Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#43 Mar 22, 2013
Funny, they violated a contract to fund worker's pensions and provide for their old age & future and you give overpaid management a complete pass ?? Yep, you're still a complete troll ASS !!

The raise for the CEO was one of many for management, if you're playing stupid, good "job".
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#44 Mar 22, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Funny, they violated a contract to fund worker's pensions and provide for their old age & future and you give overpaid management a complete pass ?? Yep, you're still a complete troll ASS !!
The raise for the CEO was one of many for management, if you're playing stupid, good "job".
Asked and answered. Next.

You mean a 300% CEO raise that was later backed down? Hostess lost $341 million in 2011, CEO pay was $1.5 million of that. They probably should have paid more and gotten a better CEO. Maybe then they would still be in business. Your percentages in a vacuum are pretty poor arguments.

Next question?
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#45 Mar 22, 2013
The situation isn't specific to Hostess. Over the last 30 years, CEO pay grew 127 times faster than worker pay, according to a July report.

Gee, seems like overpaying all CEO types would have prevented this economy, according to moron idiots ....
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#46 Mar 22, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>Asked and answered. Next.
You mean a 300% CEO raise that was later backed down? Hostess lost $341 million in 2011, CEO pay was $1.5 million of that. They probably should have paid more and gotten a better CEO. Maybe then they would still be in business. Your percentages in a vacuum are pretty poor arguments.
Next question?
Actually, you've answered nothing. Try to explain why management took wages from workers to fund their pensions and spent it....

Another blather will do, right.... American worker hater ???
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#47 Mar 22, 2013
Looks to me like Hostess' unions stole their workers livelihoods and their pensions with inefficient work rules, and turning down the bankruptcy court's offer.

Nice work rules, inefficient, bloated, and outdated.

Hostess' union rules:
No truck could carry both bread and snacks even when going to the same location
Drivers were not permitted to load their own trucks
Workers who loaded bread were not allowed to also load snacks
Bringing products from back rooms to shelves required another set of union employees
Multi-Employer pension obligations made Hostess liable for other, previously bankrupted, retirement plan contributions from employees that never worked for Hostess at all
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#48 Mar 22, 2013
Hostess union rules ???

Surely, you mean agreed contractual rules ??? You "think" unions make up rules by THEMSELVES ???

Geez, I knew you're DUMB, but this is RIDICULOUS !!!!

The situation isn't specific to Hostess. Over the last 30 years, CEO pay grew 127 times faster than worker pay, according to a July report.

Gee, seems like overpaying all CEO types would have prevented this economy, according to moron idiots ....
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#49 Mar 22, 2013
non-starter wrote:
Looks to me like Hostess' unions stole their workers livelihoods and their pensions with inefficient work rules, and turning down the bankruptcy court's offer.
Nice work rules, inefficient, bloated, and outdated.
Hostess' union rules:
No truck could carry both bread and snacks even when going to the same location
Drivers were not permitted to load their own trucks
Workers who loaded bread were not allowed to also load snacks
Bringing products from back rooms to shelves required another set of union employees
Multi-Employer pension obligations made Hostess liable for other, previously bankrupted, retirement plan contributions from employees that never worked for Hostess at all
What kinda idiot management agreed to these rules ?? Oh right, the useless kind, that DECIDED ON THEM....
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#50 Mar 22, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>What kinda idiot management agreed to these rules ?? Oh right, the useless kind, that DECIDED ON THEM....
Next you will try to tell us the management encouraged the union to turn down the contract in bankruptcy. Nice victim mentality the unions and their minions have, can't even see their own self-inflicted wounds.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#51 Mar 22, 2013
Next I will tell you, why work when they're stealing pension funds....

Funny, they violated a contract to fund worker's pensions and provide for their old age & future and you give overpaid management a complete pass ?? Yep, you're still a complete troll ASS !!

The raise for the CEO was one of many for management, if you're playing stupid, good "job".
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#52 Mar 22, 2013
Come on, why should ANY American worker work without the pay agreed to.... being PAID ????

How many paychecks did management get shorted, again ???
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#53 Mar 22, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Come on, why should ANY American worker work without the pay agreed to.... being PAID ????
How many paychecks did management get shorted, again ???
Please tell us all how many paychecks the union was shorted. Oh, that is right, you are making irrelevant comparisons again, something you seem to have quite the penchant for.

Did the bakers' union kill off the reorganizational bankruptcy or not? The answer is yes, the bakers' union forced the company into liquidation instead of reorganization. Self inflicted wounds by the union again.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#54 Mar 22, 2013
Hostess Brands acknowledged for the first time in a news report Monday that the company diverted workers' pension money for other company uses.

The bankrupt baker told The Wall Street Journal that money taken out of workers' paychecks, intended for their retirement funds, was used for company operations instead. Hostess, which was under different management at the time the diversions began in August 2011, said it does not know how much money it took.

So, ignorance as YOUR EXCUSE ?? GOOD ONE !!!

Send me a blank check, I'll put a number on it, OK ???
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#55 Mar 22, 2013
Come on, why should ANY American worker work without the pay agreed to.... being PAID ????

How many paychecks did management get shorted, again ???
scooby slew

Saint Paul, MN

#56 Mar 22, 2013
How many paychecks have those union workers gotten lately after shutting the company down again?
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#57 Mar 22, 2013
For you to have a point, Hostess would be the only job in the world, right small troll ?

Hostess Brands acknowledged for the first time in a news report Monday that the company diverted workers' pension money for other company uses.

The bankrupt baker told The Wall Street Journal that money taken out of workers' paychecks, intended for their retirement funds, was used for company operations instead. Hostess, which was under different management at the time the diversions began in August 2011, said it does not know how much money it took.

So, ignorance as YOUR EXCUSE ?? GOOD ONE !!!

Send me a blank check, I'll put a number on it, OK ???

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Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#58 Mar 22, 2013
Funny, you pretending a workers can't rehire somewhere decent, when the managers didn't pay them ???
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#59 Mar 22, 2013
Hostess Brands acknowledged for the first time in a news report Monday that the company diverted workers' pension money for other company uses.

The bankrupt baker told The Wall Street Journal that money taken out of workers' paychecks, intended for their retirement funds, was used for company operations instead. Hostess, which was under different management at the time the diversions began in August 2011, said it does not know how much money it took.

So, ignorance as YOUR EXCUSE ?? GOOD ONE !!!

Send me a blank check, I'll put a number on it, OK ???
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#60 Mar 22, 2013
UNION WORKERS = too smart to work without pay !!!

The rest of you = know what you're worth....

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Seattle, WA

#61 Mar 23, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>Next you will try to tell us the management encouraged the union to turn down the contract in bankruptcy. Nice victim mentality the unions and their minions have, can't even see their own self-inflicted wounds.
Actually, NOT PAYING CONTRACTUAL MONIES OWED, is SURE ENCOURAGING !!! Self inflicted money stolen ?? Sure, whatever..... rhetoric spewing L-O-S-E-R-~! Be sure and send my check....
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#62 Mar 24, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, NOT PAYING CONTRACTUAL MONIES OWED, is SURE ENCOURAGING !!! Self inflicted money stolen ?? Sure, whatever..... rhetoric spewing L-O-S-E-R-~! Be sure and send my check....
Self inflicted company closure, from poorly negotiated work rules to turning down the only contract that would have kept them employed in bankruptcy.

I guess if you are dumb enough to work for a union, those things make sense.

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