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Doug Kelley-Kid Cann/Carl Pohlad's man on the inside

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Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#1 May 26, 2009
It's amazing that authorities can liquidate assets and disburse the proceeds before Petters get's his day in court. There has been no determination of guilt and yet the vultures are feasting on the carcass.

The point man in this illegal distribution is attorney Doug Kelley. Doug Kelley married into the late Carl Pohlads organized crime family (Pohlad took over organized crime in the Twin Cities with his buyout of the RTC in 1960 from Kid Cann and associates), when he married the ex wife of one of Pohlads sons.

This is all very amazing and it's happening under the nose of sleepy Minnesotans who have tolerated organized crime since the days of Kid Cann and prohibition.

Petters is the most unlikely of masterminds in this billion dollar ponzi scheme. The current circus going on has nothing to do with getting at the real culprits, who likely created Petters World Wide as a giant money laundering apparatus.

http://www.startribune.com/business/44420182....
The properties and the accounts are under the control of court-appointed receiver Doug Kelley, who is collecting and selling corporate and personal assets of Petters and his associates in the alleged investment fraud. Many of Petters' corporate enterprises are tied up in bankruptcy court, where Kelley also is the trustee.
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#2 May 26, 2009
Nice to see that you started a new forum. Maybe Andy Deikel can keep talking with himself. What a piece of work that idiot is.
Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#3 May 26, 2009
WhatEver wrote:
Nice to see that you started a new forum. Maybe Andy Deikel can keep talking with himself. What a piece of work that idiot is.
What is your take on this case?

By the time the trial starts there will be no assets remaining under the Petters Group.

There will be no evidence, no forensic accountants going over the cash flows, nothing.

Dumb, dumb Petters will be left holding an empty bag. He'll get tried by Kid Cann DFL operatives like Mike Hatch and other insider that cater to organized crime.

And Minnesotans will cheer the lynching, those fools.
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#4 May 26, 2009
The whole case is fraud. Doug Kelley was hired by Tom Petters. Kelley made the statement in this article that the Petters' companies will come first, then the creditors. How can he be appointed the Receiver, then the trustee. Laser is on top of all this, but because we are dealing with organized crime nothing is being done by the law. Just like Frank Venness, what is the hold up there?
http://www.startribune.com/local/30470249.htm...
Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#5 May 26, 2009
WhatEver wrote:
The whole case is fraud. Doug Kelley was hired by Tom Petters. Kelley made the statement in this article that the Petters' companies will come first, then the creditors. How can he be appointed the Receiver, then the trustee. Laser is on top of all this, but because we are dealing with organized crime nothing is being done by the law. Just like Frank Venness, what is the hold up there?
http://www.startribune.com/local/30470249.htm...
I really question the assumption that Tom Petters hired Kelley. My point is Petters likely did not even run this so called company.

Here's a quote from the article you linked.

Doug Kelley, the attorney retained by Petters Group to assemble a new management team to run the company, said he questioned the validity of the Illinois court order.

I dont see Petters creating this monster. I do however see him getting carried away with all the strappings of fame and wealth. A perfect sucker and fall guy.

Those who put this together always knew it had a pre determined shelf life. Petters was the perfect Lee Harvey Oswald.
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#6 May 27, 2009
Abe Kid Twist Reles wrote:
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I really question the assumption that Tom Petters hired Kelley. My point is Petters likely did not even run this so called company.
Here's a quote from the article you linked.
Doug Kelley, the attorney retained by Petters Group to assemble a new management team to run the company, said he questioned the validity of the Illinois court order.
I dont see Petters creating this monster. I do however see him getting carried away with all the strappings of fame and wealth. A perfect sucker and fall guy.
Those who put this together always knew it had a pre determined shelf life. Petters was the perfect Lee Harvey Oswald.
I agree with you. My point is that Petters was TOLD to hire Kelley. I know Petters was not the one that caused this monster. He is a pawn. But the organized crime and connections with the government are the ones pulling the strings here. All the illegal doings in the Banckruptcy Court. That is my point.
Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#7 May 27, 2009
WhatEver wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you. My point is that Petters was TOLD to hire Kelley. I know Petters was not the one that caused this monster. He is a pawn. But the organized crime and connections with the government are the ones pulling the strings here. All the illegal doings in the Banckruptcy Court. That is my point.
Petters was TOLD to do everything that he did do. If you want to get a glimpse into Petters career then go make and read a "puff piece" from 2007 titled "Most Memorable" character.

Petters relates the story of his financial connection with an old Jewish Shylock from North Mineapolis named Nisson Mandel. It couldnt be more clear that Petters had long been on the string of these "shylocks". I would never reveal this story had I been Tom Petters.

