Eagan Development overreach costs Eag...
Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#49 Jan 6, 2013
Whoever I am, I'm not an obsessed nut case like you.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#50 Jan 7, 2013
Consistent wrote:
Whoever I am, I'm not an obsessed nut case like you.
Whoever you are, you are certainly and obsessed nut case, except you reply on every thread to everything, displaying your nut-casiness on a wide variety of subjects, everything from gun control to dairy products to dead politicians.

Keep up the good work, when you set the world record for sheer number of stupid posts, make it by a lot.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#51 Jan 7, 2013
ou are obsessed with something that Eagan is strongly in favor of. And you don't even live in Eagan.

A blighted area - a nearly vacant decaying mall - will be rebuilt as a beautiful addition to the city, will add thousands of long term jobs and several hundred construction jobs, and will add to the city tax base.

Plus this will spur development on the remaining 15 or so acres and areas around the outlet mall.

This is a win-win proposition for Eagan - only a fool could fail to see this.

Will he get the "Guinness" World Record, too ???
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#52 Jan 7, 2013
You are obsessed with something that Eagan is strongly in favor of. And you don't even live in Eagan.
A blighted area - a nearly vacant decaying mall - will be rebuilt as a beautiful addition to the city, will add thousands of long term jobs and several hundred construction jobs, and will add to the city tax base.
Plus this will spur development on the remaining 15 or so acres and areas around the outlet mall.
This is a win-win proposition for Eagan - only a fool could fail to see this.
Will he get the "Guinness" World Record, too ???
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#53 Jan 7, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
ou are obsessed with something that Eagan is strongly in favor of. And you don't even live in Eagan.
A blighted area - a nearly vacant decaying mall - will be rebuilt as a beautiful addition to the city, will add thousands of long term jobs and several hundred construction jobs, and will add to the city tax base.
Plus this will spur development on the remaining 15 or so acres and areas around the outlet mall.
This is a win-win proposition for Eagan - only a fool could fail to see this.
Will he get the "Guinness" World Record, too ???
Funny how internet addresses work, isn't it st paul slewsie? Minneapolis slewie? Minneapolis consistent Slewsie?

Eagan is mostly built out, it can't spur development, and there is only approximately 10 acres left in the Eagan TIF district that was previously Cedarvale. It won't add to the city tax base for years, because all that additional tax revenue is going to have to pay down the bonds issued for years and years.

Another post added to your total, no one will ever top your number of stupid postings, it would take 100 monkeys typing at computers at least 10 years to churn out as much stupidity as you can in a single month.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#55 Jan 7, 2013
Pretty funny how your "mind" "works"...Especially , the part that pretends to process "facts"....
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#56 Jan 7, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Pretty funny how your "mind" "works"...Especially , the part that pretends to process "facts"....
Pretty funny how your cut and pastes end up on multiple threads, many times under multiple monikers mr low integrity poster.

Eagan, come for the eminent domain, stay for the outlet mall.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#57 Jan 7, 2013
My posts TAUGHT you to spell Guinness, loser.

Pretty funny how your "mind" "works"...Especially , the part that pretends to process "facts"....

You are obsessed with something that Eagan is strongly in favor of. And you don't even live in Eagan.
A blighted area - a nearly vacant decaying mall - will be rebuilt as a beautiful addition to the city, will add thousands of long term jobs and several hundred construction jobs, and will add to the city tax base.
Plus this will spur development on the remaining 15 or so acres and areas around the outlet mall.
This is a win-win proposition for Eagan - only a fool could fail to see this.

Will he get the "Guinness" World Record, too ???

NAME CALLING ???

Ps- Pretty lame, NUTCASE~!!!
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#58 Jan 7, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
My posts TAUGHT you to spell Guinness, loser.
Pretty funny how your "mind" "works"...Especially , the part that pretends to process "facts"....
You are obsessed with something that Eagan is strongly in favor of. And you don't even live in Eagan.
A blighted area - a nearly vacant decaying mall - will be rebuilt as a beautiful addition to the city, will add thousands of long term jobs and several hundred construction jobs, and will add to the city tax base.
Plus this will spur development on the remaining 15 or so acres and areas around the outlet mall.
This is a win-win proposition for Eagan - only a fool could fail to see this.
Will he get the "Guinness" World Record, too ???
NAME CALLING ???
Ps- Pretty lame, NUTCASE~!!!
Wow, lookee lookee, I can cut and paste on multiple threads too. The difference is, mine have content. That is why I will never be able to compete with you for the most worthless posts on the internet award.

$40 million to acquire the property,$19 million more to build, operate, and run a parking ramp on 6 acres that Eagan will keep off the tax rolls for Paragon.

29 acres sold for $14.73 million, that includes $4.2 million to go towards the parking ramp that Paragon didn't want to own, operate, and be taxed on.

That leaves 10 acres of land, not 15.

The estimated property tax base increase?$84 million. The additional taxes collected? Somewhere between $1 and $1.5 million a year.

At that rate, the payback is well into the 30 year range, and that doesn't even include the interest that will be paid. I think Cedarvale was around 30 years old when Eagan decided it was dilapidated and needed to be torn down and re-developed.

