Icy streets in St. Paul: It's deja vu all over again

Dec 6, 2013 Full story: TwinCities 11

Robert Binger walks away from his Nissan Pathfinder after it was pulled away from a telephone pole it slipped into Friday on Rice Street.

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PB in Saint Paul

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Dec 6, 2013
Same old routine. Heard a row of 5 plows go by at 2 a.m. Thursday. Went out Thursday morning, all they'd done was pack it down & smooth off any rough edges. It'd take a jackhammer to get it off now.
With all today's technology, I'm sure someone has figured out how to keep roads relatively clear & safe, whether it's a pre-treatment or whatever. Not St. Paul (or Minneapolis), same old thing everytime we get rain or a wet snow followed by days of frigid temps.
or maybe

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Dec 7, 2013
Maplewood is no better. Co Road C is almost undrivable. I was Home Depot yesterday and they have an inch of ice on their parking lot. Someone is going to fall on their azz and sue.

It's going to be a long winter.
PB in Saint Paul

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Dec 9, 2013
PB in Saint Paul wrote:
Same old routine. Heard a row of 5 plows go by at 2 a.m. Thursday. Went out Thursday morning, all they'd done was pack it down & smooth off any rough edges. It'd take a jackhammer to get it off now.
With all today's technology, I'm sure someone has figured out how to keep roads relatively clear & safe, whether it's a pre-treatment or whatever. Not St. Paul (or Minneapolis), same old thing everytime we get rain or a wet snow followed by days of frigid temps.
And don't get me wrong, I'm sure not blaming the plow drivers. Under more normal winter conditions, they do a fine job on the small street I live on. My guess is they're as frustrated as drivers are. They just don't have the right stuff to work with this mess.
If they can put a rover on Mars, why can't they figure out a simple way to get ice off the roads?
Joe Blow

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Dec 9, 2013
Public Works seems to be better at everything but snowplowing and fixing streets. I see them all the time shopping at retail stores during the middle of the day. If they are actually driving their big blue vehicles, seems like they have never ever driven anything larger than a Volkswagen beetle.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Dec 9, 2013
Hey wrote:
Actually, St. Paul must ban onstreet parking until after roads are plowed curb to curb if they ever think they can do an effective job of clearing streets.
Suburbs ban overnight parking and are able to plow the streets well.
That should be for ALL metro streets. No matter what city they are in.
Hey

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Dec 10, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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That should be for ALL metro streets. No matter what city they are in.
The tried and true excuse for not banning onstreet parking is that there isn't room for off street parking, BS. Living in a suburb with the same density housing I find there IS room for off street parking. The real problem is the lazy bums who don't want to remove the snow from the off street parking areas. It's much easier to let the street plows clear their parking areas.

It's all about lazy bums.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Dec 10, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
The tried and true excuse for not banning onstreet parking is that there isn't room for off street parking, BS. Living in a suburb with the same density housing I find there IS room for off street parking. The real problem is the lazy bums who don't want to remove the snow from the off street parking areas. It's much easier to let the street plows clear their parking areas.
It's all about lazy bums.
The streets in my area have posted signs stating that no car can be parked on that street from Nov 1st to April 1st.
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Last week while husband & I went grocery shopping. Along one of the minor streets we drove on, there were several cars bearing parking tickets.
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The complex I live in, has a rule that states within 24 hours of a snowfall all cars must be moved so the streets and parking areas can be plowed.
PB in Saint Paul

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Dec 10, 2013
Hey wrote:
Actually, St. Paul must ban onstreet parking until after roads are plowed curb to curb if they ever think they can do an effective job of clearing streets.
Suburbs ban overnight parking and are able to plow the streets well.
Yeah, that works so well in Mpls....;-)
DePactrick Mickfearson

Colorado Springs, CO

#14 Dec 10, 2013
Sangelia wrote:
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The streets in my area have posted signs stating that no car can be parked on that street from Nov 1st to April 1st.
.
Last week while husband & I went grocery shopping. Along one of the minor streets we drove on, there were several cars bearing parking tickets.
.
The complex I live in, has a rule that states within 24 hours of a snowfall all cars must be moved so the streets and parking areas can be plowed.
I like it when they dump millions of tons of salt and chemicals on the roads. It's good for the rivers and lakes, it helps the fish mutate into something better.
DePactrick Mickfearson

Colorado Springs, CO

#16 Dec 10, 2013
Hey wrote:
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Actually the first spring gully washer carries all the chemicals into the ocean where it's at home with all the other salt.
If you are concerned about mutated fish the fact of the matter is the fish in the Mississippi River in the area of the Pigs Eye sewerage treatment plant have both sex organs. AND the Metropolitian Council refuses to do anything about it.
I bet the Metropolitian Council people are all gay. Minneapolis is a gay city with a side order of Somali. Both sex organs scares gay people. That's why they drink bottled water.
Joe Blow

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Dec 11, 2013
PB in Saint Paul wrote:
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And don't get me wrong, I'm sure not blaming the plow drivers. Under more normal winter conditions, they do a fine job on the small street I live on. My guess is they're as frustrated as drivers are. They just don't have the right stuff to work with this mess.
If they can put a rover on Mars, why can't they figure out a simple way to get ice off the roads?
Many years ago, the city had two graders that they used on the streets. In their infinite wisdom, they got rid of them. Those graders did a fantastic job scraping the streets. So, if they want to add equipment, get some graders and start using them again to scrape the streets. But I don't believe the politicians ar that intelligent.

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