The best, and worst, states for healt...

The best, and worst, states for health care

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Minneapolis, MN

#1 May 8, 2014
Last month, the Kaiser Family Foundation released a report they had created for health care stakeholders in the South, exploring specifically rates of uninsurance, but also outcomes of uninsurance—these are the states with the highest rates of diabetes, heart disease deaths, infant mortality and cancer deaths. That study is now reinforced by the Commonwealth Fund's Scorecard on State Health System Performance, which quantifies just how bad off southern states are.

They used a ranking system of "42 different metrics that gauged everything from insurance coverage to avoidable hospital stays to vaccination rates, at the systemic level; and from obesity rates to how many adults have lost six or more teeth, at the individual level." The states at the top: Minnesota comes in at Number 1, and Massachusetts, Vermont and New Hampshire are tied for second. At the bottom: Mississippi is worst, with Louisiana, Oklahoma and Arkansas not much better.

Demographically, Mississippi is already at a disadvantage. A black man in Mississippi has a shorter life expectancy than the average American did in 1960. The state has an obesity rate of 35 percent, one of the highest poverty rates in the country, and just one abortion clinic.
Healthcare in Mississippi and in other Southern states is unlikely to become more equitable anytime soon, however. As the study authors note, 16 of the states in the bottom half of the ranking have opted not to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act to adults making up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level.

In Mississippi, for example, "Medicaid eligibility for non-disabled adults is limited to parents with incomes below 29 percent of poverty, or about $6,800 a year for a family of four, and adults without dependent children remain ineligible regardless of their income," as the Kaiser Family Foundation points out.

Not to pick on the Mississippi Medicaid program too much—in Alabama, which is stingiest, that cut-off for Medicaid families is $3,221 a year and in Texas it's $3,737. Alabama is ranked 46 out of 51 by Commonwealth, and Texas is 44. Mississippi, however, has the largest percentage of adults who didn't seek medical care when they needed it because they couldn't afford it. There's plenty of misery to go around, however. In West Virginia, almost a quarter of the population has lost six or more teeth.(You can see how your state is doing with this interactive map.)

Like KFF, the Commonwealth Fund foresees a "widening rather than a narrowing of health outcomes and quality of care" among the states unless southern states follow the lead of the better-performing states to expand access to health care. That includes Medicaid expansion.
Sad Enlightenment

Beverly, MA

#2 May 8, 2014
Problem is that for some reason there are pockets of folks who just cannot grasp the idea of social cooperation. They cannot do math and understand that if everyone who can afford to buy insurance,
Buys it, that the premiums should eventually go down. They do not get that the whole idea of insurance is that it cannot work if only sick people jump in and buy and then turn around and get their services paid. It takes everyone participating and paying premiums so that those who need it can use the services. But the fundamental stingy attitude of uneducated math impaired people prevents them from buying their own insurance. They wait until they have a problem and show up at the emergency room expecting them to fix them up for a few bucks and be on their way. Then next thing you know they are skipping out on their bills and looking for someone to bail them out. That is also the thinking at the state level. The state just wants sick and poor folks to die quietly and disappear, while at the same time, they want to scream and shout about death panels for the elderly and show all kinds of concern for the unborn. But notice how when these unborn are born, well they are of the wrong socioeconomic status and then they are deemed the problem once more. It is a vicious cycle that the state creates and then complains about for one reason, they cannot comprehend basic mathematics. Must be something in the water.

Since: Apr 12

St. Paul, MN

#4 May 10, 2014
The sad truth is that for all their squawking about four lives lost in Benghazi, Republicans are REALLY only concerned about money and not human lives.
Beth

Minneapolis, MN

#5 May 10, 2014
Sad Enlightenment wrote:
Problem is that for some reason there are pockets of folks who just cannot grasp the idea of social cooperation. They cannot do math and understand that if everyone who can afford to buy insurance,
Buys it, that the premiums should eventually go down. They do not get that the whole idea of insurance is that it cannot work if only sick people jump in and buy and then turn around and get their services paid. It takes everyone participating and paying premiums so that those who need it can use the services. But the fundamental stingy attitude of uneducated math impaired people prevents them from buying their own insurance. They wait until they have a problem and show up at the emergency room expecting them to fix them up for a few bucks and be on their way. Then next thing you know they are skipping out on their bills and looking for someone to bail them out. That is also the thinking at the state level. The state just wants sick and poor folks to die quietly and disappear, while at the same time, they want to scream and shout about death panels for the elderly and show all kinds of concern for the unborn. But notice how when these unborn are born, well they are of the wrong socioeconomic status and then they are deemed the problem once more. It is a vicious cycle that the state creates and then complains about for one reason, they cannot comprehend basic mathematics. Must be something in the water.
Everyone who can work should work AND buy insurance. ACA should exempt anyone who can work.
good grief

La Follette, TN

#6 May 10, 2014
griddy wrote:
The sad truth is that for all their squawking about four lives lost in Benghazi, Republicans are REALLY only concerned about money and not human lives.
Stating the obvious...
good grief

La Follette, TN

#7 May 10, 2014
Beth wrote:
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Everyone who can work should work AND buy insurance. ACA should exempt anyone who can work.
ACA should would could....