Eagan may never see a dime of the increased tax revenue to use, and may have to use other general fund money to prop up the area, like Burnsville had to do with "Heart of the City".

Eagan, come for the eminent domain, stay to pay your "fair share" of the taxes to prop up the outlet mall.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#59 Jan 7, 2013
You just wrote it's bad to invest in property ??? LMAOROTFU~! Son, you're CLUELESS !!!
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#60 Jan 7, 2013
In two years, holiday shoppers should be crowding the south metro's first major outlet mall for its nearly 100 brand-name stores offering deals on shoes, purses and other cut-rate goods.
The Eagan City Council this week green-lighted preliminary plans by Baltimore-based Paragon Outlet Partners for a 441,000-square-foot, open-air outlet center on 29 acres near the intersection of Cedar Avenue and Minnesota 13.
Paragon Outlets at Cedar Grove would be the closest major outlet mall to the Twin Cities and the only one within the seven-county metro area. Albertville Premium Outlets and North Branch Outlets are in the fringes of the metro area.
"It's something new, something we don't have and something that will be a regional attractor," City Council member Paul Bakken said.
The proposal calls for the stores to be situated in a "racetrack" design -- facing each other around the open-air pedestrian concourse.
The design is a new approach to outlet malls and meant to boost foot traffic, said Kelvin Antill, Paragon's development partner.
The idea is to give customers a better understanding where the shops are and the tenants a balanced circulation of shoppers, Antill said.
"The goal is to have your shoppers walk the entire route of that racetrack and then get back to where they started, so that way all the tenants get visibility," he said.
It differs from outlet malls that have parking at storefronts. Instead, parking is on the outside of the oval,
and shoppers enter the concourse area through several "gateway" areas.
Paragon has told city officials that its similar projects across the country typically have had an investment of more than $100 million, created 400 construction jobs and brought in 1,500 to 2,000 retail jobs.
In the aftermath of the Great Recession, Paragon appears to be banking on attracting price-sensitive shoppers looking for what outlet malls traditionally offer -- deals on unforeseen overstocks, end-of-season leftovers and damaged product.
Many manufacturers also are trending toward selling specific merchandise found only at an outlet store, Antill notes.
This year, Paragon opened outlet malls in Grand Prairie, Texas, and Livermore, Calif., to rave reviews, Antill said.
"Both projects opened 100 percent leased, which is very rare," he said.
Bridgework

Olathe, KS

#61 Jan 7, 2013
Why does Slew seem to have so much interest in an Eagan outlet mall?
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#62 Jan 7, 2013
Freedom of speech will work, unless you don't actually support the Constitution.

In your "mini-mind" the jobs, shopping, and increased quality of life have no value....SUCKS to be you. Nobody else matters, to your moron "mind"...
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#63 Jan 7, 2013
Bridgework wrote:
Why does Slew seem to have so much interest in an Eagan outlet mall?
Slew is arguing to argue, and because he has to have the last post on every thread he posts on. The "jobs" created will be non-unionized part time retail jobs, jobs he argues against in almost every case. Liberals like eminent domain, it takes land and property from the greedy small business owners and gives it back where it belongs, in the hands of the government to make deals with. Private to private land use eminent domain, private to public eminent domain it doesn't matter to the libs. They see those potential tax dollars and reason and logic go out the window.

"We shouldn't be giving a tax refund, we still have too many unmet needs."

Roger Moe
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#64 Jan 7, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
You just wrote it's bad to invest in property ??? LMAOROTFU~! Son, you're CLUELESS !!!
It was bad for the small business owners that Eagan took their land away to invest. Dont' concern yourself with facts and figures, in your book 10 equals 15, right?
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#65 Jan 7, 2013
Where did I write 10-15 and how do you already count a proposed park, not yet build ?? Yep, you need to lie and pretend America isn't about the greater good... The old owners got paid, it's pitiful to pretend otherwise...
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#66 Jan 7, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Where did I write 10-15 and how do you already count a proposed park, not yet build ?? Yep, you need to lie and pretend America isn't about the greater good... The old owners got paid, it's pitiful to pretend otherwise...
Eagan has to build a parking garage on 6 acres at a cost of $19 million. The park, if approved, would take up more land. You lie all the time too, by omission and just posting the snippet of the lines you want to reply to, out of context. mr low integrity poster strikes again.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#67 Jan 7, 2013
The park, if approved ?? Yep, makes the numbers change, except in the thick head of a dimwit...
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#68 Jan 7, 2013
Yep, you need to lie and pretend America isn't about the greater good... The old owners got paid, it's pitiful to pretend otherwise...
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#69 Jan 7, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
The park, if approved ?? Yep, makes the numbers change, except in the thick head of a dimwit...
It is 29 acres to Paragon partners outlet malls, 6 acres for city of Eagan to build a parking ramp on. 29 + 6 = 35. 45 acres - 35 acres equals 10 acres mr low integrity poster. Keep on trying to twist it, your low integrity comes through loud and clear.

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