No Negotiations Monday for Locked-Out Minnesota Orchestra

Nov 5, 2012 Full story: KSTP 15

The board of directors from the Minnesota Orchestra Association rejected an offer to meet Monday with the orchestra's management team.

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“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#1 Nov 5, 2012
Another example of the brilliance of the union mind.

The offer on the table is for an average salary of $89,000 for playing an instrument in 89 performances.$1,000 for a 2 hour concert plus benefits is a pretty generous offer.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#2 Nov 6, 2012
Seem like you forgot the innate talent, years of practice, and practices as a group for performances...

Never mind, you didn't forget, you're simply stupid and jealous !! LMAOROTFU~!

Not a man, fired from Mcd's, and hates American workers, because you FAILED !!! LMAOROTFU~!
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#3 Nov 6, 2012
Smart Liberal wrote:
Another example of the brilliance of the union mind.
The offer on the table is for an average salary of $89,000 for playing an instrument in 89 performances.$1,000 for a 2 hour concert plus benefits is a pretty generous offer.
Well this isn't a normal union lock out, they are actually fighting over a $46,000/per year salary reduction. I doubt anyone would be happy with that.
Amused Stew

Seattle, WA

#4 Nov 6, 2012
According to the group of musicians, the Minnesota Orchestra’s average base salary is eighth in the country.

Chicago’s Orchestra is at the top of the list, at $144,040, followed by the Los Angeles Philharmonic and San Francisco – both over $140,000.

The New York Philharmonic starts at $135,980, while the Cleveland Orchestra starts at $120,120.

“Our musicians are so good, when the news came out this morning [that they were locked out], one of them got a call from the Boston Symphony,” said Smith.

The debate caused a symphony of comments on Facebook and Twitter. Mike Miller wrote:“How many world class cellists are they? You pay for quality.”
Romney needs turn as pres

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Nov 6, 2012
They don't need to make MORE than the Governor. NO WAY!!

Many have other jobs..

Double dipping.

Vote FOR Romney!!
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#7 Nov 6, 2012
I get my "turn" first, I was in line and RawMoney took "cuts"...

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#8 Nov 6, 2012
Bridgework wrote:
<quoted text>
Well this isn't a normal union lock out, they are actually fighting over a $46,000/per year salary reduction. I doubt anyone would be happy with that.
I thought it was a $39K reduction - but just the same...

The MN Orchestra has been clear. This is the offer and this is all they can afford given the current economy.

It is upon the union members to decide if $89K per year for 89 performances ($500 per hour against performance time) is sufficient. At this time the members are saying it is not, and they are saying they would rather go without a paycheck than get one that is almost twice what the national average income is.

More power to the musicians. Merry Christmas to them, just like I say Merry Christmas to the former American Crystal Sugar employees.
Romney needs turn as pres

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Nov 6, 2012
There are many musicians who would LOVE to work for $89K a year. I mean GOOD people. Let's face it one can live very comfortably on $89K/year..

If you can't you need to learn.
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#10 Nov 6, 2012
Smart Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it was a $39K reduction - but just the same...
The MN Orchestra has been clear. This is the offer and this is all they can afford given the current economy.
It is upon the union members to decide if $89K per year for 89 performances ($500 per hour against performance time) is sufficient. At this time the members are saying it is not, and they are saying they would rather go without a paycheck than get one that is almost twice what the national average income is.
More power to the musicians. Merry Christmas to them, just like I say Merry Christmas to the former American Crystal Sugar employees.
If they feel that is their worth, then more power to them. If my employer tried to drop my pay by 1/3rd I would walk out on the spot. Also the national average income is irrelevant as we do not know what their expenses are.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#11 Nov 6, 2012
How refreshing to see the cheap, prick, union haters are all here lowing the quality of life to their level.... LMAOROTFU~! Poor kids, you're cheap losers...
Romney needs turn as pres

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Nov 6, 2012
Bridgework wrote:
<quoted text>
If they feel that is their worth, then more power to them. If my employer tried to drop my pay by 1/3rd I would walk out on the spot. Also the national average income is irrelevant as we do not know what their expenses are.
What YOU think you should earn has NO BEARING on what an employer can afford to pay YOU!

If you think you are worth more then get out and get a different job. BUT don't count your chickens before they hatch.

IF you think being unemployed is better than $89K a year, you are wrong!!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#14 Nov 6, 2012
Romney needs turn as pres wrote:
<quoted text>
What YOU think you should earn has NO BEARING on what an employer can afford to pay YOU!
If you think you are worth more then get out and get a different job. BUT don't count your chickens before they hatch.
IF you think being unemployed is better than $89K a year, you are wrong!!
The terminally slewpid people are almost always wrong.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#15 Nov 6, 2012
I didn't know you were terminal, sorry to hear it...... LMAOROTFU~! Poor old boi...
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#16 Nov 6, 2012
Romney needs turn as pres wrote:
<quoted text>
What YOU think you should earn has NO BEARING on what an employer can afford to pay YOU!
If you think you are worth more then get out and get a different job. BUT don't count your chickens before they hatch.
IF you think being unemployed is better than $89K a year, you are wrong!!
Which is why the union asked to see their finances, and you forgot an option (get another job).
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#17 Nov 6, 2012
Bridgework wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is why the union asked to see their finances, and you forgot an option (get another job).
Or unionize and demand better pay as a group with strength !!! Poor children, you're weak morons who make nothing and too stupid to see it.....

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