Growing clamor for Obama to visit Chicago, address city's violence

Feb 5, 2013 Full story: Chicago Tribune 515

President Barack Obama listens Monday during a discussion in Minneapolis about gun violence, with Minneapolis police Officer Mike Kirchen at left.

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Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#99 Feb 5, 2013
In your "reality", Americans are “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force" and the justice department is Obama ???

Sure, whatever "floats" a teabagger boat.... LMAOROTfu ~!
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#100 Feb 5, 2013
Øbama only 'knows' Chi-town these days when he's raising money, and the money ain't where the people are dying in the streets. Hasn't been to the family home but maybe one time since taking office; it'll be on the market in about three years.

Øbama visit Chi-town and talk about guns? Fuggetaboutit! Toughest gun laws in the country and highest gun violence rate? Chicago is the city that is the strongest evidence against more gun laws.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#101 Feb 5, 2013
Murder rate per 100,000

U.S. 5.22
U.K. 1.19
Germany 0.8
Italy 1.16
Denmark 1.4
Canada 1.16
Austria 0.58
France 1.35
Iceland 0.0
The Netherlands 1.0
New Zealand 1.25

I could go on. In other words, no modern western country has a murder rate ANYTHING like the one the U.S. is suffering under. Guns are the reason.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#102 Feb 5, 2013
Rank City City Rate Metro Rate City/Metro
Ratio
1 New Orleans 69.1 32.8 2.1
2 Detroit 41.4 14.8 2.8
3 Las Vegas 36.9 17.6 2.1
4 Miami 33.5 11.7 2.9
5 Baltimore 33.1 15.2 2.2
6 St. Louis 31.1 14.0 2.2
7 Richmond 29.9 15.7 1.9
8 Memphis 25.5 19.8 1.3
9 Cleveland 25.2 10.9 2.3
10 Philadelphia 24.3 12.4 2.0

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#103 Feb 5, 2013
Hmmm no indication the rates are murder by gun merely murders which leads me to believe this is another straw man adventure by the left.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#104 Feb 5, 2013
What does separate Chicago from New York City is its gang activity. Chicago leads the country in terms of the number of individuals who are direct gang members or involved in gang factions, which are splinter groups associated with larger criminal organizations. There are an estimated 70 to 100 gangs in the Chicago metropolitan area with a membership of between 68,000 and 150,000, according to the 2012 Chicago Crime Commission. New York gang membership is about 22,000, reports the National Gang Intelligence Center in 2009.

Professor Fox of Northeastern says Chicago has a larger minority underclass and harsher socioeconomic conditions than New York City, which makes it difficult to compare the homicide rates of both cities.

“They’re different cities, they’re different in terms of demography, they’re different geographically,” he says.“These are big factors.”

But in October, New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly announced “Operation Crew Cut,” which doubled the size of its gang division from 150 to 300 detectives. It is indicative of how New York has become a national leader in taking on gangs, experts say.

“One of the most interesting stories in policing is why New York has not experienced gang problems to the extent that other cities like Chicago and L.A. have,” Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Foundation Forum, told ABC News.“Kelly's recognition of this emerging issue of gang activity in New York and his comprehensive approach using social media will be watched closely.”

Representatives from the Chicago Police Department did not respond to numerous e-mails and phone messages seeking interviews Friday.

For now, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel has announced he is reassigning 200 officers from desk duties to street patrols of the city’s West and South Sides, where gun violence is highest. That is in addition to the 500 new officers he wants hired in 2013.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#105 Feb 5, 2013
The District of Columbia (Washington DC) has, not only the nation’s most restrictive gun laws, it has the highest rate of murder by firearms. A truly progressive anomaly.
Maxamillion

