Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

[jason_orange]

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[Brian_G]

Wallop10 wrote:

It would be easy to prove me wrong about the science. Show me one world renown science agency who says global warming is NOT man made and a threat.
Start here.
**Organizations that say AGW is a FACT**
* National Academy of Sciences, United States [and NAS of every country]
* National Aeronautics & Space Administration (NASA)
* National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
* National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
* National Science Foundation (NSF)
* American Institute of Physics (AIP)
....

I'll bet everyone of those institutions receives public funding.

[someone]

litesong wrote:

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Let's not interfere with the 100+ million dollar bonus, stock & retirement packages. We have to maintain the hedge funds so upper crust paper shufflers & people shovers can pick up an extra $4 billion every year, taking away from the engineers, mathematicians, scientists, technologists, managers, blue-collars, secretaries & minimum wage workers who actually build corporate strength.

I don't see what your rant about corporatism has anything to do with using global warming to amass control over our lives.

Look up agenda 21.

Same people you proclaim to be against are the ones pushing for social control.

What do you think corporations are for? Making money? To an extent.

Its about control.

I just find it odd that you reach for an unrelated subject when confronted with facts.

Does it help you to rationalize the obvious conflict that my words brought to you?

Only people who like corporate facism are socialists who think they will be given a piece of the pie.

Newsflash.
socialism is dead.

You will never own the means of production.

Socialism is dead. Quit asking the government to take things from others...
Cause the government will never give it to you.

Misguided fools.

[someone]

litesong wrote:

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Let's not interfere with the 100+ million dollar bonus, stock & retirement packages. We have to maintain the hedge funds so upper crust paper shufflers & people shovers can pick up an extra $4 billion every year, taking away from the engineers, mathematicians, scientists, technologists, managers, blue-collars, secretaries & minimum wage workers who actually build corporate strength.

So what does your rant against corporatism have anything to do with global warming or Agenda 21?
Nothing.

If faced with unrefutable points....you just would rather change the subject.

Agenda 21

Look it up.

Both the Bushes and Clinton's are part of it.

Look it up.

Agenda 21

[truman]

true wrote:

BS propaganda for carbon taxes, earth been cooling for 10 years hmmmm funny how they keep trying to cook the books to get a company call chicago climate exchange ( which AL GORE GEORGY BUSH BARRY SETERO OR HUSSAN OBAMA OR WHAT EVER HE NAME IS THIS WEEK ) rolling and raking in the billions, oh and by the way to all you believers out there, this is to send all US industry over seas and help to clear out the middle class as well as make the US a third world country like the rest of the world, because obama said in a global order all countrys must be equal. spreading the wealth, do one of you morons think you will see a penny of it?

Obviously you are a proponent of Fox Koolade enemas on a regular basis.
Where would the rest of us 'sheeple' be without you Right Wing Sh*theads who have the 'REAL' story?

[truman]

someone wrote:

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So what does your rant against corporatism have anything to do with global warming or Agenda 21?
Nothing.
If faced with unrefutable points....you just would rather change the subject.
Agenda 21
Look it up.
Both the Bushes and Clinton's are part of it.
Look it up.
Agenda 21

'Agenda 21' Good Lord do any of you paranoid Rovian Toads ever listen to yourselves?

[PHD]

litesong wrote:

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'cras ass' is a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, who is too scared to use the 'N' word. We have the slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AND alleged & proud threatener toxic topix AGW denier brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' ganghood, where all the worst slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AND alleged & proud threatener toxic topix AGW deniers hang out. Its crowded, but you'll fit right in like a jig saw puzzle piece.

And you think topix doesn’t know what you publish? Attacks on me won't delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.

[PHD]

Wallop10 wrote:

It would be easy to prove me wrong about the science. Show me one world renown science agency who says global warming is NOT man made and a threat.

There you go all scientific science fiction again. See the wallop10 gets walloped again and again. You do an excellent job proving your---self wrong. They all show you by stating in my opinion, prediction could be, should be and forecast. You’re just not getting it.

[someone]

truman wrote:

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'Agenda 21' Good Lord do any of you paranoid Rovian Toads ever listen to yourselves?

Don't ad hominem attacks get old? You wont win many arguments.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21#sect...

Least not with me.

Try again.

[someone]

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/index.ph...

Read the first paragraph. Here let met paste it for you.

Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment.

In every area in which human impacts on the environment.

Feel free to download the whole thing and read it, its available as a pdf.

Newsflash
Socialism is new word for corporate facism.
true socialism is dead.

People like you will never own let alone control your means of production.

[someone]

Do you hold allegiance to the United States and its constitution?

Or to a foreign government?

I suggest people like you who would prefer to be loyal to a foreign government just leave the rest of alone. Better yet move to a so called socialist nation...
If there is any true socialist countries.

TRUE SOCIALISM IS DEAD.
TRUE CAPITALISM IS DEAD.

WE HAVE STATE CORPORATISM NOW.
CORPORATE FACISM.

