The train wreck called ObamaCare

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I see we have a lefty robo judge. Happened about the same time Slew showed up again. hahahaha

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Liberal Liars wrote:
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Obamacare is wonderful for you. But not for your Congressman, or your union boss, or for the big company CEO's who contribute to Obama's pet causes. Just keep telling yourself Obamacare is wonderful for you.
The preceding was a paid political statement by United Health Group through it's political subsidiary "Right Wing Morons for Maintaining Big Insurance's Status Quo Healthcare Monopoly"
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-calvin- wrote:
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The preceding was a paid political statement by United Health Group through it's political subsidiary "Right Wing Morons for Maintaining Big Insurance's Status Quo Healthcare Monopoly"
Actually, more like the average Joe who will have to foot the bill for all of the massive Obamacare extra costs. Like I said, the insurance companies have been largely quiet. Why would that be?

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LIbEralS wrote:
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Actually, more like the average Joe who will have to foot the bill for all of the massive Obamacare extra costs. Like I said, the insurance companies have been largely quiet. Why would that be?
Let's try TRUE or FALSE questions, you at least have a 50/50 chance there:

1. United Healthcare lobbied for Obamacare?

TRUE or FALSE

2. Off spring up 26 Years old should be eligible for coverage on their parents plan.

TRUE or FALSE

3. Pre-existing conditions should not prohibit finding healthcare

TRUE or FALSE

4. All individuals should bear some responsibility for their healthcare

TRUE or FALSE

Answer the questions or tell us your plan.

Cue the crickets here...
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1 not sure

2 health INSURANCE is not a right

3 they aren't in some cases, even prior to Obamacare

4 just how is Obamacare doing this?
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THIS is how bad the situation is:

For the first time in polling data that spans nearly two decades, voters prefer Republicans in dealing with health care policy, 40 percent to 39 percent.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2...
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EVEN Buffet has turned his back on OBAMCARE.
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Buffett insists that without changes to Obamacare "average citizens will suffer."
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"Healthcare costs in the United States are like a tapeworm eating at our economic body."
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Those words come from famed investor Warren Buffett, who said he would scrap Obamacare and start all over.

"We have a health system that, in terms of costs, is really out of control," he added. "And if you take this line and you project what has been happening into the future, we will get less and less competitive. So we need something else."

Buffett insists that without changes to Obamacare average citizens will suffer.

"What we have now is untenable over time," said Buffett, an early supporter of President Obama. "That kind of a cost compared to the rest of the world is really like a tapeworm eating, you know, at our economic body."

Buffett does not believe that providing insurance for everyone is the first step to take in correcting our nation's healthcare system.

"Attack the costs first, and then worry about expanding coverage," he said. "I would much rather see another plan that really attacks costs. And I think that's what the American public wants to see. I mean, the American public is not behind this bill."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/keyword/Warren-...
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McDonald’s and Dunkin Donuts Franchise owners come to Washington to plead for ObamaCare relief

Read more: http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/322583...
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Another day, ANOTHER bunch of tragic news because of Obamacare:

Layoffs coming to Cleveland Clinic in plan to reduce budget by $330 million.

"To prepare for healthcare reform, Cleveland Clinic is transforming the way care is delivered to patients. Over the past several years, we have had an ongoing focus on driving efficiencies, lowering costs, reducing duplication in services and enhancing quality to make healthcare affordable to patients. "

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/314788/33/Cl...

Vanderbilt University Medical Center cutting several hundred more jobs.

While Vanderbilt’s health care operations have produced positive operating results in each of the last five fiscal years, the report says,“future changes in the health care market and regulations could adversely affect future financial results of operations.”

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130918/BU...
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ObamaBlaster wrote:
Unions and big companies will get exempted from ObamaCare.
The non-workers on welfare and food stamps will get exempted from ObamaCare.
That leaves the poor sucker in a small business who will get the proverbial SHAFT by ObamCare.
Like cooking a frog, they slowly turn up the heat until you are dead/cooked. No complaining then. Obama will be retired living on a beach in Hawaii along with the other rich Libertards.
It's all about picking winners and losers.
Hope to see Cruz & Lee in 2016
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-calvin- wrote:
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being raped in prison.
Typical lefty...

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LIbEralS wrote:
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Typical lefty...
A guy can dream can't he.

After all, I offer the picture of my girlfriend, shown at left, just for all my right wing moron friends to fulfill their fantasies...