The guy is an idiot.
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#10 May 28, 2009
I know what is going on, organized crime. I am just playing with Andy and his multiple personalities. My views have not changed. I am with you on this issue.
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#12 May 29, 2009
Abe Kid, are you here? Let me know.
Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#13 May 29, 2009
WhatEver wrote:
Abe Kid, are you here? Let me know.
Yes
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#14 May 29, 2009
It won't take long for the others to find this forum. Surprised they haven't found it yet. I think the person who claims to be from Waterloo is Alibi. I could be wrong. I do know alibi's name, but don't know if I should share it with you here.
Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#15 May 29, 2009
WhatEver wrote:
It won't take long for the others to find this forum. Surprised they haven't found it yet. I think the person who claims to be from Waterloo is Alibi. I could be wrong. I do know alibi's name, but don't know if I should share it with you here.
No I dont want you to share that with me.

Here's the thing I find so strange.

You have this group of people posting "inside information" but they go nuts when ever anyone suggest Petters is not alone in this. Why is that?

They reveal all kinds of slimy behavior by various people around this scandal. But if you suggest it took more brains, money, influence, and planning than Tom Petters is capable they just go nuts.

You got me because I can't figure out why they react this way.

This scandal is listed at $3.5 billion and it's likely more. But they all seem to think one guy pulled this off. He would have died of a heart attack long ago had he been running this on his own.

He required a degree of political power for instance that extends well beyond him.

Any thoughts?
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#16 May 30, 2009
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#17 May 30, 2009
I agree with you. It would take a genius to be able to keep a handle on all this. Well we know Andy is covering for his Father. FV, I can't figure out what is going on there. But as you know, there are a lot of people in this world that have their heads buried in the sand. Alibi and Gren claimed they both worked at RedTag. They said they figured out real early what was going on. Gren even admitted in a posting that she typed many of those promissory notes. Of course, she was doing what she was told to do.
Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#18 May 30, 2009
WhatEver wrote:
I agree with you. It would take a genius to be able to keep a handle on all this. Well we know Andy is covering for his Father. FV, I can't figure out what is going on there. But as you know, there are a lot of people in this world that have their heads buried in the sand. Alibi and Gren claimed they both worked at RedTag. They said they figured out real early what was going on. Gren even admitted in a posting that she typed many of those promissory notes. Of course, she was doing what she was told to do.
But nobody needs to cover up for anyone especially on a message board. You could have someone show up and lay the entire scheme out from A to Z and nothing would happen.

Everyone in authority knows Michelle Bachman for example is nuttier than a fruitcake and yet no one does anything.

Nothing is gonna happen in this case that didnt happen in the Madoff case. It has already been forgotten.

But it is interesting to watch these posters come swooping in in what seems like a group attack.
WhatEver

Phoenix, AZ

#19 May 30, 2009
They are just miserable souls. Ballonguy aka Balls, claims to be a friend of Bob White. He was at his wedding. So I would think that Andy was there too. These people have driven away many people who are interested in this case. I don't know Tom Petters personally but I do know Jay Salmen. He is a bankruptcy attorney in Mpls. He is CEO of Petters Aviation. Salmen is a crook. He is a business partner with my ex-inlaws. He represented them in their business bankruptcy and while in bankruptcy, starts a business with them. I saw first hand, money laundering, hiding assets. I just could not believe it. My ex's family think the world of Salmen, he made them rich. When Petters took over Sun Country, that is when Tom Petters' name came into the picture. Did you go to the website I gave you? She wrote a comment about her father.
Abe Kid Twist Reles

Minneapolis, MN

#20 May 30, 2009
WhatEver wrote:
They are just miserable souls. Ballonguy aka Balls, claims to be a friend of Bob White. He was at his wedding. So I would think that Andy was there too. These people have driven away many people who are interested in this case. I don't know Tom Petters personally but I do know Jay Salmen. He is a bankruptcy attorney in Mpls. He is CEO of Petters Aviation. Salmen is a crook. He is a business partner with my ex-inlaws. He represented them in their business bankruptcy and while in bankruptcy, starts a business with them. I saw first hand, money laundering, hiding assets. I just could not believe it. My ex's family think the world of Salmen, he made them rich. When Petters took over Sun Country, that is when Tom Petters' name came into the picture. Did you go to the website I gave you? She wrote a comment about her father.
So none of these people really know anything either? Can you imagine a thread on a message board reaching over 8,000 posts? I got about 700 of them, trying to drive the captain insane. But I am about finished with it. Never intended to post a single word.

Yes I looked at the website you provided. That's really too bad.

Back in 1994 I received a pamphlet from some guy campaiging for MN Attorney General against Skip Humphrey. It was called "Pink Paper"- "Are Minnseota Dems the most corrupt in the nation"? It was something like that.

It went through this entire organized crime apparatus in Minnesota from Kid Cann/ Floyd Olson to Orville Freeman/ Hubert Humphrey.

It was an explosive expose of organized crime's control of Minnesota politics.

I see you too have personal experience with the players in the Petters scandal.
Are You For Real

Phoenix, AZ

#21 Jul 28, 2009
let me think about this.
CarlsaPollack

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Jul 28, 2009
Are You For Real wrote:
let me think about this.
Please do, and dont forget, "Liberties in Paste" let's keep it alive.
Are You For Real

Phoenix, AZ

#23 Jul 28, 2009
WhatEver you say Crappy! You know who alibi is! Just google RedTag.

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