Hate-filled, racist Republican vision of America crumbled last Tuesday

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Consistent

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Nov 13, 2012
Remember how Republican candidates this past election lauded the Real Americans they'd meet in some podunk Republican stronghold? Remember how this implied that all of us Americans who live on the West Coast or in cities or in the North East of the US weren't Real Americans?
I found this tweet from Minnesotans for Marriage campaign manager Andy Parrish interesting:

Andy Parrish @AndyParrishMN
#voteyes for marriage won in 74/87 counties in Minnesota #StribPol #mnleg
8 Nov 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite

This fits the Fox News Republican Tea Party narrative that only the God-fearing, immigrant hating, gay hating, Obama haters are real Americans. The demographic problem with this narrative is a majority of Americans now live in metropolitan areas.
But I think Parrish's quip get to something deeper. The racist, hate-filled right wing vision of his America was mostly destroyed last Tuesday. Gay Marriage is the law in 3 more states. Obama won despite a weak economy and the bazillions of dollars spent by SuperPACs to buy this election for Mitt Romney. A diarist at Daily Kos nailed it>:

The Big E :: Hate-filled, racist Republican vision of America crumbled last Tuesday
Let me share this brief back and forth I had today in one of the forums I frequent, with a severely conservative, Christian man I assume from the context of previous postings, to be in the 50-60 year old range. Let's call him Bob and it all started with this question:

Bob - Is it America voting for President, or immigrants? Are immigrants really American, or just trying to be American?
Vent - America is immigrants. Without immigrants, there is no America, there are no Founding Fathers, there is no Constitution. Nuff said!

Bob - Obviously the exemplary argument.

Vent - Sorry if you hate what America is but those are the facts. The only "real" American's are Native Americans. Everyone else is either an immigrant, a descendent of immigrants or a descendent of slavery.

Bob - It looks like you are the one that hates America for what it is, or was, or whatever. There is evidence that white people were in America prior to the "Native" Americans. The cave in Utah had tall red headed people in them, killed by "Natives". The magical land bridge the "Natives" crossed from Russia, into Alaska, and etc....

At this point I realized we'd run out of tin foil on aisle 4 and as I walked away from the computer I laughed thinking, "this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard." But then my laughter turned to confusion and then sadness as I began to process what he was really trying to say to me. I obviously understood he was in mourning over the loss but as I dwelled on this brief exchange, I began to realize that it's about much more than his candidate simply not winning and far beyond any political party. This was much deeper than all of that.

What Bob had really lost in this election was his vision of America. The vision that had been preserved since before he was born and the vision he grew up fighting to preserve. Now, we're not talking about a "Romney" vision of America where it's about making the rich, richer with more trickle down economics. No, he was talking about an America of, by and for white people. With the re-election of Barack Obama, he saw his vision of America crumble for good and it's the same vision that all of conservatism saw crumble.

The depths of depression and soul searching going on in the GOP is rooted in that thinking. For them it's the same. It's not just losing an election. This election was special. This election was for all the marbles but not because they want to cut spending or balance the budget for fear of rising debt. No, that's just a smoke screen for the agenda that has survived for way to long.
[my emphasis]
goose

Chicago, IL

#2 Nov 13, 2012
More liberal B.S. about what they think conservatives are!
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#3 Nov 13, 2012
Well, you sure can't believe the cons, just last week their "polls" predicted a RawMoney win... THAT'S JUST STUPID, right ??? LMAOROTFU~!
DSM Local

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Nov 14, 2012
Why do wingnuts hate so much?

Since: Oct 08

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#5 Nov 14, 2012
The middle class voted themselves the biggest kick in the pants and smiled about it all night on last Tuesday. They failed to understand the definition of insanity, you can't keep doing the same thing over and over again, and expect the results to be different. For 4 years all we heard of was, tax the rich, take from the rich, the universal battle cry of the liberals, but, for 2 years when there were no obstacles, instead of passing laws to affect such a change, they passed a huge social issue bill that took care of 30 million uninsured Americans, but ignored 23 million unemployed and 49 million on foodstamps. The middle class will aborb the giants share of the tax increases this Administration pushes downhill. They keep believing this guy has the answers dispite the 4 previous years of failure!!
Conservatives unite

