High Speed Rail Supporters Rally in D...

High Speed Rail Supporters Rally in Duluth

There are 146 comments on the WDIO story from Dec 8, 2012, titled High Speed Rail Supporters Rally in Duluth. In it, WDIO reports that:

Students from the Minnesota Public Interest Research Group in Duluth and the Twin Cities joined forces Saturday to host a "Rolling Press Conference" to raise awareness about the proposed Northern Lights Express high speed rail between Duluth and Minneapolis.

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CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#42 Dec 11, 2012
digger wrote:
Who in the twin cities is STUPID ENOUGH to send their juvenile delinquent to college in duluth? Are you you kidding me?
If their kids aren't alcoholics by now, they will be after a few months in gay Duluth.
Bob Schmahl

Minneapolis, MN

#43 Dec 11, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
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The Native Americans will get over it. It's time we broke up that monopoly.
Start by taxing casino profits. There are many options for taxing casinos.
Lakota

Saint Paul, MN

#44 Dec 11, 2012
Why? You took all our land, didn't pay us for it, and killed many of our people.

There is no provision in the state gambling compact for termination. We were granted the right in perpetuity.
Lakota

Saint Paul, MN

#45 Dec 11, 2012
Indian tribes have the right to conduct gaming activities because they are sovereign nations, guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

Adding slot machines to private businesses would have a negative economic impact on all MN tribal government gaming facilities.

Gambling expansion would lead tribes to lose revenues, cut back operations, and lay off workers.

Indian gaming has helped tribes heal from 200 years of genocide and poverty.

Tribal gaming provides resources to tribal governments to combat huge unmet needs for healthcare and housing in Indian country.

High rates of diabetes, alcoholism, & suicide rates, as well as inadequate housing and educational opportunities plague tribal governments.

Indian tribes retained the right to govern themselves as sovereign nations.

Tribal gaming accounts for more than 20,000 direct jobs and another 21,150 indirect jobs in Minnesota.

If gambling expands in Minnesota, the 41,651 people employed by it would be at risk of losing their jobs, benefits, and healthcare.

Tribal gaming pays wage; buys goods, business and health care services; and makes capital investments.

More than 30,000 Indian gaming jobs (73%) are in rural Minnesota.

Rural casinos account for more than $880 million annually in wages,$130 million in health care benefits, & $268 million in vendor spending.

A racino at Running Aces Harness Track in Anoka County could take as much as 40% of casino business away from the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe.

Gambling revenue wonít fill Minnesotaís multi-billion dollar deficit hole. It wonít even come close.

Tribal governments and casinos are responsible for $1.35 billion in household income, or 1.1% of all wages paid statewide.

Tribal payrolls totals $576 million annually, and indirect activity generates an additional $774 million in wages.

Each year MIGA tribes pay about $150 million in federal & state withholding taxes, including about $18 million in state income taxes.

$329 million was invested in 2007 by tribes in capital projects and $138 million in rural MN.

Tribes build roads, water, waste treatment, community centers, retirement facilities, law enforcement facilities, museums, and libraries.

Expanding gambling would slash the Minnesota tribesí revenues which are needed to combat poverty, unemployment, drug abuse, and other crimes.

Rather than create new jobs, racinos would relocate thousands of jobs in rural communities to the metro area.

Good jobs with benefits are badly needed in rural Minnesota.

Neither racinos nor any expansion of gambling can force an already saturated gambling market to grow.

Any state leader who envision money blowing through the Capitol's doors needs a reality check.

Indian gaming is a proven tool in meeting the need for jobs and economic development without any state financial assistance.

MN tribal gaming spending: 28% health care, 22% government operations, 20% education, 13% housing/economic development, 17% human services/infrastructure.

Tribal casinos spent $298 million statewide on goods and services while tribal governments spent another $241 million within Minnesota.

More than 10,000 businesses in Minnesota benefit from tribal spending.

78% of MN Indian Gaming enterprise employees are non-Native American, with a direct annual payroll of $249.5 million.