And if she should choke on something once she reaches her soon to be achieved retirement, Obamacare will help her spit it out and get back on her feet.
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How conveniently they forget.
-calvin- wrote:
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A guy can dream can't he.
After all, I offer the picture of my girlfriend, shown at left, just for all my right wing moron friends to fulfill their fantasies...
And if she should choke on something once she reaches her soon to be achieved retirement, Obamacare will help her spit it out and get back on her feet.
Bachmann won't have to 'choke down' Obamacare, dimwit. She wins in the Obama caste system. A health care debacle that only those without favor or political means, will have to 'choke down'.

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Slim D wrote:
How conveniently they forget.
<quoted text>Bachmann won't have to 'choke down' Obamacare, dimwit. She wins in the Obama caste system. A health care debacle that only those without favor or political means, will have to 'choke down'.
Yes, the current system, brought to you by United Health and their ilk, is as pure as the driven snow, fair to all, regardless of means.

Big HMOs destroyed a near perfect healthcare system from the 1950s: Hospitals operated by local non-profits and communities, doctors acting as small local business men. Now the big HMOs control both. Drive by 62 and Shady Oak road and see the new medical overhead campus of United Health. Obamacare may be far from perfect; but, the status quo needed to change. And that is why Obamacare should be amended and improved by compromise rather than just giving it all back to the HMOs.

And how can we find this illusive compromise:

EASY, YOU EFFING RIGHT WING MORONS INVENTED OBAMACARE IN THE FIRST PLACE THROUGH YOUR THINK TANK, THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION, AND TESTED IT IN MA COURTESY OF YOUR MAN MITT.

WHY CAN'T YOU A HOLES GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS: YOU INVENTED OBAMACARE, ITS YOUR BABY, OBAMA JUST STOLE YOUR IDEA.

DECLARE VICTORY AND SHUT THE EFF UP.
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-calvin- wrote:
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Yes, the current system, brought to you by United Health and their ilk, is as pure as the driven snow, fair to all, regardless of means.
Big HMOs destroyed a near perfect healthcare system from the 1950s: Hospitals operated by local non-profits and communities, doctors acting as small local business men. Now the big HMOs control both. Drive by 62 and Shady Oak road and see the new medical overhead campus of United Health. Obamacare may be far from perfect; but, the status quo needed to change. And that is why Obamacare should be amended and improved by compromise rather than just giving it all back to the HMOs.
And how can we find this illusive compromise:
EASY, YOU EFFING RIGHT WING MORONS INVENTED OBAMACARE IN THE FIRST PLACE THROUGH YOUR THINK TANK, THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION, AND TESTED IT IN MA COURTESY OF YOUR MAN MITT.
WHY CAN'T YOU A HOLES GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS: YOU INVENTED OBAMACARE, ITS YOUR BABY, OBAMA JUST STOLE YOUR IDEA.
DECLARE VICTORY AND SHUT THE EFF UP.
I don't trust the government to manage health care. Government (national) should stick to what they know: national defense and infrastructure - where economies of scale actually have a function. They should also set standards for pollution control and the ability to enforce these standards.

The problem with managing health care on a national level is the problem big government always has: No accountability - baked in by layers of bureaucracy that ensures no punishment/accountability for waste, fraud and inefficiencies (witness the Benghazi disaster), inefficiencies that would take down a private enterprise.

Healthcare needs competition to be successful, government control eliminates that.

The positives Obamacare offers (dependent coverage up to 26, guaranteed coverage for existing conditions, and no lifetime limit) can be managed by a much smaller program as an addendum to existing systems. A superfund to run it, that can be monitored and managed.

Just look at what has happened to food stamps - you don't even have to be looking for work or exchanging work to qualify. And there's many, many more like this with the same results.

Obama thinks government control is the answer and is not interested acknowledging all the problems this creates.

Big government needs to STAY OUT of health care!

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<quoted text>I don't trust the government to manage health care. Government (national) should stick to what they know: national defense and infrastructure - where economies of scale actually have a function. They should also set standards for pollution control and the ability to enforce these standards.
The problem with managing health care on a national level is the problem big government always has: No accountability - baked in by layers of bureaucracy that ensures no punishment/accountability for waste, fraud and inefficiencies (witness the Benghazi disaster), inefficiencies that would take down a private enterprise.
Healthcare needs competition to be successful, government control eliminates that.
The positives Obamacare offers (dependent coverage up to 26, guaranteed coverage for existing conditions, and no lifetime limit) can be managed by a much smaller program as an addendum to existing systems. A superfund to run it, that can be monitored and managed.
Just look at what has happened to food stamps - you don't even have to be looking for work or exchanging work to qualify. And there's many, many more like this with the same results.
Obama thinks government control is the answer and is not interested acknowledging all the problems this creates.
Big government needs to STAY OUT of health care!
Yet you trust big HMOs? The same HMOs that have put us into this mess in the first place?

