LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#391 May 13, 2014
Serco, a government-contracted ObamaCare processing contractor, has 1,800 employees being paid to do NOTHING:

“They’re told to sit at their computers and hit the refresh button every 10 minutes – no more than every 10 minutes. They’re monitored to hopefully look for an application. There are goals are set to process two applications per month and some people are not even able to do that.”

http://www.kmov.com/video/featured-videos/New...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#392 May 13, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
Serco, a government-contracted ObamaCare processing contractor, has 1,800 employees being paid to do NOTHING:
“They’re told to sit at their computers and hit the refresh button every 10 minutes – no more than every 10 minutes. They’re monitored to hopefully look for an application. There are goals are set to process two applications per month and some people are not even able to do that.”
http://www.kmov.com/video/featured-videos/New...
How could this be? It's not even a FOX affiliate? But seriously, this is not really a big surprise. As someone once said, "we won't know what's in it until we pass it in to law". Now who could have that been? Oh yeah, someone who is not required by law to purchase Obamacare. Ever. Or any other kind of insurance either.
mid term elections

Minneapolis, MN

#393 May 13, 2014
start the process after Republicans control house and senate, repeal the un affordable health care tax

ASAP !!

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a liberal mess wrote:
Less than one in five Americans say their families will be better off under the new health care law, according to a new poll.
But a CNN/ORC International survey released Tuesday morning also indicates a majority say the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare, will help some people, with 37% saying the law, which is gradually starting to kick in, won't help anyone.
According to the poll, four in 10 say the new law will make their families worse off, while 41% believe it will have no effect.
Seventeen percent think the measure will be a good thing for themselves or their families.
The poll's release comes on the same day as a key element of the health care law takes effect, as Americans without insurance can begin enrolling in state insurance exchanges.
And it comes hours after the shutdown of the federal government courtesy of a bitter partisan battle over the new health care law.
According to the poll, 36% say they won't benefit from the new law but other families will. If you add to that the 17% who believe Obamacare will help them personally, the survey indicates that most Americans see some good coming from it. Some 37% say no one in the country will benefit from the measure.
As the exchanges open for business, 52% say the health insurance system created by Obamacare is a disaster waiting to happen, with 45% saying the system will eventually work.
The poll was conducted for CNN by ORC International September 27-29, with 803 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#394 May 14, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean by "our own program"?
I didn't say "our own program" I said "their own program."

I should have said programs, but since this is a thread about Obama Care, then to some it may be obvious that the program referenced was Obama Care.

Just in case you are a Fox News watcher and don't have any information, let me inform you. When Obama started the effort to reform Health care in the USA, he brought together interested groups to discuss how it should be done. He brought in Pharms, insurance companies, hospital representatives etc. They could all present whatever plan they wanted and the plans would be graded by the GAO to see which plans had the best effect. However, he did not allow a group of doctors who were pushing universal single payer. Those who wanted the other plans knew that if Universal Single Payer were graded, it would come out much much better than any other plan at reducing costs and improving health care for millions. They asked Obama to prevent this from happening, and Obama caved, and had those doctors arrested so they could not present at the meeting.