Minnesota Indian gaming enterprises pay $81 million in total payroll taxes.

Gaming related construction in Minnesota totals $561 million so far.
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#46 Dec 11, 2012
Niether of the Above wrote:
<quoted text>You would break a covenant put in place by the former Governor Perpich. We really need to simply cut spending on unnecessary entitlements. Sin Taxes, such as liquor and cig taxes hurt the ones who can least afford to be hurt anymore. The problem is the DFL leadership who claim to be for the "middle Class" don't understand that concept, so they continue to up those two and the gas tax. But thank God we have the DFL in there fighting for those poor bastards
The term is "compact", not covenant. The compact cannot be renegotiated, but it also has zero restrictions regarding whether or not the state of Minnesota can legally open a state-run casino. I am opposed to a full state-run casino but would be open to slots at the horse tracks.
Lakota

Saint Paul, MN

#47 Dec 11, 2012
Minnesota is just one of fourteen states that does not have a revenue sharing provision in their gaming compact.

Indian tribes are governments; governments (Minnesota) canít tax other governments (federally recognized Indian tribes).

Tribes spend $67 million annually on medical and dental insurance for gaming employees and their families.

Tribes spend $23 million annually providing medical and dental insurance for non-gaming tribal government employees.

Indian gaming is the only significant government revenue source for tribes.

A significant drop in gaming revenues would make it impossible for tribes to sustain the progress they've made.

Tribal leaders estimate they need to spend $500 million from gaming revenues over the next 5 years to address unmet tribal needs.

Minnesota tribes were the first in the nation to negotiate and sign gaming compacts with a state government.

Minnesota did not want full-blown Las Vegas-style casinos so the tribes agreed to limit their casinos to slots and blackjack.

Minnesota's tribal-state compacts may not be "re-opened" or renegotiated unless both sides agree to do so.

Gaming compacts assured the state that tribal gaming would never include games like keno, craps, roulette and baccarat.

Perpetual gaming compacts meant tribes would never be held hostage to changing political winds.

The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act prohibits states from taxing tribal casino revenues.

Tribal casinos are tax-exempt because they are government operations, not private, for-profit businesses.

Congress did not intend tribal gaming to be a revenue source for states

Minnesota's gaming market is saturated. This means that overall, the people interested in gaming are already doing so.

Unmet tribal needs for Indian housing statewide are estimated at more than $114 million.

Unmet tribal needs for debt retirement statewide are estimated at more than $150 million.

Unmet tribal needs for government operations statewide are estimated at more than $72 million.

Unmet tribal needs for healthcare statewide are estimated at more than $67 million.

Unmet tribal needs for infrastructure statewide are estimated at more than $32 million.

Indian gaming has helped rural areas by creating new jobs, reducing welfare costs, raising property values and tax revenues, creating new business growth, and increasing tourism.

A racino will cut into revenues here, which in turn will mean that the SMSC will need to cut costs and likely jobs.

As the largest employer in Scott County, the SMSC employ 4,084 people with good benefits and good pay.

SMSCís 4,084 jobs are fueled by Indian Gaming. If gambling were to expand in Minnesota, those jobs would be at risk.

574 Automated External Defibrillators have been given away by the SMSC since 2004 to schools, first responders, and organizations.

SMSC has donated $162 million over the past 12 years to charitable organizations and Indian Tribes.

The SMSC has made more than 77 agreements with local governments since 1969.

More than $30 million in grants largely to other Indian tribes yearly would be at risk if gambling were to expand.

The SMSC paid more than $15.2 million to vendors in Scott County in fiscal year 2009.

The SMSC made total vendor payments of more than $232.5 million in fiscal year 2009.

