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Hitler was not a leftist

National Socialism had nothing to do with what we term Socialism.

Hitler was a Fascist. National Socialism was/is a Fascist, extreme Right ideology.

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Nazism used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture which fought against the communists in post-World War I Germany. It was designed to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism. Major elements of Nazism have been described as far-right, such as allowing domination of society by people deemed racially superior, while purging society of people declared inferior which were said to be a threat to national survival.



This has NOTHING to do with any gun stuff, but I just read a post made today stating that yes, Hitler was a Leftist. It was not connected to a gun OP in any way.

That is BS. Anyone who says that either really needs to study up on Nazi (even just watch the Military History Channel or read Wikipedia), or they have an agenda.

Hitler was the First Teabagger. Got that? He was extreme Right. All current Nazis also are.
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Hitler was a huge supporter of unions. Barry Obama owes his Presidency to unions.

"I think that I have already answered the first question adequately. In the present state of affairs I am convinced that we cannot possibly dispense with the trades unions. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions in the economic life of the nation. Not only are they important in the sphere of social policy but also, and even more so, in the national political sphere. For when the great masses of a nation see their vital needs satisfied through a just trade unionist movement the stamina of the whole nation in its struggle for existence will be enormously reinforced thereby." - Adolph Hitler

Hitler took away guns. Barry Obama wants to take away guns just like Hitler did.
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Another Hitler quote:

"Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations."

Barry Obama owes his a55 to the support of unions. Barry and Adolph are one and the same.
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The Truth wrote:
Another Hitler quote:
"Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations."
Barry Obama owes his a55 to the support of unions. Barry and Adolph are one and the same.
From Wikipedia:

Fascism recognizes the occurrence of class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.[8] However fascism publicly favours proletarian culture while it rejects bourgeois culture, due to its association of proletarian culture with economic production and claims that proletarians as producers must have a dominant role in the nation.[9] Fascism claims that cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into a proletarian nation.[8]

Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[10] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests

I don't know what the Urban dictionary says about fascism, but I suppose as soon as Slew Jumbo sees this post we will find out.
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The Truth wrote:
Hitler was a huge supporter of unions. Barry Obama owes his Presidency to unions.
"I think that I have already answered the first question adequately. In the present state of affairs I am convinced that we cannot possibly dispense with the trades unions. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions in the economic life of the nation. Not only are they important in the sphere of social policy but also, and even more so, in the national political sphere. For when the great masses of a nation see their vital needs satisfied through a just trade unionist movement the stamina of the whole nation in its struggle for existence will be enormously reinforced thereby." - Adolph Hitler
Hitler took away guns. Barry Obama wants to take away guns just like Hitler did.
You have no clue about history. Hitler was very anti-unionn and quashed all socialist movements in Germany.

Hitler did not disarm his citizens. He had to reason to.
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Consistent wrote:
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You have no clue about history. Hitler was very anti-unionn and quashed all socialist movements in Germany.
Hitler did not disarm his citizens. He had to reason to.
Did you even read what Hitler said about unions? His words:

"Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations."

What in that quote says Hitler was anti-union? Stop making shit up.
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The Truth wrote:
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Did you even read what Hitler said about unions? His words:
"Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations."
What in that quote says Hitler was anti-union? Stop making shit up.
Notice no link to good information from Slew Jumbo, just divert and deny tactics as usual.
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<quoted text>Notice no link to good information from Slew Jumbo, just divert and deny tactics as usual.
Facts are not friendly towards Slew/Dumbo.
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The Truth wrote:
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Did you even read what Hitler said about unions? His words:
"Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations."
What in that quote says Hitler was anti-union? Stop making shit up.
I don't know what your source is, but it is wrong.

The truth:

Trade Unions and Nazi Germany

When Hitler came to power in January 1933, he saw trade unions as exercising more power over the workers than he could. Therefore, trade unions were seen as a challenge to be dispensed with. Hitler knew that he needed the workers to be on his side but he could not allow trade unions to exert the potential power they had. Therefore, trade unions were banned in Nazi Germany and the state took over the role of looking after the working class.





