LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#365 Apr 1, 2014
redeemer wrote:
<quoted text> Say idiot where have been today,we got over 7 million people enroll in the ACA(Obamacare) as of 9pm yesterday,we won and the GOP has lost.
I agree that the middle class has lost on this one - when you consider that 4 out of 5 get SUBSIDIZED private insurance through Obamacare. That money has to come from somewhere.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#366 Apr 1, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that the middle class has lost on this one - when you consider that 4 out of 5 get SUBSIDIZED private insurance through Obamacare. That money has to come from somewhere.
Your entitle to your own opinions,but not your own false facts.
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#367 Apr 1, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that the middle class has lost on this one - when you consider that 4 out of 5 get SUBSIDIZED private insurance through Obamacare. That money has to come from somewhere.
The rates in my company just went down 30%. Oh where oh where is that money going to come from?????

Maybe the money will come from reduced costs the government used to pay to emergency rooms for minor treatments that are more efficiently handled in a clinic.

Hey, how about bringing back just 20% of the jobs the GOP shipped to China? That way people could pay for their own health care.

Besides why don't you like the invention of the Heritage Foundation? They are "conservative through and through.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#370 Apr 11, 2014
Somebody finally opened their eyes:
How Obamacare Leaves Some People Without Doctors

The first national open enrollment period under the Affordable Care Act ended last week, with a total of more than 10 million Americans signing up for public and private health plans through the insurance exchanges created under the law. More than 3 million of those enrollees are in California. Across the U.S., because of ACA government subsidies and an expansion of Medicaid in more than half of all states, many individuals and families who previously couldn't afford insurance now can.

However, nationwide, about 70 percent of Obamacare plans offer fewer hospitals and doctors than employer-sponsored group plans or pre-ACA individual market plans, according to a study by consulting firm McKinsey & Company released in December. This narrowed number of doctors and hospitals is what Friedlander encountered when trying to match a surgeon and hospital that would both be covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/obam...
Blue Tool

Minneapolis, MN

#372 Apr 11, 2014
IMHO, all ACA accomplished was to insert a layer of Government idiots between your doctor and you.

The Libertards are experts at finding voters and ACA enrolllees. I suspect enrollees were paid or somehow bribed to get them to signup for ACA.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#374 Apr 11, 2014
Don Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
...
Hey, how about bringing back just 20% of the jobs the GOP shipped to China? That way people could pay for their own health care...
So the UNIONS pricing themselves out of the labor market had nothing to do with it?
Don Joe

Maple Grove, MN

#375 Apr 12, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
<quoted text>
So the UNIONS pricing themselves out of the labor market had nothing to do with it?
Maybe you are right. Why would anyone think that they should be able to earn enough from working all day to actually be able to buy food. Let the free market decide how much wages should be. But then if you want a free market, you can't lobby the government to interfere and eliminate millions of jobs. You can't buy enough congressmen to pass laws to subsidize shipping millions of jobs to China. You can't ask Reagan to make an executive order to refuse to enforce the laws forbidding corporations from hiring illegal aliens. The pattern is clear. The GOP (with help from the democrats) has been systematically using the government to reduce wages and benefits for workers for decades, and now you blame the unions?????? I guess that is what comes from living in the GOP created fantasy world.

Besides most unions are gone, and the GOP removed all their power to do anything, so to claim they have power to price themselves is just silly.
Mid Term elections

Minneapolis, MN

#376 Apr 12, 2014
Republicans did not support or vote for this TAX increase.