The "winning" plan was straight from the Heritage Foundation, the republican party supported and implemented in Mass. insurance scam. The GOP decided they had to reject their own plan simply because Obama supported it. Obama took the GOP plan, and since the GOP won't work with Obama, they came out looking completely disingenuous. Here was the plan they created, and now they had to hate it, and fight against it. Obama made them look like fools, which they were. The bad part was now the nation was stuck with the horrible GOP plan, a continuation of the insurance scams, with no relief in sight. The GOP has to hate it, but they cannot come up with any other plan, knowing Obama would adopt whatever changes they wanted at the drop of a hat, no matter how obnoxious.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#395 May 14, 2014
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say "our own program" I said "their own program."
I should have said programs, but since this is a thread about Obama Care, then to some it may be obvious that the program referenced was Obama Care.
Just in case you are a Fox News watcher and don't have any information, let me inform you. When Obama started the effort to reform Health care in the USA, he brought together interested groups to discuss how it should be done. He brought in Pharms, insurance companies, hospital representatives etc. They could all present whatever plan they wanted and the plans would be graded by the GAO to see which plans had the best effect. However, he did not allow a group of doctors who were pushing universal single payer. Those who wanted the other plans knew that if Universal Single Payer were graded, it would come out much much better than any other plan at reducing costs and improving health care for millions. They asked Obama to prevent this from happening, and Obama caved, and had those doctors arrested so they could not present at the meeting.
The "winning" plan was straight from the Heritage Foundation, the republican party supported and implemented in Mass. insurance scam. The GOP decided they had to reject their own plan simply because Obama supported it. Obama took the GOP plan, and since the GOP won't work with Obama, they came out looking completely disingenuous. Here was the plan they created, and now they had to hate it, and fight against it. Obama made them look like fools, which they were. The bad part was now the nation was stuck with the horrible GOP plan, a continuation of the insurance scams, with no relief in sight. The GOP has to hate it, but they cannot come up with any other plan, knowing Obama would adopt whatever changes they wanted at the drop of a hat, no matter how obnoxious.
I think that much of what you are talking about is in reference to "RomneyCare", the Massachusetts pioneering health insurance exchange. You know, the one that Massachusetts officials disclosed in February that they were considering a transition to HealthCare.gov . because it SUCKS.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/massach...
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#396 May 14, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that much of what you are talking about is in reference to "RomneyCare", the Massachusetts pioneering health insurance exchange. You know, the one that Massachusetts officials disclosed in February that they were considering a transition to HealthCare.gov . because it SUCKS.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/massach...
Yes, Romney Care, Obama Care, the same thing. When Clinton put his wife in charge to come up with health care reform, the GOP tasked the Heritage foundation to come up with an alternative. They came up with what eventually was called Romney Care. They wanted to make sure the public had no access to health care, so they created this scam to transfer our wealth to the insurance company executives. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama got additional "campaign donations" from the insurance companies just like the GOP did. They are making billions off this scam. While it's is indeed horrible, it is slightly better than what we had previously. It will probably cost a slight bit less. Probably have minor improvement in health. But it is still exorbitantly expensive. It still transfers our wealth to a few rich people so they don't have to work for anything ever again.

The funny part is the GOP cannot even offer any alternative for fear Obama will actually give it to them. The twisting and turning would be hilarious if it weren't for the bad public policy.
facts are facts

Minneapolis, MN

#397 May 14, 2014
one party voted for this tax, one team voted for this tax.

The liberal left wing nut jobs, bring on the MID TERM elections.

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a liberal mess wrote:
Less than one in five Americans say their families will be better off under the new health care law, according to a new poll.
But a CNN/ORC International survey released Tuesday morning also indicates a majority say the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare, will help some people, with 37% saying the law, which is gradually starting to kick in, won't help anyone.
According to the poll, four in 10 say the new law will make their families worse off, while 41% believe it will have no effect.
Seventeen percent think the measure will be a good thing for themselves or their families.
The poll's release comes on the same day as a key element of the health care law takes effect, as Americans without insurance can begin enrolling in state insurance exchanges.
And it comes hours after the shutdown of the federal government courtesy of a bitter partisan battle over the new health care law.
According to the poll, 36% say they won't benefit from the new law but other families will. If you add to that the 17% who believe Obamacare will help them personally, the survey indicates that most Americans see some good coming from it. Some 37% say no one in the country will benefit from the measure.
As the exchanges open for business, 52% say the health insurance system created by Obamacare is a disaster waiting to happen, with 45% saying the system will eventually work.
The poll was conducted for CNN by ORC International September 27-29, with 803 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#401 Jun 13, 2014
Access to a queue and access to care is not the same thing.

Obamacare-created narrow networks are preventing Americans from actually using their health insurance and will soon spread to the entire insurance market, health policy expert and physician Scott Gottlieb testified to a House committee Thursday.

“These narrow networks will start to roll out to other parts of the market — the commercial market, the Medicare Advantage market,” Gottlieb said at a House Energy and Commerce subcommittee hearing.“It’s not going to be confined to Obamacare.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/12/obamacare-f...
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#402 Sep 11, 2014
NBC reports that nearly 250,000 people in Virginia will lose their health care plans due to Obamacare:

If you like your plan you can keep it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#403 Sep 11, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
NBC reports that nearly 250,000 people in Virginia will lose their health care plans due to Obamacare:
If you like your plan you can keep it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
What's the real underlying reason that you hate the ACA? what do you against Americans having health insurance? why are you so sinister and deceiving?
Boots on the ground

Saint Paul, MN

#404 Sep 11, 2014
Healthcare Insurance is different than healthcare.