Just months after Hitler was appointed Chancellor, he took the decision to end trade unions in Nazi Germany. On May 2nd, 1933, police units occupied all trade unions headquarters and union officials and leaders were arrested. The funds that belonged to the trade unions – effectively this was workers money – were confiscated. However, Hitler had to be careful. He had only been in power for a few months and there were many members of the working class he had to deal with. If the working class movement in Germany organised itself, it would have presented the new Chancellor with a lot of major issues that would have to be dealt with. Removing trade union leaders helped this but it did not fully guarantee that the working class would ‘behave’ itself. Hitler had to offer the workers something more. Hitler announced that the German Labour Force, headed by Robert Ley, would replace all trade unions and would look after the working class. The title was chosen carefully. The new organisation was deliberately cloaked in patriotism, as it was now a German entity as was seen in its title. The working class was now a ‘labour force’. The Nazi Party did all that it could to ensure the workers felt that they were better off under the guidance of the Nazi Party via the German Labour Front.


http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/trade_un...
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I don't know what your source is, but it is wrong.
The truth:
Trade Unions and Nazi Germany
When Hitler came to power in January 1933, he saw trade unions as exercising more power over the workers than he could. Therefore, trade unions were seen as a challenge to be dispensed with. Hitler knew that he needed the workers to be on his side but he could not allow trade unions to exert the potential power they had. Therefore, trade unions were banned in Nazi Germany and the state took over the role of looking after the working class.
Just months after Hitler was appointed Chancellor, he took the decision to end trade unions in Nazi Germany. On May 2nd, 1933, police units occupied all trade unions headquarters and union officials and leaders were arrested. The funds that belonged to the trade unions – effectively this was workers money – were confiscated. However, Hitler had to be careful. He had only been in power for a few months and there were many members of the working class he had to deal with. If the working class movement in Germany organised itself, it would have presented the new Chancellor with a lot of major issues that would have to be dealt with. Removing trade union leaders helped this but it did not fully guarantee that the working class would ‘behave’ itself. Hitler had to offer the workers something more. Hitler announced that the German Labour Force, headed by Robert Ley, would replace all trade unions and would look after the working class. The title was chosen carefully. The new organisation was deliberately cloaked in patriotism, as it was now a German entity as was seen in its title. The working class was now a ‘labour force’. The Nazi Party did all that it could to ensure the workers felt that they were better off under the guidance of the Nazi Party via the German Labour Front.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/trade_un...
From Wikipedia on fascism:

Fascism recognizes the occurrence of class conflict, and advocates a resolution to end the division of classes within a nation and secure national solidarity.[8] However fascism publicly favours proletarian culture while it rejects bourgeois culture, due to its association of proletarian culture with economic production and claims that proletarians as producers must have a dominant role in the nation.[9] Fascism claims that cultural nationalization of society emancipates the nation's proletariat, and promotes the assimilation of all classes into a proletarian nation.[8]

Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve autarky to secure national self-sufficiency and independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[10] It promotes regulated private enterprise and private property contingent whenever beneficial to the nation and state enterprise and state property whenever necessary to protect its interests.

In the first paragraph, just substitute "unions" for "proletariat", and you have the Democratic party's platform.
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Hitler was not a leftist
National Socialism had nothing to do with what we term Socialism.
Hitler was a Fascist. National Socialism was/is a Fascist, extreme Right ideology.
Very briefly, and very simplistically:
Nazism used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture which fought against the communists in post-World War I Germany. It was designed to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism. Major elements of Nazism have been described as far-right, such as allowing domination of society by people deemed racially superior, while purging society of people declared inferior which were said to be a threat to national survival.
This has NOTHING to do with any gun stuff, but I just read a post made today stating that yes, Hitler was a Leftist. It was not connected to a gun OP in any way.
That is BS. Anyone who says that either really needs to study up on Nazi (even just watch the Military History Channel or read Wikipedia), or they have an agenda.
Hitler was the First Teabagger. Got that? He was extreme Right. All current Nazis also are.
Who is full of BS and has an agenda again? The pot calling the kettle black?
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Who is full of BS and has an agenda again? The pot calling the kettle black?
His "source" for the original post is a comment left on an exrtreme Leftist blog. The author of that comment is some anyonomous poster named "obamanut2012" with 8,945 comments on that very extreme Leftist blog. Do you think obamabot2012 and our fake Consistent might have an agenda and lie in order to show that "the ends justify the means"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022182...
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Funny, how readily YOU embrace obvious lies, poor ZERO guy.... LMAOROTFU~!



