Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#63 Mar 24, 2013
Keep pretending good managers have poorly negotiated work rules and Hostess is the only job in town....

It's your 'ability", to your max....

Actually, NOT PAYING CONTRACTUAL MONIES OWED, is SURE ENCOURAGING !!! Self inflicted money stolen ?? Sure, whatever..... rhetoric spewing L-O-S-E-R-~! Be sure and send my check....

I guess, making 40% per transaction is dumb, to a broke, childish, troll....
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#64 Mar 24, 2013
In "Blather World", only the union negotiates work rules, which explains why ...

Over the last 30 years, CEO pay grew 127 times faster than worker pay, according to a July report.

We MUST love overpaid suits, right ???? LMAOROFU~!
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#65 Mar 25, 2013
Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#66 Mar 25, 2013
They'd given enough to a company that was stealing from them... No matter how DUMBLY you define it...
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#67 Mar 25, 2013
non-starter wrote:
Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
You must like being STUPID !!
re-organizational
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#68 Mar 25, 2013
Corrected incorrectly by a moron again.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reo...

re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(ˌ)rē-& #716;ȯr-gə- nə-ˈz&#2 57;-shən,-ˌo ̇rg-nə-\

Definition of REORGANIZATION

: the act or process of reorganizing : the state of being reorganized; especially: the financial reconstruction of a business concern

— re·or·ga·ni·za·tion·al adjective

See reorganization defined for kids »

Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?

Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#69 Mar 25, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>You must like being STUPID !!
re-organizational
Corrected incorrectly by a moron again. I suppose now you will have to go out and find some website up to back up your incorrect spelling correction.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reo ...

re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(&#716;)r&#275;-& #716;o&#775;r-g&#601;- n&#601;-&#712;z&#2 57;-sh&#601;n,-&#716;o &#775;rg-n&#601;-\

Definition of REORGANIZATION

: the act or process of reorganizing : the state of being reorganized; especially: the financial reconstruction of a business concern

— re·or·ga·ni·za·tion·al adjective

See reorganization defined for kids »

Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?

Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#70 Mar 25, 2013
non-starter wrote:
Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?
Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
Thereby costing around 18,000 people their livelihoods. Most of whom were not even members of that union. Good thing unions are for people. Or at least the ones who fund their business.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#71 Mar 25, 2013
re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(&#716;)r&#275;-& #716;o&#775;r-g&#601;- n&#601;-&#712;z&#2 57;-sh&#601;n,-&#716;o &#775;rg-n&#601;-\

PERFECT !!

As for livelihood, when they short your pay, it's time to move on..unless you're a wing nut moron....
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#72 Mar 25, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(&#716;)r&#275;-& #716;o&#775;r-g&#601;- n&#601;-&#712;z&#2 57;-sh&#601;n,-&#716;o &#775;rg-n&#601;-\
PERFECT !!
As for livelihood, when they short your pay, it's time to move on..unless you're a wing nut moron....
Corrected incorrectly by a moron again. I suppose now you will have to go out and find some website up to back up your incorrect spelling correction.

Next time you correct someone's spelling, slewchebag, make sure you have a clue yourself first.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reo ...

re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \Definition of REORGANIZATION

: the act or process of reorganizing : the state of being reorganized; especially: the financial reconstruction of a business concern

— re·or·ga·ni·za·tion·al adjective

See reorganization defined for kids »

Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?

You think next time the bakers' union is "shorted" in contributions to their pension plan, they can vote for the contract and then move on? Individually if the union employees are such strong work candidates, instead of putting 14,000 other employees out of work, maybe they could vote to keep the company going, then leave? I forgot, unions aren't there for the people they represent, they are for the union beauracracy.

Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#73 Mar 25, 2013
re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(&#716;)r&#275;-& #716;o&#775;r-g&#601;- n&#601;-&#712;z&#2 57;-sh&#601;n,-&#716;o &#775;rg-n&#601;-\

PERFECT !!

As for livelihood, when they short your pay, it's time to move on..unless you're a wing nut moron....

IMMERSION 1 Year Change:+94.15%

Can any of you "smart" folks, tell me if this is good ??? LMAOROTFU~!

Is it as "good" as PhillipKs VodKa and LOSERS telling stories, like you need ??? LMAOROTFU~!
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#74 Mar 25, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>Corrected incorrectly by a moron again.

re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(&#716;)r&#275;-& #716;o&#775;r-g&#601;- n&#601;-&#712;z&#2 57;-sh&#601;n,-&#716;o &#775;rg-n&#601;-\
PERFECT !!
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#75 Mar 25, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>PERFECT !!
Corrected incorrectly by a moron again. I suppose now you will have to go out and find some website up to back up your incorrect spelling correction.

