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Republican proposes denying the vote to all active duty military

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Awful Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Feb 25, 2013
In attempt to stop early voting, MN Republican proposes denying the vote to all active duty military

It is no secret that Republicans have been trying desperately to prevent Democratic voters from being able to cast a ballot through Voter ID laws and other vote suppression measures. The Republicans efforts to restrict the vote in Minnesota have not been successful so far and they have grown desperate, so desperate in fact that they are willing to literally throw away the entire military vote in order to prevent a law that would make it easier for the people of this state to cast a ballot.

Republicans tried to push a Voter ID law on Minnesota last November through a Constitutional Amendment, unfortunately for Republicans most voters in this state are not as stupid as they wish we were and we rejected their amendment at the ballot box.

Now Minnesota Democrats have taken up a new voting measure, but unlike the Republicans proposal the Democrats want to expand people's opportunities to vote rather than limit them. A bill has been introduced to our state legislature that would bring early voting to the state of Minnesota.

As you can probably guess Republicans don't want to make it any easier for people to vote so they are determined to stop the early voting bill from going through. Their argument is that the state Constitution specifies the date of the election so therefore they claim it is unconstitutional to cast votes before election day. There is one problem with their argument however, people already have been casting votes before election day in Minnesota for years. While Minnesota does not have early voting it does provide absentee ballots to people who are going to be out of town or are for any other reason unable to make it the polls on election day. If it is unconstitutional to vote before election day through early voting then it would also mean that absentee ballots are unconstitutional as well, but no one would be stupid enough to try to ban absentee voting in the state would they?

Well it turns out that State Senator Warren Limmer is that stupid...

State Sen. Warren Limmer, R-Maple Grove, another sponsor of voter ID, raised doubts about the legality of absentee voting. Minnesotans can vote absentee before an election if they are disabled or sick or if they expect to be traveling during an election.

Sen. Ann Rest, DFL-New Hope, warned Limmer and other legislators against edging toward a constitutional showdown over absentee voting.

“Senator Limmer, you are disenfranchising the vote of every singe member of the military,” Rest said.“I don’t think you want to go there.”

Limmer shot back:“I am not going to sit here and be questioned about my motive and be warned not to go somewhere.”


http://www.startribune.com/politics/stateloca...

Limmer is standing his ground, he may be disenfranchising all active duty military personnel along with many thousands of other ordinary Minnesotans, but he is telling us that he is going to go there and we better not warn him to stop.

Well Senator Limmer does not have to worry about me warning him not to go there, instead I will politely tell him to "please proceed".

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#2 Feb 25, 2013
"While Minnesota does not have early voting it does provide absentee ballots to people who are going to be out of town or are for any other reason unable to make it the polls on election day. "

Yet another redundant law. If we already have a form of early voting, what it the point of enacting "early voting"? There is no valid need for this. The article clearly avoided this question.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#3 Feb 25, 2013
PS: this in no way would deter the active duty military from voting so as usual, the theme of this thread is misleading and incendiary by design.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#4 Feb 25, 2013
The actual title of the article:

Minnesota's early-voting proposal raises constitutional questions.

No mention of "disenfranchising" the military.
Bushwhacker

Kent, WA

#5 Feb 25, 2013
It says absent while voting... Funny, you didn't blink at your partisan lies, but pretend your party isn't intentionally omitting voters ??? Hanging chad sound familiar ??? Poor TrashyLiar, the game is up....
Awful Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Feb 25, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
"While Minnesota does not have early voting it does provide absentee ballots to people who are going to be out of town or are for any other reason unable to make it the polls on election day. "
Yet another redundant law. If we already have a form of early voting, what it the point of enacting "early voting"? There is no valid need for this. The article clearly avoided this question.
There most certainly is a need for early voting in Minnesota - it makes it much easier for the poor, the handicapped, the elderly and other disenfranchised groups to vote.

The reason you are opposed to this is that those groups traditionally voted Democratic.

Smart Liberal

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#7 Feb 25, 2013
Awful Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
There most certainly is a need for early voting in Minnesota - it makes it much easier for the poor, the handicapped, the elderly and other disenfranchised groups to vote.
The reason you are opposed to this is that those groups traditionally voted Democratic.
Hey Dumbo, there is no need. There is a desire for a convenience. That is a big difference.

Can't you be honest about anything?

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#8 Feb 25, 2013
Awful Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
There most certainly is a need for early voting in Minnesota - it makes it much easier for the poor, the handicapped, the elderly and other disenfranchised groups to vote.
The reason you are opposed to this is that those groups traditionally voted Democratic.
I don't care how they vote. If the are fool enough to vote for democrats or republicans they get what they deserve. But to say that there is an attempt to disenfranchise active duty military and then fall back on the poor, handicapped and elderly is disingenuous at best and blatantly deceptive. People can go to the polls on voting day or submit an absentee ballot. Nothing more is needed. No one who really wants to vote is "disenfranchised". Unless you are referring to people who are intimidated by large black panther members who stand outside the polling place with clubs.
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 25, 2013
"The new proposal would allow Minnesota voters to go to a government office and vote up to 15 days before an election, bringing Minnesota in line with more than 30 other states that offer similar early-voting options."

How the is an active duty member of the military supposed to go to a government office up to 15 days before the election to cast their vote? Presumably, the reason they need to vote other than at the polls on election day is because they are absent from their precinct on election day. We already have a system to cover this situation. While Limmer sees problems with the current system, he has not introduced legislation to eliminate absentee ballots. This thread is bullshit.
Bushwhacked

Kent, WA

#10 Feb 25, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
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Hey Dumbo, there is no need. There is a desire for a convenience. That is a big difference.
Can't you be honest about anything?
There's a need for American Servicemen... You wouldn't understand, under ANY moniker, moron. Hertz, to see such hatred of American soldiers...

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