Teachers union challenges NY's property tax cap

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Jim Dandy

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#64
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bushwhacker wrote:
Forget children ??? Sounds right...
Taxes are a fact of life, when you can't afford the time or cost of posting here, let me know, drama queen.
Didn't say forget children. Slow down slappy.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
According to a new report from the Center on Education Policy, 61 percent of California schools failed to make adequate yearly progress. By comparison, a mere 5 percent of schools in Texas failed to do so.

But the disparities between California and other states actually say little about how well the the Golden State's schools are doing. Instead, they highlight a major deficiency in the law: It requires states to set their own standards for academic proficiency, as well as their own yearly targets, making state-to-state comparisons almost impossible.

"State tests are not comparable, period," said Marshall Smith, former dean of the School of Education at Stanford and senior counselor to Secretary of Education Arne Duncan until last year. "You are a fool if you try to compare them."

Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, D-Santa Monica, chairwoman of the Assembly Education Committee, said, "It is like comparing apples and oranges."

Because each state has its own standards and assessments, it is is also difficult to assess how the nation as a whole is doing on meeting the goals set by the No Child Left Behind law.
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#66
Feb 22, 2013
 
Hey non-sense,

Looks like you're a fool !! Of course, misspelling TEACHER'S was a clue !!!
Jim Dandy

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#67
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bushwhacker wrote:
Cost of living in NY is @20% higher, poor dishonest loser !!!
Cause of the Union bastards and high taxes.
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#68
Feb 22, 2013
 
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Cost of living in NY is @20% higher, poor dishonest loser !!!
Really, 20% statewide, or just in NYC? Please show your data and your work, mr low integrity poster.
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#69
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bushwhacker wrote:
According to a new report from the Center on Education Policy, 61 percent of California schools failed to make adequate yearly progress. By comparison, a mere 5 percent of schools in Texas failed to do so.
But the disparities between California and other states actually say little about how well the the Golden State's schools are doing. Instead, they highlight a major deficiency in the law: It requires states to set their own standards for academic proficiency, as well as their own yearly targets, making state-to-state comparisons almost impossible.
"State tests are not comparable, period," said Marshall Smith, former dean of the School of Education at Stanford and senior counselor to Secretary of Education Arne Duncan until last year. "You are a fool if you try to compare them."
Assemblywoman Julia Brownley, D-Santa Monica, chairwoman of the Assembly Education Committee, said, "It is like comparing apples and oranges."
Because each state has its own standards and assessments, it is is also difficult to assess how the nation as a whole is doing on meeting the goals set by the No Child Left Behind law.
Wow, a quote from a California state body trying to protect its' failure. Wow, powerful stuff. While the 4th grade reading and math proficiency could vary state to state, the ACT is a test that does not vary state to state, and provides a fair analysis. How the rankings were determined is included in my post. The ACT test factored in ranking the states. Please provide something relevant to New York education, the state we are discussing, mr low integrity poster.
Anused Slew

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#71
Feb 22, 2013
 
Hey non-sense,

Sure, you get to choose what's relevant, after YOU MISSPELLED TEACHER'S ~~!!!

Looks like you're a fool !! Of course, misspelling TEACHER'S was a clue !!!
Awful Truth

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#73
Feb 22, 2013
 
non-starter wrote:
Poor teacher's union can't extort more money from the public with a tax cap in place.
great idea let's CAP all taxes ! Stop spending money, a good start will happen on March 1 !
Bushwhacker

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#74
Feb 22, 2013
 
The teacher's union has nothing to win with this battle, it's for the kids.

FROM YOUR POST-

"....in effect the tax cap locks in existing inequalities and has a disproportionate, negative impact on the ability of the lower wealth districts and their voters to provide educational opportunity to school children,...".
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#75
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bushwhacker wrote:
The teacher's union has nothing to win with this battle, it's for the kids.
FROM YOUR POST-
"....in effect the tax cap locks in existing inequalities and has a disproportionate, negative impact on the ability of the lower wealth districts and their voters to provide educational opportunity to school children,...".
From my post that quoted the teachers' union lawsuit. A quote, not a rational quote, not a fact, just an argument lodged by the New York Teacher's union lawyer. So nice of you to play. Next.
Bushwhacker

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#76
Feb 22, 2013
 
It's YOUR posted quote, but you won't accept it ???

Sorry, you just lost...

Take the ball and bat home, moron !!!
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#77
Feb 22, 2013
 
New York has the 16 highest property tax counties in the United States. Taxes were outstripping inflation by a large margin. Andrew Cuomo and the legislature slowed the tax growth. The teachers' union sued because they can't continue to grow their pay and benefits at a rate faster than inflation.

1. Cuomo and the legislature should pass legislation making it illegal for public employee unions to sue the state.

2. The union is overstepping its' charter and authority.

3. Even with the property cap tax, New York is still the highest property tax state in the United States.

4. Total tax burden, New York is number 1.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
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New York has the 16 highest property tax counties in the United States. Taxes were outstripping inflation by a large margin. Andrew Cuomo and the legislature slowed the tax growth. The teachers' union sued because they can't continue to grow their pay and benefits at a rate faster than inflation.
1. Cuomo and the legislature should pass legislation making it illegal for public employee unions to sue the state.
2. The union is overstepping its' charter and authority.
3. Even with the property cap tax, New York is still the highest property tax state in the United States.
4. Total tax burden, New York is number 1.
You want to deny the ability of citizen to sue, comrade ???
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#80
Feb 22, 2013
 
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<quoted text>You want to deny the ability of citizen to sue, comrade ???
Not the citizen, the public unions. If the union's suit is shown to be frivolous, I hope they have to pay the state's cost of defending.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
You want to deny the ability of ANYONE to sue, comrade ???
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#82
Feb 22, 2013
 
The Cuomo administration said the vast majority of local governments and school districts have stayed within the cap when drafting their budgets.

"Governor Cuomo led the fight to pass the tax cap in order to stop skyrocketing property tax increases on homeowners and businesses, and that's exactly what it's done," spokesman Richard Azzopardi said. He called the lawsuit a fiscally irresponsible attempt to undermine progress.
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Hey non-sense,

Sure, you get to choose what's relevant, after YOU MISSPELLED TEACHER'S ~~!!!

Looks like you're a fool !! Of course, misspelling TEACHER'S was a clue !!!

You want to deny the ability of ANYONE to sue, comrade ???
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So, 1 outta every 3 kids in the world is Chinese.

Almost 1/2 of Americans are minorities.

Half of Americans are overweight. Half are male...

USA scores the lowest in national average IQ among the developed countries of the world, at a national average score of 98.

Since TrashyLiar, IrishMN, Fred, Smart Liberal has 4 daughters, we can conclude 2 are dumb, fat, minority males, and the other 2 may be dumb females, although 1 should be deceased, at this time.....

I love teabagger "thinking"....
Bushwhacker

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non-starter wrote:
The Cuomo administration said the vast majority of local governments and school districts have stayed within the cap when drafting their budgets.
"Governor Cuomo led the fight to pass the tax cap in order to stop skyrocketing property tax increases on homeowners and businesses, and that's exactly what it's done," spokesman Richard Azzopardi said. He called the lawsuit a fiscally irresponsible attempt to undermine progress.
These are the poor districts suffering... Of course, you don't care. You hate poor kids... You're a wing nut hypocrite.
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Heck, you're "taking care of kids", while posting here, right liar ??? LMAORORFU~!!

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