High Speed Rail Supporters Rally in Duluth

Dec 8, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WDIO

Students from the Minnesota Public Interest Research Group in Duluth and the Twin Cities joined forces Saturday to host a "Rolling Press Conference" to raise awareness about the proposed Northern Lights Express high speed rail between Duluth and Minneapolis.

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#82
Dec 11, 2012
 
all minnesota tax payers read this :

was at the local luxury car dealership, the sales mgr. said you just missed it the delivery of a 160,000 car - wow, tell me more, you see the customer is part of the reservation, if the car salesman drives the new car to the reservation and signs the paperwork on site, the customer pays NO TAX !!!

that my friends is a crime indeed !!!

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Lakota wrote:
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Natives employeed off reservation pay state taxes, yes.
Lakota

Minneapolis, MN

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#83
Dec 11, 2012
 
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I think you are correct Wade. But I don't believe they pay any federal or state income tax on the profits made by the casino's them selves. Although, I am not batting very well on being accurate today. I was under the mistaken impression that Grand Casino was affiliated with MGM Grand. My bad.
Grand Casinos were originally managed by a Minnetonka company that also managed Grand Casino Biloxi. Grand Casinos Inc. is still in business although I don't known if they have any casino holdings any longer.

You are correct that the casino profits are not subject to state or federal taxes, because the casinos are tribal government operations.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

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#84
Dec 11, 2012
 
Lakota wrote:
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You cannot enforce a state tax on members of a sovereign nation.
For a sovereign nation you have a pretty large dependence on the state and federal governments. Not to mention all of the non-natives who fund your casino enterprises. Personally I find the whole thing quite illuminating (and a bit ironic) and am pleased that so many of your tribes have managed to do so well with the casino industry. I just believe it was the height of idiocy,(and probably some white guilt), to allow your peoples to monopolize the business for as long as you have. You deserve to do as well as anyone else. You do not deserve to have an eternal monopoly on the business.
Lakota

Minneapolis, MN

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Consistent wrote:
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Were your Tribal Ancestors better off when it was the Chippewa, or the Souix kicking the shaat out of your people, taking their land, breeding their womyn, burning their homes, and stealing the Poles your Womyn used to drag the men folks' Possessions across the ground because your Ancestors never figured out the "wheel", like the rest of humanity had?
My ancestors were not here either when your backwards ancestors fought their last battle against a superior neighbor. But if they were, they would have treated your conquered people like they treated every other enemy when the war was over....You assimilate or perish!
THIS is the great Sin of the White Man....Allowing your ancestors to continue to breed and create the Entitled Natives that America endures today!
I was not going to dignify your racist attack with a response, but I'm wondering why you dislike Natives so much.
Bob Schmahl

Minneapolis, MN

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#86
Dec 11, 2012
 
Lakota wrote:
We are a sovereign nation. We have the authority to levy our own taxes. We do not pay taxes to any county.
I have been polite to you. Why do you attack Natives in general and me in particular?
I don't attack anyone.

If you consider me attacking you it's because you are the only one out here to attack.

I address concerns with you as I would address concerns with anyone from a different nation. Like someone from Afghanistan, you are not an American. Like you say you are in your own sovereign nation.

Enjoy!!

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Rogers, MN

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#87
Dec 11, 2012
 
Lakota wrote:
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Grand Casinos were originally managed by a Minnetonka company that also managed Grand Casino Biloxi. Grand Casinos Inc. is still in business although I don't known if they have any casino holdings any longer.
You are correct that the casino profits are not subject to state or federal taxes, because the casinos are tribal government operations.
Thank you for the information.
Consistent

Grantsburg, WI

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#88
Dec 11, 2012
 
Lakota wrote:
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I was not going to dignify your racist attack with a response, but I'm wondering why you dislike Natives so much.
There is not one thing Racist in what I said.

I have family that are part Native, probably as much Native as you....I share their blood.

I "Dislike" the Culture of entitlement and Victimhood that is a tool used by anyone in America whose Melanin Level is higher than their neighbors.

You members of the Official Victims Classes have extra Rights because of "White Guilt". The culture that you have not evolved very far from, leaves to many in your culture only to happy to take advantage of the "White Guilt", act entitled, and benefit from the sacrifices of the real victims, the Dominant Culture that sustains your defective culture because of your skin color!

I am reminded of an old saying when I think of why it is that some people will use their Racial Background to suckle off thier neighbors (This applies to all the Pale Skinned members of the Official Victim Classes that benefit from White Guilt too)....

