St. Peter Santa gets the heave-ho-ho-ho

St. Peter Santa gets the heave-ho-ho-ho

There are 132 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 14, 2010, titled St. Peter Santa gets the heave-ho-ho-ho. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

This Santa slid down no chimney, but he feels he and the kids got the shaft nonetheless.

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John Mundt

United States

#1 Dec 15, 2010
It's not hard to beleive that our new settlers are so set in their ways. Every thing
worked so well for them where they came from. So let's move to southern Minnesota and try to changes that worked so poorly for us and force it onto the
Minnesotans.

I wonder if the sale of toilet paper in this area has been reduced as well.

Really, they choose to come to Minnesota - they need to git in, to accept change
and live with it. If they don't like they have here move back to where you came from.
Charles Manson

Webster, NY

#2 Dec 15, 2010
"They're not respecting the majority" That is the problem we fall over to protect one person(s) views instead of the majority. BS I say

She didn't say how many objections were made, but said that program parents are surveyed annually to gauge their feelings toward holiday observances in classes.

She indicated that more than one objection would be sufficient to waive an observance.

In that case how is anything done? you know you would have at least one person objecting to every idea brought up.
Lenny

United States

#3 Dec 15, 2010
I am torn on this issue. On the one hand, this is a predominately Christian country, like it or not. We should respect all cultural traditions from Christmas to Hanukkah to Festivus.

On the other hand, half an hour when the kids should be learning seems like a waster of time. How about we keep schools free of as many distractions from learning as possible? How about we focus on learning and paying attention and less on distractions on a daily basis.

I raised four kids and all of them had attention problems before they got to high school. Fortunately, we were in a position to pay for a private program that taught kids to focus on the school work and avoid distractions. They became disciplined studiers.(They had fun at other things, but when they studied, they were all business.) They all did well and the last will be graduating from undergrad this Spring. All have gone on (or been accepted) to get advanced degrees. But that's because we paid to get them to focus on studying---something far too few schools do--and they provide far too many distractions during the school day that prevent this skill from being learned.
Dave

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Dec 15, 2010
Why do we give in to people customs just because in there country they don't have SANTA, Well in our country we do. So let them see how we live. or you can send your nonprofit funds and send them home to live.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#5 Dec 15, 2010
Just get here, legally or illegally. The liberals will jump through flaming hoops for you. They will do or say whatever you tell them to do, even at the expense of ceasing the traditions of a majority. The other parents (the majority) should stand up and be counted.
Zan

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Dec 15, 2010
I am sick of the PC BS in this country. If we were in another country such as Saudi Arabia we as women would have to cover our head. To the Somali here in the US. Suck it up or go home!

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#7 Dec 15, 2010
Lenny wrote:
I am torn on this issue. On the one hand, this is a predominately Christian country, like it or not. We should respect all cultural traditions from Christmas to Hanukkah to Festivus.
being learned.
That's a little serious. School, work, home or whatever should include some laughter and fun. And Santa always brings both.
Amused

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Dec 15, 2010
What a bunch of crap! Why is it we have to respect THEIR cultural differences & observances, but they don't have to respect ours? Sorry, Head Start but that was a tactless move. You could have better handled it by letting Santa come but posting it ahead of time to let all parents know in case they wished to keep their kids home that day.
Annie

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Dec 15, 2010
It's not like the guy was dressing up as Jesus.
BRM

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Dec 15, 2010
I feel sorry for the kids who enjoy seeing Santa that have to give up a privilege
and something positive. Immigrants move to the U.S. for freedom and then take our freedom away. They should respect the fact that they are here in the U.S. and we make concessions for them to be here by providing jobs so their kids can even be in school. Maybe it is time immigrants explain (and our schools explain) to these kids the difference in culture and that Santa is what we believe in.
This is our Country

United States

#11 Dec 15, 2010
Get the F out if you dont like it! Are they putting in foot baths for these people also?
If i were a parent who had my child there they would be pulled!
Goldy1

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Dec 15, 2010
Wow, we just keep having our rights and our children's rights trampled on in the name of cultural diversity and sensitivity. One voice of objection justifies doing away with a tradition or traditions that are anticipated and enjoyed by a majority of people? This is one of the most infuriating actions I've seen taken in Minnesota. Does one really need to think about or analyze why more and more people are becoming intolerant of Somalians living in Minnesota? These people do not want to assimilate, they want to dominate, and they are using our own laws and "sensitivity policies" against us in order to accomplish their goals.

