Stand Down and Heros Died Who issued ...

Stand Down and Heros Died Who issued the Order

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Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jul 1, 2013
Betrayal in Benghazi

Phil "Hands" Handley Colonel, USAF (Ret.)

The combat code of the US Military is that we don't abandon our dead or wounded on the battlefield.

The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEALs who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty.

Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in an attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility.

The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don't just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing.

The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy.

Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local): When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him "Greg, we are under attack!" (his last words), he immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing "Emergency Response Plan."

At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to "stand down". By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various "Command and Control Agencies" and everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going on.

At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.

So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really "was not available" what about this:

When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.

By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours. While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.

The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.

Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, only a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.

Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to recover at Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport , only one-half hour away.

As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act" screw them. It is high time that our "leadership" get their priorities straight and put America's interests first.

The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with "72 virgins" and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless POS terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to "tug" on Superman's cape.

Ultimately it comes down to the question of who gave that order to stand down? Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the Untied States of America deserve leadership that really does "have their back" when the chips are down.

Seattle, WA

#2 Jul 1, 2013
"Absolutely," Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said. "Look we have to make priorities and
choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have
more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama,
in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people
into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic
times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize

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#3 Jul 1, 2013
Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama should be in jail for their failure to act with respect to Benghazi.

Jail them both and throw away the keys.

Seattle, WA

#4 Jul 1, 2013
I like rhetoric...

I see, it's all you have for 2016 ???

Should we all collect 4 door Cora-vairs, too ???
Justice for All

Grantsburg, WI

#5 Jul 1, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
I like rhetoric...
I see, it's all you have for 2016 ???
Should we all collect 4 door Cora-vairs, too ???

Stay on Topic or get the fauch out of here, we have had it with your Mental Illness!

Go work out you Disturbed Sexuality Issues over what Uncle Daddy did to your Pasty Gray Obese Self, someplace else......Now GIT!
Who said Stand Down

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Jul 1, 2013
IMHO, the Stand Down order came from BHO. He is a known micromanager and with the presidential election in the near future his handelers decided. If they acted it could spur an international incident which could fester into a mess at election time.

Stand Down!

So now BHO is elected and it's time for him to stand up..

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#7 Jul 1, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama should be in jail for their failure to act with respect to Benghazi.
Jail them both and throw away the keys.
And the government wonders why there whistle blowers amongst their ranks.

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