Next time you correct someone's spelling, slewchebag, make sure you have a clue yourself first.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reo ...

re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \Definition of REORGANIZATION

: the act or process of reorganizing : the state of being reorganized; especially: the financial reconstruction of a business concern

— re·or·ga·ni·za·tion·al adjective

See reorganization defined for kids »

Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?

You think next time the bakers' union is "shorted" in contributions to their pension plan, they can vote for the contract and then move on? Individually if the union employees are such strong work candidates, instead of putting 14,000 other employees out of work, maybe they could vote to keep the company going, then leave? I forgot, unions aren't there for the people they represent, they are for the union beauracracy.

Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#76 Mar 25, 2013
Thereby costing around 18,000 people their livelihoods. Most of whom were not even members of that union. Good thing unions are for people. Or at least the ones who fund their business.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#77 Mar 25, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text> re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(&#716;)r&#275;-& #716;o&#775;r-g&#601;- n&#601;-&#712;z&#2 57;-sh&#601;n,-&#716;o &#775;rg-n&#601;-\
PERFECT !!

As for livelihood, when they short your pay, it's time to move on..unless you're a wing nut moron....

IMMERSION 1 Year Change:+94.15%

Can any of you "smart" folks, tell me if this is good ??? LMAOROTFU~!

Is it as "good" as PhillipKs VodKa and LOSERS telling stories, like you need ??? LMAOROTFU~!
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#78 Mar 25, 2013
Come on, why should ANY American worker work without the pay agreed to.... being PAID ????

UNION WORKERS = too smart to work without pay !!!

The rest of you = know what you're worth....

How many paychecks did management get shorted, again ???
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#79 Mar 25, 2013
non-starter wrote:
Corrected incorrectly by a moron again.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reo...
re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \(&#716;)r&#275;-& #716;o&#775;r-g&#601;- n&#601;-&#712;z&#2 57;-sh&#601;n,-&#716;o &#775;rg-n&#601;-\
Definition of REORGANIZATION
: the act or process of reorganizing : the state of being reorganized; especially: the financial reconstruction of a business concern
— re·or·ga·ni·za·tion·al adjective
See reorganization defined for kids »
Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?
Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
I'd tell you, you looked up a different word, but you're impossible to teach. As for your opinion, work without pay, see how happy you are, when managers STEAL FROM YOU...
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#80 Mar 25, 2013


Let's get a few things clear. Hostess didn't fail for any of the reasons you've been fed. It didn't fail because Americans demanded more healthful food than its Twinkies and Ho-Hos snack cakes. It didn't fail because its unions wanted it to die.

It failed because the people that ran it had no idea what they were doing. Every other excuse is just an attempt by the guilty to blame someone else.


Take the notion that Hostess was out of step with America's healthful-food craze. You'd almost think that Hostess failed because it didn't convert its product line into one based on green vegetables. Yet you only have to amble down the cookie aisle at your supermarket or stroll past the Cinnabon kiosk at the airport to know that there are still handsome profits to be made from the sale of highly refined sugary garbage.

It's true that the company had done almost nothing in the last 10 years to modernize or expand its offerings. But as any of the millions of Americans who have succumbed to Twinkie cravings can attest, there has always been something about their greasy denseness and peculiar aftertaste that place them high among the ranks of foodstuffs that can be perfectly satisfying without actually being any good.

Hostess management's efforts to blame union intransigence for the company's collapse persisted right through to the Thanksgiving eve press release announcing Hostess' liquidation, when it cited a nationwide strike by bakery workers that "crippled its operations."

That overlooks the years of union givebacks and management bad faith. Example: Just before declaring bankruptcy for the second time in eight years Jan. 11, Hostess trebled the compensation of then-Chief Executive Brian Driscoll and raised other executives' pay up to twofold. At the same time, the company was demanding lower wages from workers and stiffing employee pension funds of $8 million a month in payment obligations.

Hostess management hasn't been able entirely to erase the paper trail pointing to its own derelictions. Consider a 163-page affidavit filed as part of the second bankruptcy petition.

