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Amusd Slew

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In all, teachers appear to have come out ahead in a strike that gained nationwide attention, said Robert Bruno, a professor of labor and employment relations at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and director of its Labor Education Program in Chicago.

"Across the board, on every issue, the teachers got a more favorable outcome than the school system," he said Wednesday.

The deal, which still must be ratified by the union's overall membership, calls for an average raise of 17.6% over four years, down from the 30% initially sought by the union.

But it also strips out a merit pay program that would have been tied to increased emphasis on student test scores.

That emphasis remains in the contract -- it's mandated by state law -- but scores will count for a lower percentage of teacher evaluations. The district had wanted scores to count for as much as 45% of evaluations. It will count for no more than 30%, according to the deal.

Teachers also managed to hold the line on health insurance increases, and protect seniority pay increases and raises for additional education that the school system wanted to limit or eliminate.

Union officials also trumpeted victories in giving laid-off teachers better job opportunities than district officials had proposed, more control over their own jobs and protections from intimidation by supervisors..

The union didn't get all it wanted. In addition to the salary compromise, the school day and year will be extended, effectively adding more than two years of instruction time to to the school career of a student who starts next year, Emanuel said.

Teachers also backed off on their insistence that laid-off teachers be given even more consideration for jobs.

"The mayor doesn't walk away empty-handed from this," Bruno said. "He's not a loser ultimately in this."

The contract deal, endorsed Tuesday night by teacher union representatives, is an "honest compromise," Emanuel said after teachers had agreed to return to work.

"This is in the best interest of our students, who need the very best teachers," he said Tuesday. "It is in the best interest of our teachers, who always strive to achieve the best results they can for their students and want to develop as professionals, as every professional does."
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Unite we stand,divide we fall Congrats!

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redeemer wrote:
Unite we stand,divide we fall Congrats!
What happened in Fargo?

I thought they were very united up there, weren't they? Hell, the union membership voted down the contract from American Crystal Sugar at least 4 times. It doesn't get more united than that, does it?

I do hope it works out better for the SEIU folks than it did for the Crystal Sugar folks.

6,000 union jobs - gone. Be careful now SEIU members. You are not in what would be called a strong bargaining position.

Just say "NO" to jobs.
Just say "YES" to union bosses.
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Pay no attention to the Deceive,that hides behind the face of the good looking President and Winner!
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Smart Liberal wrote:
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What happened in Fargo?
I thought they were very united up there, weren't they? Hell, the union membership voted down the contract from American Crystal Sugar at least 4 times. It doesn't get more united than that, does it?
I do hope it works out better for the SEIU folks than it did for the Crystal Sugar folks.
6,000 union jobs - gone. Be careful now SEIU members. You are not in what would be called a strong bargaining position.
Just say "NO" to jobs.
Just say "YES" to union bosses.
Yeah, they left out the Hostess contract negotiations with an inflexible union too..........

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<quoted text>Yeah, they left out the Hostess contract negotiations with an inflexible union too..........
That they did. I should have thought of that after your thread this morning.

To compare a public union in a Democrat Machine town like Chicago to a private union of unskilled workers in Minneapolis is asinine.

You do have to feel empathy for the union members that will be out of work if their union bosses try to flex their muscle in this dispute. They will be out of a job and are not really prepared to get a better job elsewhere.

Plus, a core contingency of SEIU janitorial members are not legally in this country - that cuts their odds for a better paying job down even more.

I hope they realize they are not in a position to dictate in this contract. But sadly, I anticipate a strike and all of the ugliness that goes with it.
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<quoted text>Yeah, they left out the Hostess contract negotiations with an inflexible union too..........
Yeah, that darn union, asking management to fund agreed upon retirements accounts, when management needed vacation monies... Heck, Americans should get old and die broke, like God intended, when he crossed a *ss with a donkey and made moron management. Hey, tell us all about how management has NO RESPONSIBILITY, I like corporate welfare stories....
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Hostess Brands Inc. said it used wages that were supposed to help fund employee pensions for the company's operations as it sank toward bankruptcy.

It isn't clear how many of the Irving, Texas, company's workers were affected by the move or how much money never wound up in their pension plans as promised.

After the company said in August 2011 that it would stop making pension contributions, the foregone wages weren't put toward the pension. Nor were they restored.

The maker of Twinkies, Ho-Hos and Wonder Bread filed for bankruptcy protection in January and shut down last month following a strike by one of the unions representing Hostess workers. A judge is overseeing the sale of company assets.

Gregory Rayburn, Hostess's chief executive officer, said in an interview it is "terrible" that employee wages earmarked for the pension were steered elsewhere by the company.

"I think it's like a lot of things in this case," he added. "It's not a good situation to have."
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Smart Liberal wrote:
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I do hope it works out better for the SEIU folks than it did for the Crystal Sugar folks.
You mean the replacement workers, right ???

Officials are saying little about an accident that seriously burned a worker at the American Crystal Sugar Co. plant in East Grand Forks last week.

A Crystal Sugar spokesman says the man "came into contact with lot liquid and was burned," and that the Moorhead-based sugar beet processor is investigating.

But since the man is a replacement worker — working under contract during Crystal Sugar's lockout of union members — the company can't say much about the accident.

The Grand Forks Herald was referred to the man's employer, Strom Engineering Corp. in Minnetonka. But Strom's national safety manager declined to comment to the Herald.

