Pelosi: Taxes must go up for wealthy

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Amused Slew

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Smart Liberal wrote:
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Hey dipsh*t, if you think you are worth more money, get a job that pays you more money. Can't get a job that pays you more? Then improve your skill set so that you can get a higher paying job.
Otherwise, shut your mouth and say "thank you" to the person that gives you a paycheck each week.
Or better yet...start your own business and show the rest of the world what a benevolent employer pays his/her employees.
Ps- Your clue was THEM !! Esl classes full of your loser kids ???
Amused Slew

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Smart Liberal wrote:
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Hey dipsh*t, if you think you are worth more money, get a job that pays you more money. Can't get a job that pays you more? Then improve your skill set so that you can get a higher paying job.
Otherwise, shut your mouth and say "thank you" to the person that gives you a paycheck each week.
Or better yet...start your own business and show the rest of the world what a benevolent employer pays his/her employees.
Did you miss the word THEM, in your drunken stupor ??? Try harder... you can't insult a man, who DOESN'T own a Corvair ! LMAOROTFU~!
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Bridgework Lies wrote:
I'd be happy if the rich paid the same tax rates as in the 1950's, 1960's or 1970's.
You have no moral compass, so who are you to judge what is fair?

http://taxfoundation.org/blog/tax-burden-top-...

"Some in Washington say the tax system is still not progressive enough. However, the recent IRS data bolsters the findings of an OECD study released last year showing that the U.S.—not France or Sweden—has the most progressive income tax system among OECD nations. We rely more heavily on the top 10 percent of taxpayers than does any nation and our poor people have the lowest tax burden of those in any nation."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/09/26/get...

Top 10% earns 42% of income but pays 50% of FIC and payroll taxes (they then try to say that 10% paying 50% is not a fair share even though the numbers say otherwise).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/...

CBO: top 20% pays 70% of all taxes and their percent of taxes paid has increased since 2007.

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Nov 19, 2012
 
Bridgework wrote:
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You have no moral compass, so who are you to judge what is fair?
http://taxfoundation.org/blog/tax-burden-top-...
"Some in Washington say the tax system is still not progressive enough. However, the recent IRS data bolsters the findings of an OECD study released last year showing that the U.S.—not France or Sweden—has the most progressive income tax system among OECD nations. We rely more heavily on the top 10 percent of taxpayers than does any nation and our poor people have the lowest tax burden of those in any nation."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/09/26/get...
Top 10% earns 42% of income but pays 50% of FIC and payroll taxes (they then try to say that 10% paying 50% is not a fair share even though the numbers say otherwise).
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/...
CBO: top 20% pays 70% of all taxes and their percent of taxes paid has increased since 2007.
Excellent information Bridge which no doubt Slewpid will choose to ignore while flinging insults and innuendo around.

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Nov 19, 2012
 
"Hey TrashyLiar, If you'd made the dojo, you could have seen my portfolio...."

If Slewpid people won't show up at an airport for a handshake and a $100.00 bill, why would they show up at an imaginary dojo, to fight a stranger, while carrying a portfolio?

It brings to mind something else the Slewpid have been known to say:

"Seattle Slew wrote:
"...as a proven liar and a weird obsessive, I can't put any stock in it."

Oh, and this as well:

"Seattle Slew wrote:
"Be a SHAME to just post irrelevance and insults,"
Trashy Slew

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Amused Slew wrote:
Hey TrashyLiar, If you'd made the dojo, you could have seen my portfolio.... Since you're a moron, this is as important, as a 4 door Corvair...Please try harder, LOSER !! LMAOROTFU~!
LOL!!!! Slew's "dojo:" a tent in his mother's back yard in St, Paul, Slew's "portfolio:" A couple of loser lotto tickets, a business card with his bookie's phone number, and a post-note with "make money at home" web address. LMAOROTFU at you!!!
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Nov 19, 2012
 
"Taxing the wealthy" is a straw man. If the U.S. government confiscated the top 1% entire assests it would not be enought to get us out of the financial mess we are in.
The Truth

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We need a return to tax levels of the 1950's, 1960's and 1970's for the welathiest Americans.

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The Truth wrote:
We need a return to tax levels of the 1950's, 1960's and 1970's for the welathiest Americans.
Keep letting others pay your way, moocher.

51% of US Households pay nothing in Federal Income Taxes. When are those people going to pay their Fair Share?
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We need a return to tax levels of the 1950's, 1960's and 1970's for the wealthiest Americans.

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The Truth wrote:
We need a return to tax levels of the 1950's, 1960's and 1970's for the wealthiest Americans.
Why won't you just answer the question? When will everyone pay their Fair Share?

Obviously, 51% of households are not paying their fair share now.
Amused Slew

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Why would you care, you claim to support charities, were you lying ??? As for "fair share", I'm all for capital gains tax rate equality, I suppose YOU MUST BE ! LMAOROTFU~!
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Smart Liberal wrote:
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Why won't you just answer the question? When will everyone pay their Fair Share?
Obviously, 51% of households are not paying their fair share now.
Completely untrue. Your 51% ARE paying their fair share of taxes now.
The Truth

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Another Way of Looking at Who Pays No Federal Income Tax

A separate TPC analysis categorized people who do not owe federal income tax in 2011 in a different way.* It found that of the filers who don’t owe federal income tax for 2011:

50 percent are in this category because their incomes are so low that they are less than the sum of the standard deduction and personal and dependent exemptions for which the household qualifies. As TPC Senior Fellow Roberton Williams has noted,“the basic structure of the income tax simply exempts subsistence levels of income from tax.”** Some 62 percent of the households who will owe no federal income tax in 2011 have incomes under $20,000.

