENHAGEN (AFP)-- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.
"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.
http://www.viewzone.com/magnetic.weather.html
ONCE AGAIN EVIDENCE THAT LIBERALS WILL IGNORE!
More utter nonsense from you Jose. "Liberals" don't "ignore" this evidence; it's been refuted. If you actually care to learn something, & see exactly why Svensmark is incorrect, read some science here:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/cosmic-rays-a...

You can select a basic, intermediate or advanced level for the science. Svensmark is just wrong. He's now publishing a book because he can't pass peer review. Other scientists are aware that he's wrong.

Since: Nov 11

United States

#24343 Mar 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There is no experiment that shows climate change mitigation is feasible or even possible. That's how you can know it's a hoax.
Good point!

Since: Nov 11

United States

#24344 Mar 13, 2013
HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:
<quoted text>More utter nonsense from you Jose. "Liberals" don't "ignore" this evidence; it's been refuted. If you actually care to learn something, & see exactly why Svensmark is incorrect, read some science here:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/cosmic-rays-a...

You can select a basic, intermediate or advanced level for the science. Svensmark is just wrong. He's now publishing a book because he can't pass peer review. Other scientists are aware that he's wrong.
Anyone who does not agrees with Liberals is wrong. Yes, we already know that!

You do not need to remind us that anyone who disagree with Socialism is wrong. Also any one who likes Capitalism is wrong too, yes we know.

Yes, any one who voted for Mitt Romney is wrong, yes we know the drill.

Any one who disagrees with Global Warming is wrong! As also anyone who disagree with raising taxes!

Yes, we know the drill!
Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#24345 Mar 13, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone who does not agrees with Liberals is wrong. Yes, we already know that!
You do not need to remind us that anyone who disagree with Socialism is wrong. Also any one who likes Capitalism is wrong too, yes we know.
Yes, any one who voted for Mitt Romney is wrong, yes we know the drill.
Any one who disagrees with Global Warming is wrong! As also anyone who disagree with raising taxes!
Yes, we know the drill!
Ignoring (as one should) your endless conflations of politics and economics with the science, your entire comment consists of only one thing:

A bare assertion that the science is wrong.

Do you understand the difference between spouting an unsupported opinion and constructing an argument? Any clue at all?

Can you - right now - post anything that would be persuasive to a rational, informed reader? By that, I don't mean a colorful string of insults and characterizations. To rational people, it goes without saying that it must contain verifiable facts, a
logical argument based upon them, some indication of sources so that the science can be verified, and an explanation of how the evidence to the contrary is refuted.

May we expect instead the usual content-free bare assertions, accusations, insults, and other de facto concessions?
Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#24346 Mar 13, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Kyle wrote:
Well, nutters, nothing's changed here.
Yes folks as the above commander nuttier posted it. Why it has to be the commander nuttier it claims itís an auto engineer that designs all the recalls. The above engineer successfully bankrupts the Auto Ind. and is proud of it.
Intermingling your usual meaningless BS with personal attacks/lies that have already been revealed = ONE OF YOUR MOST PROFOUND CONCESSIONS YET.
Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#24347 Mar 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There is no experiment that shows climate change mitigation is feasible or even possible. That's how you can know it's a hoax.
Besides being wrong, your argument is irrational even if it were right. The ability to mitigate CC has ZERO effect OK the validity of the science that shows it's happening and why.

Of course, Post Hole Digger thinks you made a brilliant point because (she?) hasn't a clue about basic logic even after being slapped up side the head with it dozens of times.
Kyle

Kendallville, IN

#24348 Mar 13, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
Hey Liberal goofballs!!!
The Earth magnetic field had been weakening. And it had been shown that it allows the sun to have greater influence on Earth's temperature!
The really interesting thing is this: ever since Gauss first measured the strength of the field, it has been dropping. Over the 170 years or so since the first measurements, the main field has decayed by some 8 or 9% and this has led to all sorts of speculation as to whether we are heading for some big geomagnetic event, like a reversal. It is true that this is quite a large drop- if the geodynamo suddenly stopped the field would only decay quite slowly- about 1% per century- but it is also likely that this sort of variation is not uncommon. The big question is how long was this going on for before people were first able to measure it?
One more proof that Global Warming is just junk science for a socialist agenda!
The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study
COPENHAGEN (AFP)-- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.
"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.
http://www.viewzone.com/magnetic.weather.html
ONCE AGAIN EVIDENCE THAT LIBERALS WILL IGNORE!
HSL refuted your nonsense already, but allow me to do so again on completely separate grounds:

If your denier pseudoscientist were correct that it's warming because a weakening magnetic field is admitting additional radiant energy from the sun, warming would be greatest near the equator, during the summer, and in daytime.

The FACTS are unequivocal. The warming is greatest near the poles, during the winter, and at night. In fact, there are monitoring stations in the high Arctic that have shown an 11degF warming in midwinter.(Winter also = night at those latitudes)

These observations are only expected if the greenhouse effect is the cause. The same is true regarding the cooling of the upper atmosphere, which has been measured with exquisite accuracy since solid state sensors have been in orbit.