[HomoSapiensLapto picus]

someone wrote:

http://sustainabledevelopment. un.org/index.php?page=view &nr=23&type=400&me nu=35
Read the first paragraph. Here let met paste it for you.
Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment.
In every area in which human impacts on the environment.
Feel free to download the whole thing and read it, its available as a pdf.
Newsflash
Socialism is new word for corporate facism.
true socialism is dead.
People like you will never own let alone control your means of production.

Someone clueless,
You conspiracists would be quite amusing if you weren't so wacky & dangerous.

So Agenda 21 is an indication of world fascist socialist government, imposed by the UN, eh? Why don't we check Wiki?

"Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United Nations with regard to sustainable development..."

It says "NON-BINDING, VOLUNTARILY IMPLEMENTED" in the FIRST SENTENCE!!! What is WRONG with you people? How can sensible people think of you as anything but psychotically detached from reality?

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

Wiki links to this, where it's ~half way down:
http://www.icleiusa.org/about-iclei/faqs/faq-...

Among other things, it says this:
"Agenda 21 is not a treaty or legally binding document and does not infringe upon the sovereignty of any nation, state, or local government."

OK? Your paranoid fantasies have NO BASIS IN REALITY.

[Amused Slew]

When you straighten the wacko out, he starts playing games, like you're a gay couple... Kid has PROBLEMS !!!

[Kyle]

PHD wrote:

<quoted text>There you go all scientific science fiction again. See the wallop10 gets walloped again and again. You do an excellent job proving your---self wrong. They all show you by stating in my opinion, prediction could be, should be and forecast. You’re just not getting it.

WTF? Was there an argument in there somewhere? Methinks it merely word salad to avoid dealing with the facts as stated by wallop10 - Every relevant scientific organization is on one side of the argument - the one WITH THE SCIENCE. Meanwhile, ideologues, fossil-fuel industry paid flacks, retired weathermen pretending to be climate scientists, etc. are on the other.

[Kyle]

someone wrote:

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Don't ad hominem attacks get old? You wont win many arguments.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21#sect...
Least not with me.
Try again.

Personally, I never tire of seeing conspiracy theorist wingnuts ridiculed.

[Wallop10]

someone wrote:

Agenda 21.
"sustainable development"
End of private property.
Limit education. Increase indoctrination.
More educated people achieve higher incomes... thus consuming more.
We need to limit the number of educated people to reduce consumption.
Agenda 21.
Global warming will be the tool to bring about a new world order.
With global central control.
where every single aspect of our lives will be governed and dictated by the illuminated, the enlightened.

Conservative poster: The topic was the UN's Agenda 21 (http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21 ). It's real, and it's dangerous. It's the first proposal for global governance and global taxation.
TS: Since your link was just an announcement of a meeting (is that all you needed ? a blank slate?), I went to the table of contents.

Tried to find the most "dangerous" section. What could be more dangerous than their chapter on financial resources??? So I click here to get more of those terrible details...

<<Financial Resources & Mechanisms

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BASIS FOR ACTION

33.3. Economic growth, social development and poverty eradication are the first and overriding priorities in developing countries and are themselves essential to meeting national and global sustainability objectives. In the light of the global benefits to be realized by the implementation of Agenda 21 as a whole, the provision to developing countries of effective means, inter alia, financial resources and technology, without which it will be difficult for them to fully implement their commitments, will serve the common interests of developed and developing countries and of humankind in general, including future generations.

33.4. The cost of inaction could outweigh the financial costs of implementing Agenda 21. Inaction will narrow the choices of future generations.

33.5. For dealing with environmental issues, special efforts will be required. Global and local environmental issues are interrelated. The United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change and the Convention on Biological Diversity address two of the most important global issues.

33.6. Economic conditions, both domestic and international, that encourage free trade and access to markets will help make economic growth and environmental protection mutually supportive for all countries, particularly for developing countries and countries undergoing the process of transition to a market economy (see chapter 2 for a fuller discussion of these issues).>>

http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda...

Free markets? Why this is unacceptable?

Horrors, they appear to be concerned about the degradation of the environment around the world.

Surely they know they should hate future generations, and take all we can with us now?
This cannot be tolerated, no?

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I tried to narrow it down using google if it was Alex Jones or Glenn Beck that was hyping the Agenda 21 lies.

Hey, found it for BOTH of them.

www.youtube.com/watch...

www.youtube.com/watch...

amazing stupidity if anyone believes this crap! Ashamed yet?

[Wallop10]

One can always tell where SUXObama has been around... with his multiple logins...

Looks like he is not going on 9 Times in one block now.

[Amused Slew]

someone wrote:

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Don't ad hominem attacks get old? You wont win many arguments.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21#sect...
Least not with me.
Try again.

He "won't" or he won't, because where I come from, the dummy loses.... As for proving you wrong, some folks don't care what the crazy folks "think".

[litesong]

someone else wrote:

Do you hold allegiance to the United States and its constitution?

'OH, oh, say can you SEEEEEEEE, by the dawn's early light!' & 'americaaaaaaaaa americaaaaaaa'

[Amused Slew]

Amused Slew wrote:

<quoted text>He "won't" or he won't, because where I come from, the dummy loses.... As for proving you wrong, some folks don't care what the crazy folks "think".

My gay hubby, Slewsie, is the Spell Check Queen of Topix. All you losers out there better watch out.