The Crystal Sugar lockout began on Aug. 1, 2011, and affected about 1,300 workers at plants in North Dakota, Minnesota and Iowa.

LOOKS LIKE DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER DANGER !!!! Gotta love people who never "worked" a day in their lives....

commenting on REAL JOBS ~!
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Hey, good news... The guy's on lighter medication to see if he can breathing on his own ...yet ?? Oh look, OSHA is involved to see why inexperienced folks are getting hurt.

James Honerman, an OSHA spokesman based in the Twin Cities, confirmed in an email Wednesday that the agency has opened an inspection, but said little information was available yet, including how long the investigation will take.

Typically, an OSHA team will tour the work area and factory, take photos or videos, examine records and interview employees privately, among other things, he said.

The most recent OSHA inspection at the East Grand Forks factory began in October 2011, he said. By January 2012, OSHA determined there was a “serious” violation involving wiring methods and equipment, and a less serious violation, both settled for a fine of $5,250, down from an initial $8,700 fine. The inspection was closed August 2012.

Bakery Workers union officials previously have blamed less serious accidents since the lock-out, including some fires at some of Crystal’s five Red River Valley factories, on the inexperience of the replacement workers. It wasn’t clear yet what might have caused the Jan. 29 accident.
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Hey, good news... The guy's on lighter medication to see if he can begin breathing on his own ...yet ?? Oh look, OSHA is involved to see why inexperienced folks are getting hurt.

James Honerman, an OSHA spokesman based in the Twin Cities, confirmed in an email Wednesday that the agency has opened an inspection, but said little information was available yet, including how long the investigation will take.

Typically, an OSHA team will tour the work area and factory, take photos or videos, examine records and interview employees privately, among other things, he said.

The most recent OSHA inspection at the East Grand Forks factory began in October 2011, he said. By January 2012, OSHA determined there was a “serious” violation involving wiring methods and equipment, and a less serious violation, both settled for a fine of $5,250, down from an initial $8,700 fine. The inspection was closed August 2012.

Bakery Workers union officials previously have blamed less serious accidents since the lock-out, including some fires at some of Crystal’s five Red River Valley factories, on the inexperience of the replacement workers. It wasn’t clear yet what might have caused the Jan. 29 accident.
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Really ?? No comments on the risk faced by unprofessional strike breakers getting hurt on the job ?? Funny, OSHA is in on it NOW ~!!!
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Hey, good news... The guy's on lighter medication to see if he can begin breathing on his own ...yet ?? Oh look, OSHA is involved to see why inexperienced folks are getting hurt.

James Honerman, an OSHA spokesman based in the Twin Cities, confirmed in an email Wednesday that the agency has opened an inspection, but said little information was available yet, including how long the investigation will take.

Typically, an OSHA team will tour the work area and factory, take photos or videos, examine records and interview employees privately, among other things, he said.

The most recent OSHA inspection at the East Grand Forks factory began in October 2011, he said. By January 2012, OSHA determined there was a “serious” violation involving wiring methods and equipment, and a less serious violation, both settled for a fine of $5,250, down from an initial $8,700 fine. The inspection was closed August 2012.

Bakery Workers union officials previously have blamed less serious accidents since the lock-out, including some fires at some of Crystal’s five Red River Valley factories, on the inexperience of the replacement workers. It wasn’t clear yet what might have caused the Jan. 29 accident.
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LOOKS LIKE DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER DANGER !!!! Gotta love people who never "worked" a day in their lives....

commenting on REAL JOBS ~!

Officials are saying little about an accident that seriously burned a worker at the American Crystal Sugar Co. plant in East Grand Forks last week.

A Crystal Sugar spokesman says the man "came into contact with lot liquid and was burned," and that the Moorhead-based sugar beet processor is investigating.

But since the man is a replacement worker — working under contract during Crystal Sugar's lockout of union members — the company can't say much about the accident.

The Grand Forks Herald was referred to the man's employer, Strom Engineering Corp. in Minnetonka. But Strom's national safety manager declined to comment to the Herald.

The Crystal Sugar lockout began on Aug. 1, 2011, and affected about 1,300 workers at plants in North Dakota, Minnesota and Iowa.
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There's so much anti union sentiments....

Every battle you win, you lose support.

Especially by the students that these teachers failed.

Then these same kids that were failed by union teachers are to accept low income from low wage service unions.

Save your anti-captialism rebuttal.
The masters of unions bow to masters of capital.
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Some of our nation's highest paid teachers hold some of the nation's poorest children's education hostage, so they can make more money. Now the leftist psychopath brags about it?
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"Some" ???

Odd, you blame teachers, rather than the parents ??? Who have no one at home, raising THEIR KIDS ???

HELL YES, teachers deserve a GREAT WAGE, they're dealing with YOUR PROBLEMS....

While you sit behind your computer and complain about the cost.....
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Bushwhacked wrote:
"Some" ???
Odd, you blame teachers, rather than the parents ??? Who have no one at home, raising THEIR KIDS ???
HELL YES, teachers deserve a GREAT WAGE, they're dealing with YOUR PROBLEMS....
While you sit behind your computer and complain about the cost.....
Teachers are dealing with "our problems", but blame the failure to educate on the administration and the parents? If the parents are to blame, it doesn't matter how much teachers make, because it is out of the control anyway, right?
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Out of "their" control.......
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I like "facts not in evidence", by a lying fool...


Take a do-over, but first pay for Iraq, you said it's your responsibility, tight ?

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