These conclusions are trivially easy to understand. If you turn up the flame in your oven, the outside of the oven will get warmer. If you instead increase the temperature of the oven by adding insulation, the outside will be cooler. If you heat the whole house with one fireplace, stoking the fire raises the temperature the most in the room with the fireplace. If you insulate the house, the temperature will increase the most in the rooms furthest from the fireplace.

You've been refutedin multiple ways, including one that is intuitive and requires no math. A rational person would study your source and the sources that contradict it and then arrive at the only rational conclusion - You were being lied to.

My money is on you standing by this thoroughly discredited lie because deniers never react rationally to refutations and never admit error on even the most trivial points. In fact, that behavior is clinical evidence for the denier personality type.

Am I right? Hmmm?

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#24349 Mar 13, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone who does not agrees with Liberals is wrong. Yes, we already know that!
You do not need to remind us that anyone who disagree with Socialism is wrong. Also any one who likes Capitalism is wrong too, yes we know.
Yes, any one who voted for Mitt Romney is wrong, yes we know the drill.
Any one who disagrees with Global Warming is wrong! As also anyone who disagree with raising taxes!
Yes, we know the drill!
Jose-

I am a capitalist, not a socialist. I do not agree with "liberals" (& certainly not with Obama) all the time, either.
I do NOT want to raise taxes on everyone.
A revenue-neutral carbon tax does NOT raise taxes overall.
Yes, Rmoney would have been a TERRIBLE choice for president, virtually guaranteeing an imminent depression.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with AGW/CC is indeed wrong because its basics have been proven beyond all reasonable doubt. Anyone who can't see that is indeed psychotically detached from reality, just like you.
Will Not fly on a 787

Minneapolis, MN

#24350 Mar 13, 2013
It's running 50 degrees colder this year than last.

GLOBAL WARMING????????
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#24351 Mar 13, 2013
Will Not fly on a 787 wrote:
It's running 50 degrees colder this year than last.
GLOBAL WARMING????????
Are you a runner?

hahahaha
litesong

Everett, WA

#24352 Mar 13, 2013
Will Not crash on a 787 wrote:
It's running 50 degrees colder this year than last.
GLOBAL WARMING????????
Bet MN isn't running overall temperatures 50 degrees colder. Besides, winter high Arctic temperatures were warmer & often much warmer than average from late October 2012 to nearly half way through February 2013, except for 1 week, & often pushing Arctic cold fronts to Canada & the U.S.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#24353 Mar 13, 2013
Actually ....NO !!!

Overall, winters have warmed about two to four degrees in the past 30 years or so. One good way to measure it is to look at these number of subzero lows that we're seeing at night. There are distinct trends that are emerging in the past 30 to 40 years toward fewer subzero low temperatures in Minnesota and the Twin Cities.

Quick example: this year we've had five days so far, last year we had three. That's a very low number. If you go back to the 1970s - the whole decade - we had 444 subzero days. During the 1980s we had 280, during the 1990s we had 256; down to 198 in the 2000s. That's a 57% drop in those subzero nights. If you look at that overall the trend lines show we could be down to around 10 on average per winter. We used to average about 30 back in the '70s and we could be maybe closer to zero by 2040. By 2040, in the Twin Cities we could be very close to few or any subzero nights if our current climate trends continue.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#24354 Mar 14, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>Ignoring (as one should) your endless conflations of politics and economics with the science, your entire comment consists of only one thing:

A bare assertion that the science is wrong.

Do you understand the difference between spouting an unsupported opinion and constructing an argument? Any clue at all?

Can you - right now - post anything that would be persuasive to a rational, informed reader? By that, I don't mean a colorful string of insults and characterizations. To rational people, it goes without saying that it must contain verifiable facts, a
logical argument based upon them, some indication of sources so that the science can be verified, and an explanation of how the evidence to the contrary is refuted.

May we expect instead the usual content-free bare assertions, accusations, insults, and other de facto concessions?
Why?

No amount of scientific facts will persuade a Liberal of his ideology!

When people become attached to a movement, a person or whatever on the basis of faith, you got problems trying to separate 'em, because faith is what? Faith is loyalty. It is support of the unknown or something that cannot be proved. It can't be proven, it can't be disproven, as far as the faithful are concerned. Obama has a bunch of faithful, and so does the manmade global warming hoax. I have a piece of information here -- you may have seen it already today -- that totally discounts it all in my mind just in terms of common sense. Let me give you the data. "In the last year, we have seen the largest one-year temperature change ever recorded for global temperatures. However, it's been a cooling trend, not warming. Record snows and cold are being reported from all over the northern hemisphere this winter." It seems like our unbiased media should have been covering this important story. If you search Google News for articles in the last month containing the phrase "global warming," you get 29,000 hits. If you do the same for "global cooling," you'll get 100 hits. One hundred cooling hits versus 29,000 warming hits. We could be sliding into a new ice age and the Drive-By Media would be crying hysterically about global warming. "Okay, Rush, prove it, prove it." Fine. I got it right here.

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