Over the last 14 years the SMSC has made total inter-governmental payments of $29.5 million to Scott County and other jurisdictions.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#48 Dec 11, 2012
Lakota wrote:
Why? You took all our land, didn't pay us for it, and killed many of our people.
There is no provision in the state gambling compact for termination. We were granted the right in perpetuity.
I did not take your land and neither did my ancestors.
Lakota

Saint Paul, MN

#49 Dec 11, 2012
Wade Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
The term is "compact", not covenant. The compact cannot be renegotiated, but it also has zero restrictions regarding whether or not the state of Minnesota can legally open a state-run casino. I am opposed to a full state-run casino but would be open to slots at the horse tracks.
Canterbury Park has entered into an agreement to not seek slot machines.
Lakota

Saint Paul, MN

#50 Dec 11, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not take your land and neither did my ancestors.
The government of your ancestors did.
Bob Schmahl

Minneapolis, MN

#51 Dec 11, 2012
Lakota wrote:
Why? You took all our land, didn't pay us for it, and killed many of our people.
There is no provision in the state gambling compact for termination. We were granted the right in perpetuity.
Did you scalp anyone?

Did your people kill anyone while expanding their range?

Did you have title to the land or just happen to be the current residents?

You lived on reservations for free for how long?

Does your monopoly on gaming produce profits?

Tribes with casinos live in NICE houses, correct?

Do the tribes with VERY profitable metro casinos share profits with poor outstate tribes?

Do wealthy tribes contribute to poor tribes or does the State fund their lives?

Your people have a lifelong monopoly on gambleing with no termination BUT our Government is not forced to provide access to any casino. Scott County was able to get road funding to improve a road leading to a casino by informing the tribe they would install a toll gate on the road if the tribe didn't provide needed funding.

The tribe provided the needed funds, funny how that works.

Toll gates could be installed on every casino road.
AntiMelting

New Richmond, WI

#52 Dec 11, 2012
All for building it! We can send some of the Twin Cities inner-city trash up to you all. You love diversity? Cho cho, here it comes morons!
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#53 Dec 11, 2012
Bob Schmahl wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you scalp anyone?
Did your people kill anyone while expanding their range?
Did you have title to the land or just happen to be the current residents?
You lived on reservations for free for how long?
Does your monopoly on gaming produce profits?
Tribes with casinos live in NICE houses, correct?
Do the tribes with VERY profitable metro casinos share profits with poor outstate tribes?
Do wealthy tribes contribute to poor tribes or does the State fund their lives?
Your people have a lifelong monopoly on gambleing with no termination BUT our Government is not forced to provide access to any casino. Scott County was able to get road funding to improve a road leading to a casino by informing the tribe they would install a toll gate on the road if the tribe didn't provide needed funding.
The tribe provided the needed funds, funny how that works.
Toll gates could be installed on every casino road.
Is all you do is lie ???

Bob Schmahl wrote:
<quoted text>

Bob Schmahl wrote:
Slew used to make $13.75 when he had a union job....

Slew made $9.00 per hour before he got fired.

Lying isn't something that someone does. Its who they are, and it's a character flaw.

Poor Boob, begging for a buggering ~! LMAOROTFU~!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#54 Dec 11, 2012
Wade Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
The term is "compact", not covenant. The compact cannot be renegotiated, but it also has zero restrictions regarding whether or not the state of Minnesota can legally open a state-run casino. I am opposed to a full state-run casino but would be open to slots at the horse tracks.
I agree Wade. The state can't run a hot dog stand much less a casino. However I do believe that there is room for private gaming here in the state. And while Indian gaming has had some very positive impact on some tribes, others have squandered their revenues. And they should be required to pay corporate taxes on their profits just like every one else. I have nothing against the current casinos or their owners and have visited them myself more times than I care to admit. But there is no reason to continue this tax holiday monopoly for them either.
Lakota