This is the one and only topic to run all the liberals out of the house and senate - which will be Republican controlled thanks to this tax bill
a liberal mess wrote:
Less than one in five Americans say their families will be better off under the new health care law, according to a new poll.
But a CNN/ORC International survey released Tuesday morning also indicates a majority say the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare, will help some people, with 37% saying the law, which is gradually starting to kick in, won't help anyone.
According to the poll, four in 10 say the new law will make their families worse off, while 41% believe it will have no effect.
Seventeen percent think the measure will be a good thing for themselves or their families.
The poll's release comes on the same day as a key element of the health care law takes effect, as Americans without insurance can begin enrolling in state insurance exchanges.
And it comes hours after the shutdown of the federal government courtesy of a bitter partisan battle over the new health care law.
According to the poll, 36% say they won't benefit from the new law but other families will. If you add to that the 17% who believe Obamacare will help them personally, the survey indicates that most Americans see some good coming from it. Some 37% say no one in the country will benefit from the measure.
As the exchanges open for business, 52% say the health insurance system created by Obamacare is a disaster waiting to happen, with 45% saying the system will eventually work.
The poll was conducted for CNN by ORC International September 27-29, with 803 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Tax and spend liberals

Minneapolis, MN

#378 Apr 15, 2014
Mid Term elections wrote:
Republicans did not support or vote for this TAX increase.
This is the one and only topic to run all the liberals out of the house and senate - which will be Republican controlled thanks to this tax bill
<quoted text>
Stop taking my money, to pay for your social welfare.

Vote every left wing nut job out that voted for this tax.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#379 Apr 15, 2014
Tax and spend liberals wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop taking my money, to pay for your social welfare.
Vote every left wing nut job out that voted for this tax.
You should start with Chief Justice Roberts hahahaha
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#380 Apr 17, 2014
"More than two dozen widows who were married to retired Madison county employees, lost their health insurance coverage earlier this year. And now one commissioner says it's time to give it back to them. The change was sparked by the new federal health care law, but whether or not coverage can actually be restored really isn't clear," said the anchor.

Says the reporter, "Madison county commissioner Roger Jones says no one realized just how much the new federal health care law would change things, especially for the spouses of some of his former employees."

"A lot of these people are on fixed incomes, low fixed incomes. Some of them are living on Social Security and very little else and health insurance is very important to them," says the county commissioner.

"The widows who were dropped in January had always been covered under the county's old self-insured health care plan. But officials tell us the program had to be abandoned when they were informed that new regulations in Obamacare would amount to an extra $25 million dollars per year, money that chairman Dale Strong says the county simply didn't have," says the local reporter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch...
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#381 Apr 24, 2014
This may turn out to be a DEATH PANEL:

- Your insurance is cancelled because of Obamacare
- You new Obamacare is supposed to be just as good with longstanding doctors and medicines covered
- The TRUTH turns out to be the Obamacare plan denies medications and dropped all previoius doctors
- This has happened to at least a half dozen people who are Staten Island residents alone!
- You end up relying on the kindness of others...

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/04/...
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#382 Apr 24, 2014
LIbEralS wrote:
This may turn out to be a DEATH PANEL:
- Your insurance is cancelled because of Obamacare
- You new Obamacare is supposed to be just as good with longstanding doctors and medicines covered
- The TRUTH turns out to be the Obamacare plan denies medications and dropped all previoius doctors
- This has happened to at least a half dozen people who are Staten Island residents alone!
- You end up relying on the kindness of others...
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/04/...
Correct, when having surgery a nurse at the hospital asked who was the doctor. My response was a good doctor in her opinion. I recall in recovery the family of a paitent was called to a consultaion room for bad news, the doctor IMHO was incompetent. There is a huge difference in quality of doctors, I'll guarentee you Obamacare provides doctors that are not the best. It's all about moving certian students to the head of the class even thou they aren't the best students. After graduation Obamacare gets them a job.
Dead Wolf Expert Here

Honolulu, HI

#383 Apr 24, 2014
Trigger wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, when having surgery a nurse at the hospital asked who was the doctor. My response was a good doctor in her opinion. I recall in recovery the family of a paitent was called to a consultaion room for bad news, the doctor IMHO was incompetent. There is a huge difference in quality of doctors, I'll guarentee you Obamacare provides doctors that are not the best. It's all about moving certian students to the head of the class even thou they aren't the best students. After graduation Obamacare gets them a job.
More bullsh!t from the dead wolf expert. just sayin'