Everyone that can work ... that most that can, CAN'T work... and, not for lack of trying their asses off.

Beth

Minneapolis, MN

#8 May 10, 2014
good grief wrote:
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ACA should would could....
Everyone that can work ... that most that can, CAN'T work... and, not for lack of trying their asses off.
In Minnesota right now every store has a "Now Hiring" sign posted. There is a shortage of workers and anyone on welfare should get a job and pay their own way. What would the taxes by IF everyone was working and paying taxes? How many Government workers could be layed off if there was 100% employment? GOAL #1 should be to operate Government with the lowest number of employees possible. Best Government is less Government.
good grief

La Follette, TN

#9 May 10, 2014
I live in a Republican state, and this particular part of this state (TN) no way in hell will they give up their 'right' to illegal aliens working for them... and reaching out to bring new business (that's legal) here? That can give a legit taxpayer a living wage? Apoplexy overrules so don't even THINK that will happen. TN is 49th in education, and this county 1st in drug abuse and domestic violence. Repub TN LIKES it that way. Guess why...
good grief

La Follette, TN

#10 May 10, 2014
Beth wrote:
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In Minnesota right now every store has a "Now Hiring" sign posted. There is a shortage of workers and anyone on welfare should get a job and pay their own way. What would the taxes by IF everyone was working and paying taxes? How many Government workers could be layed off if there was 100% employment? GOAL #1 should be to operate Government with the lowest number of employees possible. Best Government is less Government.
That's part of my point: I am STUCK here. I have been busting my ass to find work to make the money to save to get to MN. First of all because in MN there IS work, and because I need the medical resources that MN has to offer. I have a BS in business management, but also MS. I have been out of work for 7 yrs now (over qualified) Ran out of savings after 2 yrs, and have had to go onto state assistance and it's no where near enough to survive on. In TN, my qualifications to work do not qualify, therefore I do not exist to employers, but drug dealers and illegal mexicans THRIVE.

I used to be employed in Fla in State administration ... until Bush. Myself and 30,000+ other state employees DELETED... not laid off, not let go... DELETED. Try to find someone to contact to verify past employment... WE. DO/DID. NOT. EXIST.

Yep. "Bush" became a filthy word in MY home, and since "Republican" altogether.
good grief

La Follette, TN

#11 May 10, 2014
Beth wrote:
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In Minnesota right now every store has a "Now Hiring" sign posted. There is a shortage of workers and anyone on welfare should get a job and pay their own way. What would the taxes by IF everyone was working and paying taxes? How many Government workers could be layed off if there was 100% employment? GOAL #1 should be to operate Government with the lowest number of employees possible. Best Government is less Government.
Then help ME, and my daughter to get there..Oh wait... your republicanism won't allow you too. Not pleasant (understatement) in having MS.... but compared to having 'republicanism'? It's suddenly not nearly the burden it was. Thank you for the reminder.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#12 May 10, 2014
It's really good to hear from the intelligentsia class here on Topix for a welcoming change.
Beth

Minneapolis, MN

#13 May 10, 2014
good grief wrote:
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Then help ME, and my daughter to get there..Oh wait... your republicanism won't allow you too. Not pleasant (understatement) in having MS.... but compared to having 'republicanism'? It's suddenly not nearly the burden it was. Thank you for the reminder.
Without probing into your situation I would recommend you go online, you have internet access, and apply for every job you qualify for in Minnesota. There are employers that will pay for your flight to interview here. Otherwise get a number of interviews lined up and get here somehow, Minnesota offers cash grants for people to live on while looking for work here. I'm assuming your MS isn't in some worthless discipline like basket weaving. If you have marketable skills with a strong applicable education you can probably snag a job. The other area to apply to is in the oil fields of North Dakota, there are still shortages of workers there. Don't hesitate looking for Government work in Minnesota, the state is 100% controlled by Liberals and you would fit right in. Notice Minnesota is used by Obama as an example of good things, minimum wage, legal pot, women pay equity, liberal welfare/unemployment, environmental zealots, rampant gayism, mandatory bike usage, you name it we got it..