Saint Paul, MN

#55 Dec 11, 2012
Bob Schmahl wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you scalp anyone?
Did your people kill anyone while expanding their range?
Did you have title to the land or just happen to be the current residents?
You lived on reservations for free for how long?
Does your monopoly on gaming produce profits?
Tribes with casinos live in NICE houses, correct?
Do the tribes with VERY profitable metro casinos share profits with poor outstate tribes?
Do wealthy tribes contribute to poor tribes or does the State fund their lives?
Your people have a lifelong monopoly on gambleing with no termination BUT our Government is not forced to provide access to any casino. Scott County was able to get road funding to improve a road leading to a casino by informing the tribe they would install a toll gate on the road if the tribe didn't provide needed funding.
The tribe provided the needed funds, funny how that works.
Toll gates could be installed on every casino road.
Why do you ask such ridiculous questions and make such slanderous accusations? We have a good relationship with Scott County and at no time did the county threaten to place a toll road anywhere.

The Lakota see stewardship over land to be more appropriate than ownership. The white man took our land without just compensation and reneged on the pittance offered.

We are still a sovereign nation.
Bob Schmahl

Minneapolis, MN

#56 Dec 11, 2012
Lakota wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you ask such ridiculous questions and make such slanderous accusations? We have a good relationship with Scott County and at no time did the county threaten to place a toll road anywhere.
The Lakota see stewardship over land to be more appropriate than ownership. The white man took our land without just compensation and reneged on the pittance offered.
We are still a sovereign nation.
Ya well you are a island nation in the middle of the USA.

You operate casinos at the pleasure of the USA!

The following article is about relations between Scott County and the tribe. Note the headlines "icy relations between tribe and Scott County".

If you can read and understand the article there is much talk about how the SUPER RICH indians havn't cooperated in the past and under recent leadership changes the tribe is cooperating more.

http://www.startribune.com/local/south/175033...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#57 Dec 11, 2012
Lakota wrote:
<quoted text>
The government of your ancestors did.
That's not my fault and I do not have to pay for their mistakes. And my ancestors came to this land long after all of that took place.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#58 Dec 11, 2012
Bob Schmahl wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you scalp anyone?
Did your people kill anyone while expanding their range?
Did you have title to the land or just happen to be the current residents?
You lived on reservations for free for how long?
Does your monopoly on gaming produce profits?
Tribes with casinos live in NICE houses, correct?
Do the tribes with VERY profitable metro casinos share profits with poor outstate tribes?
Do wealthy tribes contribute to poor tribes or does the State fund their lives?
Your people have a lifelong monopoly on gambleing with no termination BUT our Government is not forced to provide access to any casino. Scott County was able to get road funding to improve a road leading to a casino by informing the tribe they would install a toll gate on the road if the tribe didn't provide needed funding.
The tribe provided the needed funds, funny how that works.
Toll gates could be installed on every casino road.
They did the same thing in Tunica, Mississippi. The tribal run casinos refused to pay for maintenance on the roads leading to their casinos and resorts so the county officials, all a bunch of "good ol boys", stopped fixing them. When the customer base started complaining, suddenly the casinos wanted the roads fixed. Their refusal to pay any taxes ended up costing them a considerable amount of money. Which was still a tiny dent in their revenue stream.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#59 Dec 11, 2012
Lakota wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you ask such ridiculous questions and make such slanderous accusations? We have a good relationship with Scott County and at no time did the county threaten to place a toll road anywhere.
The Lakota see stewardship over land to be more appropriate than ownership. The white man took our land without just compensation and reneged on the pittance offered.
We are still a sovereign nation.
Apparently not sovereign enough to stop taking boatloads of money from all of the old white folks or partnering with the major casino chains.
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#60 Dec 11, 2012
Lakota wrote:
<quoted text>
Canterbury Park has entered into an agreement to not seek slot machines.
Yes, I understand that. They were bought off and I do not blame them because the DFL is in the pockets of the Indians. I don't blame the Indians by the way, that's how the game works.
Wade Gustafson

Saint Paul, MN

#61 Dec 11, 2012
Bob Schmahl wrote:
<quoted text>
Start by taxing casino profits. There are many options for taxing casinos.
If you are referring to taxing Indian casino profits in Minnesota, then you are wrong. There is no legal provision for that without the agreement by the Indians.

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