United States

#6 Nov 14, 2012
DSM Local wrote:
Why do wingnuts hate so much?
let's see ?

it is called socialism, just take a good look at your pay check and watch how your leader is spending your money. Simple truth it is NOT fair that someone who goes to work and earns a living should be penalized and told how and whom gets his financial support. Remember we still have freedom of speech, and the 58 million that do not like the direction this country is going can and will speak out.

what a stupid line ( let me phrase it for you )

Hate-filled, racist Liberal vision of Americakicked off last Tuesday .
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#7 Nov 14, 2012
Niether of the Above wrote:
The middle class voted themselves the biggest kick in the pants and smiled about it all night on last Tuesday. They failed to understand the definition of insanity, you can't keep doing the same thing over and over again, and expect the results to be different. For 4 years all we heard of was, tax the rich, take from the rich, the universal battle cry of the liberals, but, for 2 years when there were no obstacles, instead of passing laws to affect such a change, they passed a huge social issue bill that took care of 30 million uninsured Americans, but ignored 23 million unemployed and 49 million on foodstamps. The middle class will aborb the giants share of the tax increases this Administration pushes downhill. They keep believing this guy has the answers dispite the 4 previous years of failure!!
Actually middle class voted for Romney.
The Truth

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Nov 14, 2012
Bridgework wrote:
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Actually middle class voted for Romney.
That is not true. Please quote your source on this.

You wanted an example of a lie made by you. Here's one.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#9 Nov 14, 2012
Nailed the little liar, good work ...Slew ??? LMAOROTFU~!
CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#10 Nov 14, 2012
What does Kim Karblackassidan have to say about this?
Is Oprah down wit dis? How about Jay Blue Ivy Z?
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#11 Nov 14, 2012
Pretty sure...you'd run from Kim, chicken...
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#12 Nov 15, 2012
The Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not true. Please quote your source on this.
You wanted an example of a lie made by you. Here's one.
All major middle class demographics were won by Romney. Unless you are saying that Romney did not win the white males, married women, and older voters?

So that is actually you lying unless you can provide proof that the middle class voted Obama.
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#13 Nov 15, 2012
Romney won the middle class vote by 6 points. Slew Jumbo wants people to think Obama won the middle class. He is even going as far to call me a liar for pointing this out.

P.S. It was a shame that middle class apathy was so high this year.
Amused SLew

Seattle, WA

#14 Nov 15, 2012
Nope, you said the middle class voted for Romney, you're the liar... but we knew that.. LMAOROTFU~!
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#15 Nov 15, 2012
Amused SLew wrote:
Nope, you said the middle class voted for Romney, you're the liar... but we knew that.. LMAOROTFU~!
Romney won the middle class vote by 6 points.
Amused SLew

Seattle, WA

#16 Nov 15, 2012
Funny, I don't see proof... Poor child, you caught TrashyLiar virus, I warned you it's contagious.... LMAOROTFU~!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#17 Nov 15, 2012
Once again I must point out that no matter what proof is provided to the terminally slewpid one, it will be summarily rejected as any kind of proof that he/she accepted would just place he/she one step lower on the credibility scale. If that's possible.

Sad creature. Gollum!!
Bob of Many Names

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Nov 15, 2012
Bridgework wrote:
<quoted text>
Romney won the middle class vote by 6 points.
I'm still not seeing any proof. Are you conceding that you lied and made this up then?
Bridgework

Lincoln, NE

#19 Nov 15, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
Once again I must point out that no matter what proof is provided to the terminally slewpid one, it will be summarily rejected as any kind of proof that he/she accepted would just place he/she one step lower on the credibility scale. If that's possible.
Sad creature. Gollum!!
I am thinking he is too stupid to realize that the proof is in the same location as the information about minorities, young, and single women voting for Obama. He has no problem quoting those numbers, but need "proof" regarding the others?
Bob of Many Names

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Nov 15, 2012
Bridgework wrote:
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I am thinking he is too stupid to realize that the proof is in the same location as the information about minorities, young, and single women voting for Obama. He has no problem quoting those numbers, but need "proof" regarding the others?
I can find those stats. I cannot find stats about middle class voters. Seeing you are unable to offer proof, my conclusion is that you are lying.

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