FACT: you can't be selective in what work you will perform, you need to swallow pride and take any job that is offered. When I got out of the military after Viet Nam there were NO jobs that I wanted, I worked in a loading dock nights while looking for a job I wanted and did eventually find what I wanted. But there is NO promise that the job you want will ever appear again, the Republicans Bill Clinton included, have been eliminating US jobs ever since NAFA, Clinton signed it into law, NOT a Republican. Oh it's more fun to blame republicans than admit the truth.
Capt Crunch

Sedona, AZ

#14 May 10, 2014
redeemer wrote:
It's really good to hear from the intelligentsia class here on Topix for a welcoming change.
I assume that you are talking about Beth, and not some whining liberal from a backward county in Tennesee, and I use the Ass sume pointedly.
oh poor you

Minneapolis, MN

#15 May 10, 2014
good grief wrote:
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Then help ME, and my daughter to get there..Oh wait... your republicanism won't allow you too. Not pleasant (understatement) in having MS.... but compared to having 'republicanism'? It's suddenly not nearly the burden it was. Thank you for the reminder.
Really??? LOL!!!! Now, somehow, those of us in MN, who are working our butts off trying to keep food on the table and a roof over our head are responsible for paying your way to find a job? And if we disagree with your position, we're immediately reduced to being evil, or worse yet, at least in your eyes, inflicted with "republicanism?"

Lefties are unbelievable. Everything is somebody else's responsibility or fault. Too funny. Based on your rants, and your lack of shame, you begged your lefty buddies for your free-ride to MN, and wore out your welcome, right? So, your lefty buddies aren't willing to foot the bill for your move to MN, either. Welcome to perpetual victimhood.
Beth

Minneapolis, MN

#16 May 10, 2014
The richest people in the WORLD use the Mayo Clinic in Rochester Minnesota for their health care. Soooo Minnesota would be the source of the BEST health care IN THE WORLD!!
oh poor you

Minneapolis, MN

#17 May 10, 2014
griddy wrote:
The sad truth is that for all their squawking about four lives lost in Benghazi, Republicans are REALLY only concerned about money and not human lives.
You know what? Screw you. If you and the rest of you lefty nut jobs had a brain in your head, you'd be BEGGING the repubs to carry on with this investigation. Since there's nothing to this, nothing is going to come of it except the dems laughing all the way to a mid-term, sweeping win, Right? You should be insisting the repubs soldier on, dig up every piece of dirt they can on Benghazi, because they're all going to come up empty handed in the end. Won't it be fun watching the repubs eat crow in November after their landslide loss?

That's not what we're hearing at all from the left. It's all deflection, baseless accusations, and feigned outrage. There's something to Benghazi. The left is scared, and you know it.
Susie

Minneapolis, MN

#18 May 10, 2014
good grief wrote:
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Then help ME, and my daughter to get there..Oh wait... your republicanism won't allow you too. Not pleasant (understatement) in having MS.... but compared to having 'republicanism'? It's suddenly not nearly the burden it was. Thank you for the reminder.
Why not write Govenor Dayton? I'm sure he'd be delighted to spring for the bus fare for another pair of swiveling, entitled, min d less robots to come to MN. I for one, am thrilled to have another parasite come here and suck even more of my tax dollar. Welcome!
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#19 May 10, 2014
Capt Crunch wrote:
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I assume that you are talking about Beth, and not some whining liberal from a backward county in Tennesee, and I use the Ass sume pointedly.
At least you didn't Ass sume that I would include you in that elite class,because you will always be waste and non-recyclable trash.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#20 May 10, 2014
Beth wrote:
The richest people in the WORLD use the Mayo Clinic in Rochester Minnesota for their health care. Soooo Minnesota would be the source of the BEST health care IN THE WORLD!!
We also have the number one rated veteran hospital in the u.s and three out of the four top healthcare providers corporations are headquartered in Minneapolis and Bloomington..
Mn Medical Record Abuse

Saint Paul, MN

#21 May 10, 2014
If you have gone to a clinic just once and they sell their practice, the new owners are also buying your medical records with it and there is nothing you can do about it. That means when you start getting all those annoying phone calls and letters, it is possible they are also selling your information to others. Sounds ironic to me, but it is true, yet so wrong. There really is NO confidentiality with medical records anymore. Seems selling & buying personal information is the new way.

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