Another 22 percent do not owe federal income tax because they are elderly people who benefit from tax provisions to aid senior citizens, such as the exemption of Social Security benefits from income tax for beneficiaries who have incomes below $25,000 for single filers and $32,000 for joint filers and the higher standard deduction for the elderly.

Another 15 percent (of the households who don’t owe federal income tax) don’t owe the tax because they are low-income working families with children who qualify for the child tax credit, the child and dependent care tax credit, and/or the earned income tax credit, and the credit(s) eliminate their income tax liability.***

* Rachel Johnson, James Nunns, Jeffrey Rohaly, Eric Toder, and Roberton Williams,“Why Some Tax Units Pay No Income Tax”, Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, July 2011; and Roberton Williams,“Why Do people Pay No Federal Income Tax” TPC TaxVox, July 27, 2011. For a further discussion of this TPC analysis, see Aviva Aron-Dine,“Trends”, Milken Institute Review, First Quarter 2012, pp. 5-11.

** Roberton Williams,“Why Do People Pay No Federal Income Tax?”, TPC TaxVox, July 27, 2011
*** The remainder of those who do not owe federal income tax, about 13 percent, don’t owe federal income tax because of itemized deductions or other tax benefits.
The Truth

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So let's look at Smart Liberal's assinine idea.

62% of the the households who will owe no federal income tax in 2011 have incomes under $20,000. The average household is about 2.5 people. Smart Liberal wants people that live on under $8000 per year and already pay a lot of that $8000 in other taxes (payroll, Social Security, sales tax, gas tax, phone tax, and many more) to pay MORE in taxes!

What an assinine suggestion! These people don't earn enough to provide food, clothing, shelter, and health care for themselves and Smart Liberal wants them to pay more in taxes!

Well happ effing Thanksgiving to you, too, Smart Liberal!

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The Truth wrote:
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Completely untrue. Your 51% ARE paying their fair share of taxes now.
51% pay nothing in Federal Income Taxes. Everyone needs to pay their fair share. Until everyone who earns income pays something, you don't have an case to argue.

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The Truth wrote:
So let's look at Smart Liberal's assinine idea.
62% of the the households who will owe no federal income tax in 2011 have incomes under $20,000. The average household is about 2.5 people. Smart Liberal wants people that live on under $8000 per year and already pay a lot of that $8000 in other taxes (payroll, Social Security, sales tax, gas tax, phone tax, and many more) to pay MORE in taxes!
What an assinine suggestion! These people don't earn enough to provide food, clothing, shelter, and health care for themselves and Smart Liberal wants them to pay more in taxes!
Well happ effing Thanksgiving to you, too, Smart Liberal!
If you earn any income, you have an obligation to support this great nation that you live in.

Your lack of income will be, as often as not, from poor choices you made during your lifetime. That is your problem not mine.

And Happy effing Thanksgiving to you too.
The Truth

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Smart Liberal wrote:
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51% pay nothing in Federal Income Taxes. Everyone needs to pay their fair share. Until everyone who earns income pays something, you don't have an case to argue.
Wrong. People who earn less than a certain threshold have never had to pay Federal income taxes and we aren't about to change that now.

People that earn the highest incomes need to pony up and start paying their share again.

The majority of Americans agree with this - you lose.

Just like you lost two weeks ago. All your whining about skewed polls and oversampling Democrats turned out to be lies, just like I told you.

America spoke, and the rich need to start paying their fair share again.

So suck on that one, azzwipe.
Amused Slew

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All that rhetoric and not a word of support ?? Poor TrashyLiar, Hertz, huh ???

Try harder... YOU can't insult a man, who DOESN'T own a Corvair ! LMAOROTFU~!

62% of the the households who will owe no federal income tax in 2011 have incomes under $20,000. The average household is about 2.5 people. Smart Liberal wants people that live on under $8000 per year and already pay a lot of that $8000 in other taxes (payroll, Social Security, sales tax, gas tax, phone tax, and many more) to pay MORE in taxes!
What an assinine suggestion! These people don't earn enough to provide food, clothing, shelter, and health care for themselves and Smart Liberal wants them to pay more in taxes!

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

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The Truth wrote:
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Wrong. People who earn less than a certain threshold have never had to pay Federal income taxes and we aren't about to change that now.
People that earn the highest incomes need to pony up and start paying their share again.
The majority of Americans agree with this - you lose.
Just like you lost two weeks ago. All your whining about skewed polls and oversampling Democrats turned out to be lies, just like I told you.
America spoke, and the rich need to start paying their fair share again.
So suck on that one, azzwipe.
Look at the tax tables numb nuts. They say if you earn income, you owe taxes.

The top 5% of earners take home 34% of the AGI. Yet they pay 59% of all Income Taxes. That is almost double their fair share.

Only when all income earners pay something to support this country, then you might have a basis for talking tax adjustments. Until then, you have nothing.

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