Saint Paul, MN

#106 Feb 5, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
What does separate Chicago from New York City is its gang activity. Chicago leads the country in terms of the number of individuals who are direct gang members or involved in gang factions, which are splinter groups associated with larger criminal organizations. There are an estimated 70 to 100 gangs in the Chicago metropolitan area with a membership of between 68,000 and 150,000, according to the 2012 Chicago Crime Commission. New York gang membership is about 22,000, reports the National Gang Intelligence Center in 2009.
Professor Fox of Northeastern says Chicago has a larger minority underclass and harsher socioeconomic conditions than New York City, which makes it difficult to compare the homicide rates of both cities.
“They’re different cities, they’re different in terms of demography, they’re different geographically,” he says.“These are big factors.”
But in October, New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly announced “Operation Crew Cut,” which doubled the size of its gang division from 150 to 300 detectives. It is indicative of how New York has become a national leader in taking on gangs, experts say.
“One of the most interesting stories in policing is why New York has not experienced gang problems to the extent that other cities like Chicago and L.A. have,” Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Foundation Forum, told ABC News.“Kelly's recognition of this emerging issue of gang activity in New York and his comprehensive approach using social media will be watched closely.”
Representatives from the Chicago Police Department did not respond to numerous e-mails and phone messages seeking interviews Friday.
For now, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel has announced he is reassigning 200 officers from desk duties to street patrols of the city’s West and South Sides, where gun violence is highest. That is in addition to the 500 new officers he wants hired in 2013.
The 200 desk officers were Dispatchers, when I worked there that was a concern. All Dispatchers were sworn union officers hiding from the streets. Chicago NOT a fun place for a COP infact all officers doing their jobs had some sort of wound from knif, gun, club etc.
realist

Reidsville, NC

#107 Feb 5, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Murder rate per 100,000
U.S. 5.22
U.K. 1.19
Germany 0.8
Italy 1.16
Denmark 1.4
Canada 1.16
Austria 0.58
France 1.35
Iceland 0.0
The Netherlands 1.0
New Zealand 1.25
I could go on. In other words, no modern western country has a murder rate ANYTHING like the one the U.S. is suffering under. Guns are the reason.
And removing all those nasty hand guns from the second largest minority population would do wonders in dropping the murder rate. Blacks killing blacks realllllllly skews the numbers.
realist

Reidsville, NC

#108 Feb 5, 2013
RustyS wrote:
The District of Columbia (Washington DC) has, not only the nation’s most restrictive gun laws, it has the highest rate of murder by firearms. A truly progressive anomaly.
And the population of the second largest minority in Washington DC is far greater than their overall percent of the population nationwide. Blacks killing Blacks, Blacks dealing to Blacks, Blacks robbing Blacks, Blacks beating Blacks,,,,,,,,
CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#109 Feb 5, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Murder rate per 100,000
U.S. 5.22
U.K. 1.19
Germany 0.8
Italy 1.16
Denmark 1.4
Canada 1.16
Austria 0.58
France 1.35
Iceland 0.0
The Netherlands 1.0
New Zealand 1.25
I could go on. In other words, no modern western country has a murder rate ANYTHING like the one the U.S. is suffering under. Guns are the reason.
Obviously there are no Jiggers in Iceland.
Maxamillion

Saint Paul, MN

#111 Feb 5, 2013
IF President was brave he would walk the streets of his home town, Chicago.
PRSIDENT FOODSTAMP

Arlington Heights, IL

#112 Feb 5, 2013
I will make a photo-op in Chicago as soon as the weather warms up enough to get a few rounds of golf in with Rahm.

When I get there, I will:

* Ask all gang members to stop shootin up the hood

* Stop dealing drugs

* Turn their "illegal" guns in ta do police.

* Get a valid "FOID" card

If things don't change, I will issue another Executive Order commanding everybody to comply.