There Driscoll outlined a "Turnaround Plan" to get the firm back on its feet. The steps included closing outmoded plants and improving the efficiency of those that remain; upgrading the company's "aging vehicle fleet" and merging its distribution warehouses for efficiency; installing software at the warehouses to allow it to track inventory; and closing unprofitable retail stores. It also proposed to restore its advertising budget and establish an R&D program to develop new products to "maintain existing customers and attract new ones."

None of these steps, Driscoll attested, required consultation with the unions. That raises the following question: You mean to tell me that as of January 2012, Hostess still hadn't gotten around to any of this?

The company had known for a decade or more that its market was changing, but had done nothing to modernize its product line or distribution system. Its trucks were breaking down. It was keeping unprofitable stores open and having trouble figuring out how to move inventory to customers and when. It had cut back advertising and marketing to the point where it was barely communicating with customers. It had gotten hundreds of millions of dollars in concessions from its unions, and spent none of it on these essential improvements.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#81 Mar 26, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Let's get a few things clear. Hostess didn't fail for any of the reasons you've been fed. It didn't fail because Americans demanded more healthful food than its Twinkies and Ho-Hos snack cakes. It didn't fail because its unions wanted it to die.
It failed because the people that ran it had no idea what they were doing. Every other excuse is just an attempt by the guilty to blame someone else.
Take the notion that Hostess was out of step with America's healthful-food craze. You'd almost think that Hostess failed because it didn't convert its product line into one based on green vegetables. Yet you only have to amble down the cookie aisle at your supermarket or stroll past the Cinnabon kiosk at the airport to know that there are still handsome profits to be made from the sale of highly refined sugary garbage.

Hostess management hasn't been able entirely to erase the paper trail pointing to its own derelictions. Consider a 163-page affidavit filed as part of the second bankruptcy petition.
There Driscoll outlined a "Turnaround Plan" to get the firm back on its feet. The steps included closing outmoded plants and improving the efficiency of those that remain; upgrading the company's "aging vehicle fleet" and merging its distribution warehouses for efficiency; installing software at the warehouses to allow it to track inventory; and closing unprofitable retail stores. It also proposed to restore its advertising budget and establish an R&D program to develop new products to "maintain existing customers and attract new ones."
None of these steps, Driscoll attested, required consultation with the unions. That raises the following question: You mean to tell me that as of January 2012, Hostess still hadn't gotten around to any of this?
The company had known for a decade or more that its market was changing, but had done nothing to modernize its product line or distribution system. Its trucks were breaking down. It was keeping unprofitable stores open and having trouble figuring out how to move inventory to customers and when. It had cut back advertising and marketing to the point where it was barely communicating with customers. It had gotten hundreds of millions of dollars in concessions from its unions, and spent none of it on these essential improvements.
Corrected incorrectly by a moron again. I suppose now you will have to go out and find some website up to back up your incorrect spelling correction.

Next time you correct someone's spelling, slewchebag, make sure you have a clue yourself first.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reo ...

re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \Definition of REORGANIZATION

: the act or process of reorganizing : the state of being reorganized; especially: the financial reconstruction of a business concern

— re·or·ga·ni·za·tion·al adjective

See reorganization defined for kids »

Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?

You think next time the bakers' union is "shorted" in contributions to their pension plan, they can vote for the contract and then move on? Individually if the union employees are such strong work candidates, instead of putting 14,000 other employees out of work, maybe they could vote to keep the company going, then leave? I forgot, unions aren't there for the people they represent, they are for the union beauracracy.

Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#83 Mar 26, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>Beauracracy ???
First of all it's Bureaucracy, secondly REORGANIZATION & RE-ORGANIZATIONAL aren't the same word, moron !!!
What a complete dumb-ass !!!
Corrected incorrectly by a moron again. I suppose now you will have to go out and find some website up to back up your incorrect spelling correction.

Next time you correct someone's spelling, slewchebag, make sure you have a clue yourself first.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reo ...

re·or·ga·ni·za·tion
noun \Definition of REORGANIZATION

: the act or process of reorganizing : the state of being reorganized; especially: the financial reconstruction of a business concern

********** re·or·ga·ni·za·tion·al adjective *******Slewche, read here

See reorganization defined for kids »

Anything to avoid the actual substance of a post, right slewsie?

You think next time the bakers' union is "shorted" in contributions to their pension plan, they can vote for the contract and then move on? Individually if the union employees are such strong work candidates, instead of putting 14,000 other employees out of work, maybe they could vote to keep the company going, then leave? I forgot, unions aren't there for the people they represent, they are for the union bureaucracy.

Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.

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