"Why does a Dog Lick his Balls?......Because he can.

Yes, you "Can" play your Victim Cards because of White Guilt.....The issue is that you "Should not" play the Victim Card regardless of the color of your skin, and regardless of the Character Defects of those that suffer "White Guilt".
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

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#89
Dec 11, 2012
 
cantmakeitup wrote:
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I think you are correct Wade. But I don't believe they pay any federal or state income tax on the profits made by the casino's them selves. Although, I am not batting very well on being accurate today. I was under the mistaken impression that Grand Casino was affiliated with MGM Grand. My bad.
Lyle Berman of Berman Buckskin fame (later Wilson's Leather) started Grand Casinos, Inc. and his company managed both Grand Casino locations for the first ten years before the Mill Lacs Band of Ojibwe took over and run it themselves. You are correct in that the casinos do not pay any corporate tax to any U.S. government entity.
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Minneapolis, MN

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#90
Dec 11, 2012
 
Lakota wrote:
Why? You took all our land, didn't pay us for it, and killed many of our people.
There is no provision in the state gambling compact for termination. We were granted the right in perpetuity.
You lost the WAR. You failed to inovate, adapt, outthink, and out fight us. Accept it and move on. You can operate casinos, but you should NOT have a MONOPOLY on it. Competition is GOOD.
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Minneapolis, MN

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#91
Dec 11, 2012
 
Lakota wrote:
Indian tribes have the right to conduct gaming activities because they are sovereign nations, guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
Adding slot machines to private businesses would have a negative economic impact on all MN tribal government gaming facilities.
Gambling expansion would lead tribes to lose revenues, cut back operations, and lay off workers.
Indian gaming has helped tribes heal from 200 years of genocide and poverty.
Tribal gaming provides resources to tribal governments to combat huge unmet needs for healthcare and housing in Indian country.
High rates of diabetes, alcoholism, & suicide rates, as well as inadequate housing and educational opportunities plague tribal governments.
Indian tribes retained the right to govern themselves as sovereign nations.
Tribal gaming accounts for more than 20,000 direct jobs and another 21,150 indirect jobs in Minnesota.
If gambling expands in Minnesota, the 41,651 people employed by it would be at risk of losing their jobs, benefits, and healthcare.
Tribal gaming pays wage; buys goods, business and health care services; and makes capital investments.
More than 30,000 Indian gaming jobs (73%) are in rural Minnesota.
Rural casinos account for more than $880 million annually in wages,$130 million in health care benefits, & $268 million in vendor spending.
Tribal governments and casinos are responsible for $1.35 billion in household income, or 1.1% of all wages paid statewide.
Tribal payrolls totals $576 million annually, and indirect activity generates an additional $774 million in wages.
Each year MIGA tribes pay about $150 million in federal & state withholding taxes, including about $18 million in state income taxes.
$329 million was invested in 2007 by tribes in capital projects and $138 million in rural MN.
Tribes build roads, water, waste treatment, community centers, retirement facilities, law enforcement facilities, museums, and libraries.
Expanding gambling would slash the Minnesota tribesí revenues which are needed to combat poverty, unemployment, drug abuse, and other crimes.
Rather than create new jobs, racinos would relocate thousands of jobs in rural communities to the metro area.
Good jobs with benefits are badly needed in rural Minnesota.
Neither racinos nor any expansion of gambling can force an already saturated gambling market to grow.
Any state leader who envision money blowing through the Capitol's doors needs a reality check.
Indian gaming is a proven tool in meeting the need for jobs and economic development without any state financial assistance.
MN tribal gaming spending: 28% health care, 22% government operations, 20% education, 13% housing/economic development, 17% human services/infrastructure.
Tribal casinos spent $298 million statewide on goods and services while tribal governments spent another $241 million within Minnesota.
More than 10,000 businesses in Minnesota benefit from tribal spending.
78% of MN Indian Gaming enterprise employees are non-Native American, with a direct annual payroll of $249.5 million.
Minnesota Indian gaming enterprises pay $81 million in total payroll taxes.
Gaming related construction in Minnesota totals $561 million so far.
Adding slot machines OUTSIDE of the reservations will CREATE JOBS, TAXABLE REVENUE, and provide COMPETITION to the tribes who disclose NOTHING regarding their PROFITS or percentage being paid out. Payroll taxes are paid by NON-tribal employees. Many tribes STILL get payouts from the federal gov't, even though they don't NEED THEM. Most of the tribes in MN do NOT give large checks to their members, their "leadership" keeps the profits SOCKED AWAY, so they can KEEP CONTROL over them and enrich themselves, while most of their tribes continue to suffer. This is WHY monopolies are NOT allowed to exist in the rest of America.
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#92
Dec 11, 2012
 