Learn to accept the simple truth that we are getting screwed on healthcare in this country: we pay more than anyone in the developed world and get results that are about average in the developed world.

Look at the auto industry: because there truly can be global competition: the features and benefits of a hot new car from Germany can be copied and enhanced in subsequent cars from the US and Japan. That does not happen in healthcare. Countries are competitively isolated from one another: the market place does not force competition like it does in cars, phones and almost any other consumer product. Instead each nation's healthcare infra structure does it's own thing and in this country it is giant HMOs maximizing their profits with no motive or rationale to change.

Unless they are forced to. And that is why the status quo must change and Obamacare is a first step in forcing that change. Obamacare opponents should be leveraging their influence to make substantive changes, instead it is repeal, repeal, repeal. And no small factor in those repeal efforts is the lobbying and campaign dollar windfall that are to be collected by the repeal-o-nazis.

So; if you are getting paid for your repeal Obamacare efforts good for you, if you are not, that would make you a SUCKER.
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Ohio clinic touted by Obama slashes budget due to ObamaCare

July 23, 2009: President Obama greets people on the tarmac of Cleveland Airport upon his arrival for a town hall event on health care reform and to visit the Cleveland Clinic.reuters


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An Ohio clinic that was touted by Obama while he was speaking on health care reform is now blaming ObamaCare after it was forced to cut $330 million from its budget.


Fox 8 reports the Cleveland Clinic, which is the largest employer in Northeast Ohio with about 39,000 workers in the region, announced the cuts to its 2014 budget at a meeting Wednesday.

A spokeswoman for the clinic tells Fox News the clinic is being forced to cut back to prepare for increased costs and decreased revenue under the health care reform law.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/19/oh...
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Look for this to now become the norm.

Home Depot Drops Big Obamacare Surprise on 20,000 Employees:

(Reuters)– Home Depot Inc is shifting medical coverage for part-time workers to new public marketplace exchanges ahead of new benefits requirements under the U.S. Affordable Care Act, a spokesman said on Thursday.

The world’s largest home improvement retail chain announced its move shortly after a similar announcement from Trader Joe’s Co, a popular privately held grocery chain.
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-calvin- wrote:
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Ok, we can see you are the master of cut and post, even when the post is pure B S. Can you use a few of your own words? Can you form complete sentences? Did you miss this:
YOU EFFING RIGHT WING MORONS INVENTED OBAMACARE IN THE FIRST PLACE THROUGH YOUR THINK TANK, THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION, AND TESTED IT IN MA COURTESY OF YOUR MAN MITT.
WHY CAN'T YOU A HOLES GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS: YOU INVENTED OBAMACARE, ITS YOUR BABY, OBAMA JUST STOLE YOUR IDEA.
DECLARE VICTORY AND SHUT THE EFF UP.
Why was it a good idea when you thought it up and the greatest disaster to ever befall us now? Maybe just one post using your own words before more of your relentless cut and post.
I think it must be Racism Cal!
(Is that a Black Weiner in the picture you use of Mrs Bachman, for your avatar?......We can assume that you use this image to relieve yourself based on the lust you feel for her)

It could not be that you are repeating the same BS Talking Points that you Sheeple Bleat consistently.

So, we are going on 6 years out from G Bush, now you Parrots are modifying your Bleats as requested.

Now it is "Right Wingers" (again) as we get ready for the Lesbian-Ms-Hillary-Rodam-Clint on to ascend the mantle of Demokrat Victimhood. She saw the Vast Right wing Conspiracy 20 years ago.....You are as predicable as the seasons. But you think that you are enlightened........Haahhehoohh ahahehiihohoh!
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Awful Tooth wrote:
Poor con,
Parents dead, monikers dying, and you're blathering & lying.
Tell us what we CAIN do to ease your chest pains, WE really care... LMAOROTFU~!
After all, WE invested in your welfare, medical coverage, & DELICIOUS PhillipKs VodKa, right ???
How many MORON-IKERS today, toady twit ??
Lemme go Psycho Slewblomkin here.

REPORTED.......Hahehehohoihhio oo!

(Topix will find you in Kent, Washington too)

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