Prior to Obama care everyone had healthcare but didn't have healthcare insurance, well they all had free healthcare insurance that wasn't documented. It was adhoc healthcare.

Obamacare just added a thick layer of Government workers between patients and the doctors. Those Government workers and their WEB sites contribute NOTHING to improve anyones healthcare, but increase the cost of healthcare to all Americans.

Obamacare is a BS concept whos day has come and gone, time to get rid of it and focus on providing actual healthcare and not healthcare insurance..
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#406 Sep 11, 2014
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> What's the real underlying reason that you hate the ACA? what do you against Americans having health insurance? why are you so sinister and deceiving?
Do you hear that flushing noise?

Two Planned Parenthood chapters, two United Way organizations, a food bank association and a Catholic hospital system are among 90 nonprofit groups that will receive a total of $60 MILLION to help people sign up for health insurance, the Department of Health and Human Services announced today.

http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org/index.ph...
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#407 Sep 12, 2014
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> What's the real underlying reason that you hate the ACA? what do you against Americans having health insurance? why are you so sinister and deceiving?
Maybe we should start taking more of your money to pay for this cluster flock of a program since the healthy young citizens have stayed away from it. Maybe they were smart enough to realize that their only purpose was to be the taxed base to support the aging population or, maybe they couldn't afford it since all they can find is a part time job...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#408 Sep 12, 2014
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> What's the real underlying reason that you hate the ACA? what do you against Americans having health insurance? why are you so sinister and deceiving?
No one has anything against Americans having health insurance. What thinking people have a problem with is a government that forces it's people to purchase health insurance even if they don't want it. And a government that enforces that via the IRS which could include fines or even imprisonment if they don't pay up.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#409 Sep 12, 2014
Boots on the ground wrote:
Healthcare Insurance is different than healthcare.
Prior to Obama care everyone had healthcare but didn't have healthcare insurance, well they all had free healthcare insurance that wasn't documented. It was adhoc healthcare.
Obamacare just added a thick layer of Government workers between patients and the doctors. Those Government workers and their WEB sites contribute NOTHING to improve anyones healthcare, but increase the cost of healthcare to all Americans.
Obamacare is a BS concept whos day has come and gone, time to get rid of it and focus on providing actual healthcare and not healthcare insurance..
What is it that you don't get about insurance idiot?
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#410 Sep 12, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you hear that flushing noise?
Two Planned Parenthood chapters, two United Way organizations, a food bank association and a Catholic hospital system are among 90 nonprofit groups that will receive a total of $60 MILLION to help people sign up for health insurance, the Department of Health and Human Services announced today.
http://capsules.kaiserhealthnews.org/index.ph...
Me think that's great a positive for the people why don't you?
Boots on the ground

Saint Paul, MN

#411 Sep 12, 2014
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text>
What is it that you don't get about insurance idiot?
What is it that you don't get about insurance idiot?
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#412 Sep 12, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe we should start taking more of your money to pay for this cluster flock of a program since the healthy young citizens have stayed away from it. Maybe they were smart enough to realize that their only purpose was to be the taxed base to support the aging population or, maybe they couldn't afford it since all they can find is a part time job...
Who is we? you're only a WE on topix and give to charity then you pay in taxes moocher.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#413 Sep 12, 2014
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
No one has anything against Americans having health insurance. What thinking people have a problem with is a government that forces it's people to purchase health insurance even if they don't want it. And a government that enforces that via the IRS which could include fines or even imprisonment if they don't pay up.
Americans that can afford healthcare should be fine,why because we all pay for their greed when they use the services that others pay for and they will get sick and they will become ill and they will die someday

Also Can't were the only industrial country in the world that didn't insure our people,.but relied on corporate for profit American for healthcare shame on you for being so selfish.
time to repeal

Minneapolis, MN

#414 Sep 12, 2014
Dutch wrote:
<quoted text>
The only states that having a problem with the ACA are Red States
that are sabotaging the federal exchange network,look how well that the ACA is working in Blue states that have their own exchanges.
Fear is all that you have and the only is scare is you and your koolaide drinkers were getting this done what suggestions do you republicans he?
all the left wing nut jobs, that follow their muslim-socialst dictator should put down the jim jones aka barry soetoro kool juice. the party is over THANK GOD for mid term elections, conservative Republicans will control both HOUSE and SENATE. Your boy will become the true LAME DUCK.

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