Since: Apr 10

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Dec 15, 2010
Lenny wrote:
I am torn on this issue. On the one hand, this is a predominately Christian country, like it or not. We should respect all cultural traditions from Christmas to Hanukkah to Festivus.
On the other hand, half an hour when the kids should be learning seems like a waster of time. How about we keep schools free of as many distractions from learning as possible? How about we focus on learning and paying attention and less on distractions on a daily basis.
I raised four kids and all of them had attention problems before they got to high school. Fortunately, we were in a position to pay for a private program that taught kids to focus on the school work and avoid distractions. They became disciplined studiers.(They had fun at other things, but when they studied, they were all business.) They all did well and the last will be graduating from undergrad this Spring. All have gone on (or been accepted) to get advanced degrees. But that's because we paid to get them to focus on studying---something far too few schools do--and they provide far too many distractions during the school day that prevent this skill from being learned.
If your children had attention problems before High School, I am sure it did not have to do with the 1/2 of fun and laughter they might have received. All kids need a little laughter and fun.

This is BS that a few people can ruin it for all the other kids.
LottiesMommy

Louisville, CO

#15 Dec 15, 2010
My daughter attends a childcare center and I would not approve of Santa visiting the school and I am christian. I certainly don't like the idea of someone handing out candy at the ceneter who is neither a teacher nor a parent at the school.

If the kids like Santa... well, then let them see him somewhere else - seems like school/childcare is not the appropriate place for a non-parent/non-teacher to dress up and stop in to talk to the kids and hand out candy. I think head-start did the right thing. Certainly these children are not being denied the ability to see santa some other place and time.

Seems like this is an odd news story anyway. So, one volunteer Santa was told he couldn't visit and this is suddenly news? Seems a bit overkill to me.
Wow

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Dec 15, 2010
All of you posters here would be the first ones objecting if a devil worshiper came into the school at Halloween time to give out voodoo dolls. This is no different. Have any of you ever heard of the word tolerance? One meaning of that word is not shoving YOUR customs down someone else's throat. There is no reason for Santa to be going into a publically funded school setting. It's not like anyone is preventing you from taking your kid to the mall to see Santa.

“Don't Say Like Dat”

Since: May 08

Jerusalem

#17 Dec 15, 2010
dont say like dat

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#18 Dec 15, 2010
LottiesMommy wrote:
My daughter attends a childcare center and I would not approve of Santa visiting the school and I am christian. I certainly don't like the idea of someone handing out candy at the ceneter who is neither a teacher nor a parent at the school.
If the kids like Santa... well, then let them see him somewhere else - seems like school/childcare is not the appropriate place for a non-parent/non-teacher to dress up and stop in to talk to the kids and hand out candy. I think head-start did the right thing. Certainly these children are not being denied the ability to see santa some other place and time.
Seems like this is an odd news story anyway. So, one volunteer Santa was told he couldn't visit and this is suddenly news? Seems a bit overkill to me.
Sounds to me like they got to you, and you're not aware of it. Santa's school visits were one of the most anticipated days of the school year when I was in school. You could cut the excitement in the air with a knife. He was usually in each class for no more than 10 minutes... oh the shame of it all. The person who plays the part is usually well known within the community.

“Ahhhh hee ahw”

Since: Aug 09

Twin Cities

#19 Dec 15, 2010
What a bunch of Grinches

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20 Dec 15, 2010
Wow wrote:
All of you posters here would be the first ones objecting if a devil worshiper came into the school at Halloween time to give out voodoo dolls. This is no different. Have any of you ever heard of the word tolerance? One meaning of that word is not shoving YOUR customs down someone else's throat. There is no reason for Santa to be going into a publically funded school setting. It's not like anyone is preventing you from taking your kid to the mall to see Santa.
This is no different.. WHAT? Sheesh! I guess the Somali's never heard of the word tolerance, right?
Hometown Girl

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Dec 15, 2010
Amen!
"They're not respecting the majority," he said. "My feeling is (objecting parents) can take their kids out of class for half an hour and let the other kids enjoy it. They should sacrifice, not rule."

This is the hardest part of accepting the diversity in MN. Why must we stop centuries-old traditions for 1,2,5 kids (or their parents)? Please be creative, programs such as this... find an activity that relates to their needs/ requests. Feel free to do these things in reverse. Create activites related to all of the cultures and if there are people that don't want to participate then it is there turn to sit out...
Oh, wait... that's racist.
reverse racism is the actual problem here. Sad, that kids are taught it is ok to be diverse, but only one way.

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