REWRITING REALITY, again !!???

non-starter wrote: I found it, you just won't publish that you got it off Yahoo or Wiki answers ....

THEN the lies began, LMAOROTFU~!

non-starter wrote: No, I guessed, because you weren't forthcoming with your source

OR MY NEW FAVORITE-

non-starter wrote: I found similar postings on Yahoo answers and Wiki answers

You posted to the urban dictionary to support your position...It's called tampering and you're clearly a duplicitous/dishonest POS... Have a nice lie... Oh sorry, I surely meant life.
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Amused Slew wrote:
Funny, how readily YOU embrace obvious lies, poor ZERO guy.... LMAOROTFU~!
REWRITING REALITY, again !!???
non-starter wrote: I found it, you just won't publish that you got it off Yahoo or Wiki answers ....
THEN the lies began, LMAOROTFU~!
non-starter wrote: No, I guessed, because you weren't forthcoming with your source
OR MY NEW FAVORITE-
non-starter wrote: I found similar postings on Yahoo answers and Wiki answers
You posted to the urban dictionary to support your position...It's called tampering and you're clearly a duplicitous/dishonest POS... Have a nice lie... Oh sorry, I surely meant life.
Retard,

Did you have a comment on the Thread or just your usual "Notice me Slewsie" Playground Activities?
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So aside from being a racist and a bigot you also discriminate against the mentally handicapped by calling others "retards"?

Figures.
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So aside from being a racist and a bigot you also discriminate against the mentally handicapped by calling others "retards"?
Figures.
Hitler was a Collectivist.......Short and to the point.

You Sheeple and your Messiah are Collectivists.....This is not debatable.

You "Folk", and the Son of Communists that Occupy our White House, are Kindred Spirits of The Fuehrer'!

If you do not want to face this awful truth about yourselves, get educated and change.
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Hitler was a Collectivist.......Short and to the point.
You Sheeple and your Messiah are Collectivists.....This is not debatable.
You "Folk", and the Son of Communists that Occupy our White House, are Kindred Spirits of The Fuehrer'!
If you do not want to face this awful truth about yourselves, get educated and change.
No, Hitler was a FASCIST. He was a far RIGHT wing moron, just like you.

So apparently there are TWO "truths" - what most of the world and all the governments and schools believe, and there is also what Consistent believes.

The racist with the 8th grade education.

I think I know who I believe.
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No, Hitler was a FASCIST. He was a far RIGHT wing moron, just like you.
So apparently there are TWO "truths" - what most of the world and all the governments and schools believe, and there is also what Consistent believes.
The racist with the 8th grade education.
I think I know who I believe.
Moderate Fascist,

As a Collectivist Sheeple willingly residing on the Demokrat Plantations, "We the People" do not expect you to be able to "think".

Therefore, when your Messiah collapses it all, we will find Productive Labor for you in a Non-thinking Position at someplace like the Sewage Treatment Plant.
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Oh, now let's posts ANOTHER drunken rant in every thread.

That's called SPAMMING, in case you didn't know.

Have another swig off that bottle of Phillips vodka.
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Oh, now let's posts ANOTHER drunken rant in every thread.
That's called SPAMMING, in case you didn't know.
Have another swig off that bottle of Phillips vodka.
Retard,(Moderate Fascist)
Being retarded is what happened when your Mommy and her Brother had an Unholy Alliance and created you....The only illness is that Mommy was sick for not aborting YOU, her Brothers Child!

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