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#384 Apr 25, 2014
I know this was written in November but, I had to have my say. My 24 yo daughter DID NOT get any subsidies on this healthcare plan because of the level of coverage she chose. To qualify, which I found later, you would have to choose the bronze or silver level of coverage which meant a yearly deductible/out of pocket expense of no more the $12,667. Who can afford a deductible like that? It would have been the same for my husband and I had we chosen the silver plan. I pay big on premiums, didn't get a tax break at all but my deductible is only $2000 for us both. We will see if this insurance helps in the long run but, I really don't know. So far it has been good but I've only used it 3 times.
LIbEralS wrote:
NOT affordable.
NOT accessible.
NOT available.
Back in April, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told a congressional subcommittee that any individual making under that $45,960 threshold -- or four times the poverty level of $11,490 for an individual -- would qualify for "an upfront tax subsidy."
"Somebody who's making $25,500 would definitely qualify for a subsidy if he or she is purchasing coverage in the individual market," Sebelius added.
One of the basic tenets of Obamacare is that the government will help lower-income Americans -- anyone making less than about $45,900 a year -- pay for the health insurance everyone is now mandated to have.
But a CNN analysis shows that in the largest city in nearly every state, many low-income younger Americans won't get any subsidy at all. Administration officials said the reason so many Americans won't receive a subsidy is that the cost of insurance is lower than the government initially expected. Subsidies are calculated using a complicated formula based on the cost of insurance premiums, which can vary drastically from state to state, and even county to county.
That doesn't change the fact that in Chicago, a 27-year old will receive no subsidy to help offset premiums of more than $165 a month if he makes more than $27,400 a year.
In Portland, Oregon, subsidies for individuals making just $28,725 a year phase out for those younger than 35 years old.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/22/politics/obamac...

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#385 Apr 25, 2014
I haven't had to change my doctors at all......PCP & Surgeon. I have had doctors say, before this went into effect, that it's going to be a good thing and some say not. I have also heard the docs aren't going to get paid what they are use to and that is going to bring more substandard docs to our care. What is one to believe?
Trigger wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, when having surgery a nurse at the hospital asked who was the doctor. My response was a good doctor in her opinion. I recall in recovery the family of a paitent was called to a consultaion room for bad news, the doctor IMHO was incompetent. There is a huge difference in quality of doctors, I'll guarentee you Obamacare provides doctors that are not the best. It's all about moving certian students to the head of the class even thou they aren't the best students. After graduation Obamacare gets them a job.
Trigger

Minneapolis, MN

#386 Apr 25, 2014
Chelsee11 wrote:
I haven't had to change my doctors at all......PCP & Surgeon. I have had doctors say, before this went into effect, that it's going to be a good thing and some say not. I have also heard the docs aren't going to get paid what they are use to and that is going to bring more substandard docs to our care. What is one to believe?
<quoted text>
Is there any reason why patients can't pay Doctors more than what insurance does? Can we simply give a "good Doctor" $100 for a visit?
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#387 Apr 26, 2014
Trigger wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there any reason why patients can't pay Doctors more than what insurance does? Can we simply give a "good Doctor" $100 for a visit?
We can call it supplemental Obamacare.
Don Joe

Minneapolis, MN

#388 Apr 29, 2014
It is hilarious to read how the republicans hate their own program just because Obama gave it to them. It is almost as funny to see democrats fawning over the program simply because Obama pushed for it, arresting the doctors who wanted universal single payer.

I guess it is still a good thing for the rich to be out in public getting coughed on by those who can't get health care. When they finally wake up, it will be universal care for all, just as a benefit for the rich.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#390 May 13, 2014
Don Joe wrote:
It is hilarious to read how the republicans hate their own program just because Obama gave it to them. It is almost as funny to see democrats fawning over the program simply because Obama pushed for it, arresting the doctors who wanted universal single payer.
I guess it is still a good thing for the rich to be out in public getting coughed on by those who can't get health care. When they finally wake up, it will be universal care for all, just as a benefit for the rich.
What do you mean by "our own program"?

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