Wade Gustafson wrote:
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Lyle Berman of Berman Buckskin fame (later Wilson's Leather) started Grand Casinos, Inc. and his company managed both Grand Casino locations for the first ten years before the Mill Lacs Band of Ojibwe took over and run it themselves. You are correct in that the casinos do not pay any corporate tax to any U.S. government entity.
Berman is a TRAITOR to Minnesota. He helped Skippy Humphrey SELL OUT Minnesota, and enriched himself at our expense.
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Burnsville, MN

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#93
Dec 11, 2012
 
If you are going to build high speed rail, at least pick somewhere it has a chance to break even. Duluth to the Twin Cities? Let's see, Duluth has no jobs, no real business, and a city being strangled by its pension plans and union contracts.

If you built a high speed rail anywhere, it should be to Rochester first. Better economy, better financial outlook, and its actually a growing place instead of shrinking every census for the past 40 years. But I guess since it isn't a DFL stronghold, the sensible choice would never stand a chance in this state.
Wade Gustafson

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Berman is a TRAITOR to Minnesota. He helped Skippy Humphrey SELL OUT Minnesota, and enriched himself at our expense.
Skippy and Rudy did this without any assistance from Berman. He did not get involved with the Mill Lacs band until a couple years later
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Wade Gustafson wrote:
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Skippy and Rudy did this without any assistance from Berman. He did not get involved with the Mill Lacs band until a couple years later
Doesn't matter, they were all in it together, and made out like BANDITS, at the expense of Minnesota.
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#96
Dec 11, 2012
 
Can't afford a car, but you have lots of dumb opinions.... Poor dog...
Bob Schmahl

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Dec 11, 2012
 
non-starter wrote:
If you are going to build high speed rail, at least pick somewhere it has a chance to break even. Duluth to the Twin Cities? Let's see, Duluth has no jobs, no real business, and a city being strangled by its pension plans and union contracts.
If you built a high speed rail anywhere, it should be to Rochester first. Better economy, better financial outlook, and its actually a growing place instead of shrinking every census for the past 40 years. But I guess since it isn't a DFL stronghold, the sensible choice would never stand a chance in this state.
Correct.

The Mayo Clinic draws at least 20 people a day, that would be a good number of passengers for a BILLION DOLLAR rail line, in DFL "minds".

You are correct that Duluth is a Liberal Stronghold, that Legislator/Pervert was an honored DFLer was from Duluth.

Plus the DFL (Dumb Forking Liberals) NEVER push for rail to an area that might actually work. You see Duluth is a failing town that slipped from Class "A" town and DFLers use rail to attempt to prop up a failed town, Duluth.

A Duluth rail is doomed to fail, that makes no difference to DFLers.
Wade Gustafson

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digger wrote:
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Doesn't matter, they were all in it together, and made out like BANDITS, at the expense of Minnesota.
All DFLers have 'made out like bandits'. Why the animosity for Berman? He was a good businessman.
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Dec 11, 2012
 
Amused Slew wrote:
Can't afford a car, but you have lots of dumb opinions.... Poor dog...
Here ya go Slewsie, I will tell them who they are dealing with, and why YOU are the Champion!

(Share this with the "Folk" on your floor at the Asylum)

"Formidable Seattle Slewsie"

Our Champ is a World Class Stock Trader, A Brain Surgeon, A DOJO in the Sky Martial Artist, The Perfect Daughter, A Horse Whisperer, A Nobel Prize Winning Spell Checker, The Best Cellmate in the history of the Seattle West Insane Asylum, An Underwear Model with perfect legs, An Adviser to Kings, a Confidant of Presidents, and...... an all around well balanced person in spite of her superior talents.
Robert

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#100
Dec 12, 2012
 
Are we talking about Slug again?

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#101
Dec 12, 2012
 
OK, a bit on the selfish side, but I think a LRT or better yet a high speed train, down the I94 corridor from Hudson or River Falls WI to DT MPLS would be great! The tax payer of Minnesota should pick up the bill seeing they would be saving on all the congestion, ware and tear on the interstate, less highway patrol cars needed to pick up Sconnie Drunks! Just sayin!!

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