I'll fix everything. I'm President Foodstamp.
realist

Reidsville, NC

#113 Feb 6, 2013
Maxamillion wrote:
IF President was brave he would walk the streets of his home town, Chicago.
And Jessie Jackson was so relieved when he was on his brief walk to see that the man walking toward him was a 'white' man. He was so apprehensive that he almost wet his paints.
Full Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#114 Feb 6, 2013
PRSIDENT FOODSTAMP wrote:
I will make a photo-op in Chicago as soon as the weather warms up enough to get a few rounds of golf in with Rahm.
When I get there, I will:
* Ask all gang members to stop shootin up the hood
* Stop dealing drugs
* Turn their "illegal" guns in ta do police.
* Get a valid "FOID" card
If things don't change, I will issue another Executive Order commanding everybody to comply.
I'll fix everything. I'm President Foodstamp.
If there was one thing that our Affirmative Action President COULD do, it is to work toward changing the culture of Death, Disease, and Dependency of these Americans that "Look like they could be his son".

Instead, the Victim Candidate doubles down repeatedly on the reinforcement of the cultural defects that define those that "Look like they could be his son".

Thank You Amerikan Sheeple!
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#115 Feb 6, 2013
Obama and his policies were supported by a majority of voters last November.

The right wing extremist rants of Full Truth were soundly rejected.
someone

Minneapolis, MN

#116 Feb 6, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Obama and his policies were supported by a majority of voters last November.
The right wing extremist rants of Full Truth were soundly rejected.
Try again.

You wont find many long time liberals like me backing Black Bush obama.
Or people like Princeton Professor Cornell West.

That's why current democrats changed their name to "progressives" to cast distance between themselves and the word liberty.

Civil rights leaders and MLK would be ashamed of so called "progressives".

Bet you didn't like Bush waterboarding suspects.
but you don't mind black Bush obama killing Americans without due process.

True liberals have nothing to do with you "progressives".
"Progressives" don't stand for anything but the party. You progressives have no ideology. You don't stand for anything but party rhetoric.

And that's all you have...rhetoric based on opposition to a political party. Not any kind of fundamental virtue or morals or beliefs.
You stand to stand against republican party. Nothing more...nothing less.

After Black Bush signing NDAA and killing Americans without due process...

You so called "progressives" are going to be very thin in numbers.
someone

Saint Paul, MN

#117 Feb 6, 2013
someone wrote:
<quoted text>
Try again.
You wont find many long time liberals like me backing Black Bush obama.
Or people like Princeton Professor Cornell West.
That's why current democrats changed their name to "progressives" to cast distance between themselves and the word liberty.
Civil rights leaders and MLK would be ashamed of so called "progressives".
Bet you didn't like Bush waterboarding suspects.
but you don't mind black Bush obama killing Americans without due process.
True liberals have nothing to do with you "progressives".
"Progressives" don't stand for anything but the party. You progressives have no ideology. You don't stand for anything but party rhetoric.
And that's all you have...rhetoric based on opposition to a political party. Not any kind of fundamental virtue or morals or beliefs.
You stand to stand against republican party. Nothing more...nothing less.
After Black Bush signing NDAA and killing Americans without due process...
You so called "progressives" are going to be very thin in numbers.
That's the most ridiculous post I've read in a long time.

Give it up, Obama and the Democrats soundly defeated the GOP.

America has spoken.
Full Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#118 Feb 6, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Obama and his policies were supported by a majority of voters last November.
The right wing extremist rants of Full Truth were soundly rejected.
Ya.

Repeat after me, Repeat after me, Repeat after me, Repeat after me.

I do give you some credit for growth Grasshopper. Finally you have posted a "Truth".

"a majority of voters last November".

A majority of voters DID Re Erect Barry Soetoro.
20% of Amerikans voted for their Messiah, and America lost.

But lemme be a little bit of a party pooper Grasshopper.

YOU and your Co-Sheeple could not create a cohesive explanation of ANY policy of the Handlers of Barry Soetoro.

There is no "Policy" for Narcissistic Hedonists and their Situational Ethics, other than a strict adherence to the precepts of the 7 Deadly Sins.
someone

Minneapolis, MN

#119 Feb 6, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Obama and his policies were supported by a majority of voters last November.
The right wing extremist rants of Full Truth were soundly rejected.
ACLU is gaining support from true liberals and libertarians. Along with constitutionalists.

Obama can call himself a democrat all he wants.

No one that is literate is buying his hope and shit.

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